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Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

You really should read your own links before posting, that article does not refer to EVs piling up in China, as KhunLA commented, it is about European ports.

 

Of course they are not pilling up in China, because they export them, but that probably will go over your head

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Posted
19 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

You ask how to explain that.

 

Easey Peasey. It's fake news.

 

February 7.4% of new cars were EV's

March 10.6% of new cars were EV's

April 10.8% of new cars were EV's

May 12.1% of new cars were EV's

June 13.4% of new cars were EV's.

 

So EV market share grew 

30% in March

2% in April

11% in May

10% in June

 

Don't insult my intelligence with fake news you find on the internet.

 

Your having a laugh with your 30% figure for March 2024

DLT report April registrations (March Sales ) for R.Y. 1 Private passenger car with no more than 7 people were 4007

March figures were 4,720

April 2023 figures were 3,820

March 2023 figures were 6,204

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Of course they are not pilling up in China, because they export them, but that probably will go over your head


It's been debunked on here before (by me as well as others). There is a Financial Times article that tells the whole story, that it is mainly due to a shortage of hauliers in Europe and that it is affecting everything, not only Chinese EVs. But those with an agenda jump on the Chinese EV thing. It is a logistical issue rather than "dumping".

However, many of the Chinese groups were building teams in Europe from scratch and grappling with real-world logistical challenges, car executives said. As newcomers to the market, they have struggled to find haulage companies to prioritise their orders. “Lack of trucks” is a “very common problem”, said one person familiar with the situation, who added that many vehicles had been “reserved by Tesla”. “Any new brand will be facing this issue, if you don’t have scale, if you don’t have regular deliveries, then you are not the [trucking groups’] largest clients,” they added.

https://www.ft.com/content/496f3bfa-9f0c-4145-9024-188572a280fd

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Posted
3 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Your having a laugh with your 30% figure for March 2024

DLT report April registrations (March Sales ) for R.Y. 1 Private passenger car with no more than 7 people were 4007

March figures were 4,720

April 2023 figures were 3,820

March 2023 figures were 6,204

 

 

Please don't insult his intelligence 😅

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Posted
7 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

The fact is the EV sector is growing and the ICE sector is shrinking.

 

Whether vehicles are piling up anywhere is irrelevant because the whole car industry is crashing.

 

However you slice and dice it 

  • February 7.4% of new cars were EV's
  • March 10.6% of new cars were EV's
  • April 10.8% of new cars were EV's
  • May 12.1% of new cars were EV's
  • June 13.4% of new cars were EV's.

 

EV market share grew 

  • 30% in March
  • 2% in April
  • 11% in May
  • 10% in June

The fact is that people are switching to EV's in droves.

 

Just to take what I think was probably one of your posts.  BYD cars piling up at a port in Europe with the headline that some of them for more than a year.  The reality was the cars were transient for a couple of weeks only because there was insufficient local transport available and those that had been there a long time (a handful only) had issues awaiting mechanical intervention.

 

Most of this stuff you read is just untrue.

 

The increasing market share tells you everything you need to know.

The thread is about the new ICE engines, not about your early EV purchase...🤔

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Posted
1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:


It's been debunked on here before (by me as well as others). There is a Financial Times article that tells the whole story, that it is mainly due to a shortage of hauliers in Europe and that it is affecting everything, not only Chinese EVs. But those with an agenda jump on the Chinese EV thing. It is a logistical issue rather than "dumping".

However, many of the Chinese groups were building teams in Europe from scratch and grappling with real-world logistical challenges, car executives said. As newcomers to the market, they have struggled to find haulage companies to prioritise their orders. “Lack of trucks” is a “very common problem”, said one person familiar with the situation, who added that many vehicles had been “reserved by Tesla”. “Any new brand will be facing this issue, if you don’t have scale, if you don’t have regular deliveries, then you are not the [trucking groups’] largest clients,” they added.

https://www.ft.com/content/496f3bfa-9f0c-4145-9024-188572a280fd

The new ICE engines, you are on the wrong thread.......🙄

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Posted
3 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Your having a laugh with your 30% figure for March 2024

DLT report April registrations (March Sales ) for R.Y. 1 Private passenger car with no more than 7 people were 4007

March figures were 4,720

April 2023 figures were 3,820

March 2023 figures were 6,204

 

 

The numbers of EV's sold tells you nothing about whether people are switching to EV's, you know this Vinny.

 

You have to look at whether people choose EV over ICE & vice-versa and look at the percentages.  That tells you what is going on.

 

The total number of vehicles sold each month tells you about the overall market.

 

Suppose one 100 EV's were sold in July, what does that tell you? It tells you demand has crashed for EV's or demand has crashed for cars.  If you now add to this that no ICE cars were sold at all, it completes the picture. Demand for all cars has crashed.

 

When you present information, it has to be meaningful and not try to lead the reader to a fake conclusion. What you posted is misleading and you know it.

 

EV market share grew 

  • 30% in March
  • 2% in April
  • 11% in May
  • 10% in June

The fact is that people are switching to EV's in droves.

 

 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

The fact is the EV sector is growing and the ICE sector is shrinking.

 

Whether vehicles are piling up anywhere is irrelevant because the whole car industry is crashing.

 

However you slice and dice it 

  • February 7.4% of new cars were EV's
  • March 10.6% of new cars were EV's
  • April 10.8% of new cars were EV's
  • May 12.1% of new cars were EV's
  • June 13.4% of new cars were EV's.

 

EV market share grew 

  • 30% in March
  • 2% in April
  • 11% in May
  • 10% in June

The fact is that people are switching to EV's in droves.

 

Just to take what I think was probably one of your posts.  BYD cars piling up at a port in Europe with the headline that some of them for more than a year.  The reality was the cars were transient for a couple of weeks only because there was insufficient local transport available and those that had been there a long time (a handful only) had issues awaiting mechanical intervention.

 

Most of this stuff you read is just untrue.

 

The increasing market share tells you everything you need to know.

People switching to EV's in droves what are you smoking

Number of EV registrations for the period Feburary 2024 30th June 2024 for 

for R.Y. 1 Private passenger car with no more than 7 people were 23,183

Number of vehicles registered for the same period excluding EV were 180,246

180246 for ICE vs 23,183 for EV's indicate that people are not switching to EV's in droves as you posted

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1 minute ago, vinny41 said:

People switching to EV's in droves what are you smoking

Number of EV registrations for the period Feburary 2024 30th June 2024 for 

for R.Y. 1 Private passenger car with no more than 7 people were 23,183

Number of vehicles registered for the same period excluding EV were 180,246

180246 for ICE vs 23,183 for EV's indicate that people are not switching to EV's in droves as you posted

 

The word "Switching" was used by you and me.  Not "Switched".

 

Switching needs a comparison.  I gave the comparison.

  • February 7.4% of new cars were EV's
  • March 10.6% of new cars were EV's
  • April 10.8% of new cars were EV's
  • May 12.1% of new cars were EV's
  • June 13.4% of new cars were EV's.
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It's a hybrid. Ok. And probably a very expensive hybrid.

I drive a Suzuki with a regular ICE engine which gets 50+ miles per gallon.  The car is very affordable and the fuel and maintenance is highly affordable.  I don't see how spending 2 or 3 million THB on a car to get "affordable fuel efficiency" makes any sense at all.

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Posted
2 hours ago, transam said:

Your EV uses electric motors, when were electric motors introduced........😂

 

Yes, 100 year old tech, all you have that is new, is the battery pack......😉

They've been around a while, too....😂

What is new is all that sensitive electronics sitting on the underbelly of the car. Protected, yes, but still the most exposed part of a vehicle. 

 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Here you go

 

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Source @ExpatOilWorker who got them from www.autolifethailand.tv 

 

Putting these numbers in context

  • February 92.6% of new cars were ICE powered
  • March 89.4% of new cars were ICE powered
  • April 89.2% of new cars were ICE powered
  • May 87.9% of new cars were ICE powered
  • June 86.6% of new cars were ICE powered

As you can see the market share of ICE cars dropped every month

 

 

Compare that to the market share of new EV's

  • February 7.4% of new cars were EV's
  • March 10.6% of new cars were EV's
  • April 10.8% of new cars were EV's
  • May 12.1% of new cars were EV's
  • June 13.4% of new cars were EV's.

As you can see the market share of EV's increased every month

 

 

In fact, EV market share grew 

  • 30% in March
  • 2% in April
  • 11% in May
  • 10% in June

The fact is that people are switching to EV's in droves.

 

Thats not evidence, evidence needs to come from an offical source and as you know

The numbers I provided was every vehicle that is required to register with the DLT including electric motor cycles 

The stats provided by @ExpatOilWorker only represent a single category of type of road vehicle and that is 

category R.Y. 1 Private passenger car with no more than 7 people and as aa result are not a true representation of all ICE vehicles registered with the DLT

 

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1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

However you slice and dice it 

  • February 7.4% of new cars were EV's
  • March 10.6% of new cars were EV's
  • April 10.8% of new cars were EV's
  • May 12.1% of new cars were EV's
  • June 13.4% of new cars were EV's.

 

EV market share grew 

  • 30% in March
  • 2% in April
  • 11% in May
  • 10% in June

The electromagnetic fields are again playing tricks with your percentage calculating skills. Did you catch BYDifitis?

How on earth 🌎 did you get 30% for March???? 🤪 

It should be 43%

May should be 12%, not 11%. 

June 10.7%, sigh 😕,  round up to 11%

Let me be a gentleman and fix it for you, I will even add February for free 😊 😃 😀

-64% February (minus!!!)

43% March

2% April

12% May

11% June

Posted
1 minute ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

The electromagnetic fields are again playing tricks with your percentage calculating skills. Did you catch BYDifitis?

How on earth 🌎 did you get 30% for March???? 🤪 

It should be 43%

May should be 12%, not 11%. 

June 10.7%, sigh 😕,  round up to 11%

Let me be a gentleman and fix it for you, I will even add February for free 😊 😃 😀

-64% February (minus!!!)

43% March

2% April

12% May

11% June

 

Thank you

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Posted
6 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

The electromagnetic fields are again playing tricks with your percentage calculating skills. Did you catch BYDifitis?

How on earth 🌎 did you get 30% for March???? 🤪 

It should be 43%

May should be 12%, not 11%. 

June 10.7%, sigh 😕,  round up to 11%

Let me be a gentleman and fix it for you, I will even add February for free 😊 😃 😀

-64% February (minus!!!)

43% March

2% April

12% May

11% June

You must be smoking the same stuff as JB

for R.Y. 1 Private passenger car with no more than 7 people

Total number of cars registered March 2024 45,315 which includes 4,720 EV's

Total number of cars registered April 2024 38,022 which includes 4007 EV's

Total number of cars registered May 2024 43,196 which includes 5,270 EV's

The EV market share of 30% in March is a total figment of anyone's imagination

 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, In the jungle said:

 

I pointed out on another topic that the figures you are peddling arbitrarily exclude large numbers of ICE pick ups.  Yet here you are peddling the same figures again.

 

 

 

There aren't any EV pickups on the market yet, when there are, I will gladly compare them to ICE pickups.

 

The same goes for tractors, road rollers and all the others you wanted included.

 

My figures include ALL of the RY.1 passenger cars.  That is where we currently have EV's sold.

 

ALL petrol/diesel RY.1 were included and the same for EV's

 

I compared apples to apples, not apples to apples, pears, oranges, prunes, grapes and other irrelevancies.

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