Thai free health service

[dallen52]

I have a question that needs farang comments. 

The gold card or 30 baht health system. 

 

My friends girl is saying that she has to pay 350 baht to get on the scheme and 30 baht for each visit afterwards. 

 

I'm pretty sure the scheme is free. 

Just show the thai ID card. 

 

I know it's only 350 baht.

But pretty sure she's giving him a tug.

She just had hospital dental care and it was 1600 each root canal. 

So she says. 

(Farang pays)

 

I recently read that dental health is now included in the health care. 

 

Appreciate your feedback...

 

 

[Raindancer]

There is no 350 baht charge to initially join the scheme.

 

But you do indeed pay 30 baht for each hospital visit to a govt hospital.

 

As for dental cover, that would need to be clarified at the point of a dental visit

 

The monthly  circa 430 baht scheme per month for working people, covers all medical bills in a govt hospital, but is limited to 900 baht per year.

 

So, it would be difficult to imagine that the 30 baht scheme has much if any, dental cover.

 

But I stand to be corrected on the final paragraph.

 

If your friend thinks that the 1600 baht each root canal, is disingenuous, all he has to do is check the bill that he paid for.

 

Edited June 30 by Raindancer
Additional comments

[Sheryl]

I do not know exact details but dental cover under the 30 haht scheme is quite limited.

 

As poster above noted, there is no fee to "join" the scheme. Actually any Thai citizen not covered under either of the 2 SS systems is automatically covered under the scheme.

 

There is a small fee (usually 50 baht) the very first time one registers at a hospital to get a patient number etc, not sure if the 30 baht scheme covers that or not, but it is only 50 baht. 

 

Root canals usually cost much more than 1,600 baht  even if that was per treatment (not pre root canal...a single root canal can entails 2 - 5 separate sessions).  So certainly not excessive.

 

The larger issue is if your friend is happy with a relationship in which he is expected to (and can afford to) financially support his GF (pretty much the norm here for farang-thai pairings). That's for him to decide. 

 

 

 

 

[digbeth]

even for social security (Thai with jobs) the dental cover is limited, approved treatments are: cleaning, tooth filling, tooth extraction, and wisdom tooth extraction/surgery and limited to 900.-baht per year

 

I'd think for the universal /30 baht scheme it'd be a lot less 

[Raindancer]

Here is an extract from the 30 baht scheme:

 

The types of services that can be sought include free over-the-counter drugs for 16 basic ailments at contracted pharmacies; 32 basic medical treatments at contracted medical clinics such as wound dressing and prescribed injections; and 22 types of prescribed laboratory tests.

It also covers physical rehabilitation services as prescribed by a doctor, basic dental care services, medical examinations and associated treatments that do not require hospital admission, and Thai traditional medical therapies such as massage and herbal steam.

[Pouatchee]

2 hours ago, Raindancer said:

The monthly  circa 430 baht scheme per month for working people, covers all medical bills in a govt hospital, but is limited to 900 baht per year.

 

please explain this... the way you wrote is as if i pay 430 bht per month but am only covered 900. this makes no sense. i have 'pagan sangkom'  e.g. social security and it has paid hundreds of thousands so far. and it costs around 430 bht per month

 

kidney surgery

knee replacement both legs

cataract surgeries

and the list goes on

 

so, i think something is missing in your post... unless what you are trying to say is that 'dental coverage' is limited to 900...?

Edited June 30 by Pouatchee

[Raindancer]

Just now, Pouatchee said:

 

please explain this... the way you wrote is as if i pay 430 bht per month but am only covered 900. this makes no sense. i have 'pagan sangkom'  e.g. social security and it has paid hundreds of thousands so far. and it costs around 430 bht per month

 

kidney surgery

knee replacement both legs

cataract surgeries

and the list goes on

 

so, i think something is missing in your post...

My apologies.  You are absolutely  correct.   We'll spotted.

 

I was referring to the dental cover being limited to 900 baht per year.

 

I hope that clarifies it.🙏🏻

[Pouatchee]

Just now, Raindancer said:

My apologies.  You are absolutely  correct.   We'll spotted.

 

I was referring to the dental cover being limited to 900 baht per year.

 

I hope that clarifies it.🙏🏻

 

i edited likely when you were typing.... after re re reading i finally got it...🤣

[Raindancer]

Just now, Pouatchee said:

 

i edited likely when you were typing.... after re re reading i finally got it...🤣

No problem.  As  I get older I sometimes know what I am referring to, but don't always explain it fully 🤣🤣🤣🙏🏻

[dallen52]

4 hours ago, Raindancer said:

There is no 350 baht charge to initially join the scheme.

 

But you do indeed pay 30 baht for each hospital visit to a govt hospital.

 

As for dental cover, that would need to be clarified at the point of a dental visit

 

The monthly  circa 430 baht scheme per month for working people, covers all medical bills in a govt hospital, but is limited to 900 baht per year.

 

So, it would be difficult to imagine that the 30 baht scheme has much if any, dental cover.

 

But I stand to be corrected on the final paragraph.

 

If your friend thinks that the 1600 baht each root canal, is disingenuous, all he has to do is check the bill that he paid for.

 

She took her child to the hospital. 

Root canal required in its first teeth.

Next day the child was back and another one.

1600 baht.

Two days later the girl took the child to the local welfare centre. 

2100 baht.

Three root canal in milk teeth. 

Her child is 5.

Poor oral hygiene obviously. 

 

Anyway. 

Her next attempt to him was can he pay for a citizen gold card. 

350 baht and then only 30 baht a visit. 

Local government hospital in Nangrong,  Buriram province. 

 

I'm pretty sure that he's been suckered.

But love can be blind..

 

[couchpotato]

8 minutes ago, dallen52 said:

She took her child to the hospital. 

Root canal required in its first teeth.

Next day the child was back and another one.

1600 baht.

Two days later the girl took the child to the local welfare centre. 

2100 baht.

Three root canal in milk teeth. 

Her child is 5.

Poor oral hygiene obviously. 

 

Anyway. 

Her next attempt to him was can he pay for a citizen gold card. 

350 baht and then only 30 baht a visit. 

Local government hospital in Nangrong,  Buriram province. 

 

I'm pretty sure that he's been suckered.

But love can be blind..

 

This is a very confusing post.

[Raindancer]

2 minutes ago, dallen52 said:

She took her child to the hospital. 

Root canal required in its first teeth.

Next day the child was back and another one.

1600 baht.

Two days later the girl took the child to the local welfare centre. 

2100 baht.

Three root canal in milk teeth. 

Her child is 5.

Poor oral hygiene obviously. 

 

Anyway. 

Her next attempt to him was can he pay for a citizen gold card. 

350 baht and then only 30 baht a visit. 

Local government hospital in Nangrong,  Buriram province. 

 

I'm pretty sure that he's been suckered.

But love can be blind..

 

Maybe she genuinely misunderstood that she has to pay 350 baht for initial registration.   You can pass on my comments, that it is not needed.

 

As for the dental expenses, I cannot comment.  But I would find it unusual to have root canal work in a child's milk teeth.

 

He needs to ask the dentists why that procedure, if it was indeed carried out, was necessary.  Milk teeth are what they are, and normally fall out and replaced naturally.

Unless there was some gum disease,which needed some other intervention.

 

But I am not a qualified dental surgeon.  So, I may be commenting out of place. 

[dallen52]

2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

I do not know exact details but dental cover under the 30 haht scheme is quite limited.

 

As poster above noted, there is no fee to "join" the scheme. Actually any Thai citizen not covered under either of the 2 SS systems is automatically covered under the scheme.

 

There is a small fee (usually 50 baht) the very first time one registers at a hospital to get a patient number etc, not sure if the 30 baht scheme covers that or not, but it is only 50 baht. 

 

Root canals usually cost much more than 1,600 baht  even if that was per treatment (not pre root canal...a single root canal can entails 2 - 5 separate sessions).  So certainly not excessive.

 

The larger issue is if your friend is happy with a relationship in which he is expected to (and can afford to) financially support his GF (pretty much the norm here for farang-thai pairings). That's for him to decide. 

 

 

 

 

Yes Sheryl. 

I can't but help thinking that he probably received a good dose of extraction of the wallet. 

I mean, why do a root canal on milk teeth?

Why wasn't the total extent of dental care picked up on the first visit.?

And then the 350 request for a gold card.(no longer required).

I've used the hospital several times and even farang charges are quite low. 

 

Its something he will have to sort out. 

But appreciate the confirmation that there is no 350 charge.

Just show the id card. 

[Raindancer]

6 minutes ago, dallen52 said:

Yes Sheryl. 

I can't but help thinking that he probably received a good dose of extraction of the wallet. 

I mean, why do a root canal on milk teeth?

Why wasn't the total extent of dental care picked up on the first visit.?

And then the 350 request for a gold card.(no longer required).

I've used the hospital several times and even farang charges are quite low. 

 

Its something he will have to sort out. 

But appreciate the confirmation that there is no 350 charge.

Just show the id card. 

Perhaps, you could take your friend aside and have a quiet word with him.   You obviously think his kindness or naivete, is being abused.

 

It would be unfair of me to pass judgement on this person, and I have my own private thoughts on what I would do.

 

[dallen52]

1 minute ago, Raindancer said:

Maybe she genuinely misunderstood that she has to pay 350 baht for initial registration.   You can pass on my comments, that it is not needed.

 

As for the dental expenses, I cannot comment.  But I would find it unusual to have root canal work in a child's milk teeth.

 

He needs to ask the dentists why that procedure, if it was indeed carried out, was necessary.  Milk teeth are what they are, and normally fall out and replaced naturally.

Unless there was some gum disease,which needed some other intervention.

 

But I am not a qualified dental surgeon.  So, I may be commenting out of place. 

She arced up when he challenged her.

"Saying what you know about this.."

 

And her responses obviously will cause issues for him..lol.

 

 

[Raindancer]

Well, they don't like confrontation or being challenged,  especially when they have been caught out.

 

I don't know how long they have been together, nor how strong their relationship is.

But notwithstanding that, there needs to be some serious discussions.  

 

And if I was challenged in that manner, and the relationship was in the early stages,  I know that it would be a simple thing to move on alone.

Edited June 30 by Raindancer

[dallen52]

4 minutes ago, Raindancer said:

Perhaps, you could take your friend aside and have a quiet word with him.   You obviously think his kindness or naivete, is being abused.

 

It would be unfair of me to pass judgement on this person, and I have my own private thoughts on what I would do.

 

I think he has realised that perhaps his contributions have been for several questionable items.

Not just these, but other occasions as well.

His choice what he does now.

[Raindancer]

1 minute ago, dallen52 said:

I think he has realised that perhaps his contributions have been for several questionable items.

Not just these, but other occasions as well.

His choice what he does now.

With some of them, it never stops........move on!!

[dallen52]

1 minute ago, Raindancer said:

With some of them, it never stops........move on!!

I know myself that they gave me a card and registration number for the hospital. 

I've noticed that several times there's a 50 baht farang charge. 

Plus medication or procedure. 

 

Its his choice what he does next.

You have confirmed what I believed to be the case.

Gold card was cancelled a few years ago. 

Just show id card now.

 

[BritManToo]

6 minutes ago, dallen52 said:

I've noticed that several times there's a 50 baht farang charge. 

50bht charge is the standard doctor's fee for anyone not registered at that government hospital.

 

They don't care what colour your skin is.

Edited June 30 by BritManToo

[Raindancer]

12 minutes ago, dallen52 said:

I know myself that they gave me a card and registration number for the hospital. 

I've noticed that several times there's a 50 baht farang charge. 

Plus medication or procedure. 

 

Its his choice what he does next.

You have confirmed what I believed to be the case.

Gold card was cancelled a few years ago. 

Just show id card now.

 

PM sent.

[Sheryl]

4 hours ago, dallen52 said:

Yes Sheryl. 

I can't but help thinking that he probably received a good dose of extraction of the wallet. 

I mean, why do a root canal on milk teeth?

Why wasn't the total extent of dental care picked up on the first visit.?

And then the 350 request for a gold card.(no longer required).

I've used the hospital several times and even farang charges are quite low. 

 

Its something he will have to sort out. 

But appreciate the confirmation that there is no 350 charge.

Just show the id card. 

I can confirm it is not normal practice to do a root canal on milk teeth. If necessary they would do simple extraction.

 

Yes, he will have to sort it out. She is not going to remain with him without financial support  in exchange (neither would >90% of other potential Thai GFs) , but they could work out a more honest and transparent arrangement.

[how241]

There were some threads on moving a Thai girls address or house book from her village to Pattaya to be eligible under the 30 baht scheme.  It didn't sound so easy and maybe the landlord would need to be involved.  My question:  is this something an agent could do for a fee ?  Has anyone used a Pattaya agent and had the Thai girls registration changed so she could use Pattaya area hospitals ??  Thanks for any info.

[Sheryl]

16 hours ago, how241 said:

There were some threads on moving a Thai girls address or house book from her village to Pattaya to be eligible under the 30 baht scheme.  It didn't sound so easy and maybe the landlord would need to be involved.  My question:  is this something an agent could do for a fee ?  Has anyone used a Pattaya agent and had the Thai girls registration changed so she could use Pattaya area hospitals ??  Thanks for any info.

Members are reporting that it is easy and needs only rental contract, utility bill or other proof she resides there.

[how241]

30 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Members are reporting that it is easy and needs only rental contract, utility bill or other proof she resides there.

Thanks for the info.  The Thai girl lives with me in a rental house in my name.  The electric is in the house owners name.  The only bill in her name in the TRUE  internet.  I don't know if that would be OK so that's why I was wondering if an agent can work their magic.  She has lived in Pattaya for 12 years but there is no way to prove that.

[Sheryl]

2 minutes ago, how241 said:

Thanks for the info.  The Thai girl lives with me in a rental house in my name.  The electric is in the house owners name.  The only bill in her name in the TRUE  internet.  I don't know if that would be OK so that's why I was wondering if an agent can work their magic.  She has lived in Pattaya for 12 years but there is no way to prove that.

 

Can try with the internet bill.

 

 

[PPMMUU]

If the internet bill has her name and current address on it I think it's worth a try and will likely work.