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90-day report must be in person after each re-entry?

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16 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Fortran 1V (that Thailand uses) has its limitations

 

Is that Fortran IV, the programming language from 1961?

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  • Tod Daniels
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    Totally 100% correct 😮 😕  Since they did the last update to the TM47 online system you have to file the first report after you return from abroad in person before you can then use the online syst

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  • Tod Daniels
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    Yep, anyone can do the report for you, just has to be done at the immigration office

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Thanks for the replies, does not appear to be any errors filling it in, I have re-submitted, be a pain if I have to go to immigration, as it is a holiday Monday so the rest of the week will be busy

is the reporting gap down to 7 days at some offices and not others? I have done it several times online at 15 days since I read on here last year it's now 7 days

2 minutes ago, proton said:

I have done it several times online at 15 days since I read on here last year it's now 7 days

Correct. 

Good plan is to have the 15 day window start date in cell calendar and do it as soon as the 15 days opens. 

Just throwing this out there, probably luck of the draw but a popular Thai X poster said he got his online 90 day report accepted after a 3rd attempt having just re-entered the country 90 days prior! Go figure!
 

 

21 minutes ago, proton said:

is the reporting gap down to 7 days at some offices and not others? I have done it several times online at 15 days since I read on here last year it's now 7 days

At CW it's 14-7 days before, whilst other IO's seem to operate on the 14 before up to the report date.

If your report is due for example on a Tuesday, then you're safe to apply on Tuesday two weeks beforehand in all cases.

9 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

ust throwing this out there, probably luck of the draw but a popular Thai X poster said he got his online 90 day report accepted after a 3rd attempt having just re-entered the country 90 days prior! Go figure!

That depends on the situation.

If you're out of the Country when a report is due, then you'll have to submit the first report in person.
If you're out of the Country in-between reports dates, then you can still report online on as usual.

The entry/exit and 90 day report systems are not linked.

10 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

That depends on the situation.

If you're out of the Country when a report is due, then you'll have to submit the first report in person.
If you're out of the Country in-between reports dates, then you can still report online on as usual.

The entry/exit and 90 day report systems are not linked.


So you are saying if you are out of the country in between report dates than you can report online within 90 days of arriving back? Or within 90 days of your last report? I always though leaving and re-entering the country reset the 90 days.

10 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

If you're out of the Country in-between reports dates, then you can still report online on as usual.

This doesn't make any sense. .maybe rewrite

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19 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:


So you are saying if you are out of the country in between report dates than you can report online within 90 days of arriving back? Or within 90 days of your last report? I always though leaving and re-entering the country reset the 90 days.

 

19 minutes ago, couchpotato said:

This doesn't make any sense. .maybe rewrite

90 day online report due, submitted and approved for example on 1st March.
Next due report date 28th June.

Depart Thailand 10th April, return 10th May. (Between due report dates).

Submit online 20th June (8 days prior) > accepted.

The systems are not linked, and the auto 90 day system isn't aware you departed and returned to the Country.

 

Yes, theoretically if you depart the Country then on re-entry your next 90-day report is due 89 days after entry.
It's the online system that predicts your next report date, it's auto generated, so if you miss a report date, you have to report in person, so the IO can reset the due report date in the system.

19 hours ago, Liquorice said:

90 day online report due, submitted and approved for example on 1st March.
Next due report date 28th June.

Depart Thailand 10th April, return 10th May. (Between due report dates).

Submit online 20th June (8 days prior) > accepted.

The systems are not linked, and the auto 90 day system isn't aware you departed and returned to the Country.

 

Yes, theoretically if you depart the Country then on re-entry your next 90-day report is due 89 days after entry.
It's the online system that predicts your next report date, it's auto generated, so if you miss a report date, you have to report in person, so the IO can reset the due report date in the system.

Doesn't this contradict everything ever posted on this forum? I thought the clock resets on reentry end of but you say not so.

 

I'd be interested to know if what you say works, do we have real life experiences? Is this really a way to beat and stay with the online 90 day report without need to report in person having exit/reenter country? Curious.

1 hour ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Doesn't this contradict everything ever posted on this forum? I thought the clock resets on reentry end of but you say not so.

 

I'd be interested to know if what you say works, do we have real life experiences? Is this really a way to beat and stay with the online 90 day report without need to report in person having exit/reenter country? Curious.


Yeah, it'd be a game changer if that is so. 

4 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Doesn't this contradict everything ever posted on this forum? I thought the clock resets on reentry end of but you say not so.

A 90 day report is only due if spending more than 90 consecutive days in Thailand.

Thus, if you leave you break this cycle and on re-entry you are responsible for the next day count.

An IO only approves a submission, it's the computer system that auto generates the next report date from the date of approval and the 90 day system is not linked to the exit/entry system.

 

4 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

I'd be interested to know if what you say works, do we have real life experiences? Is this really a way to beat and stay with the online 90 day report without need to report in person having exit/reenter country? Curious.

In 2023, a friend and I were both travelling to the UK, both departing and returning within days of each other.
The difference being my next 90-day report was due whilst I was in the UK, whilst my friends wasn't due for a couple of months.

On returning, I started the 89 day countdown, fully aware I'd missed the window to submit.
On the other hand, my friend received the e-mail reminder to submit his next report, which he duly did, expecting it to be 'refused' but it was 'approved' and he's continued to report online since.

 

In addition, when my report was due, I submitted in person, and it usually takes no longer than 10 minutes to receive a new report date. On this occasion, the IO appeared mystified and eventually told me he couldn't find my previous 90-day report. I'm sure he was thinking along the lines of missed report = fine.

I advised him he wouldn't find one as I was out of the Country the time it was due.

He then mumbled and grumbled about having to log out and log into another system to check the facts.
All he had to do was look at the exit and entry stamps in my passport to confirm the facts, but that obviously never occurred to him.

If the exit/entry system and the 90 day online system were linked, then he would have automatically been alerted to the reason my previous report was missed.

 

32 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

On the other hand, my friend received the e-mail reminder to submit his next report, which he duly did, expecting it to be 'refused' but it was 'approved' and he's continued to report online since.

Your experience agrees with what ChatGPT says today. Since the 90 day online and immigration entry databases are not linked one can continue using the 90 day online schedule without resetting clock after an overseas trip assuming one has gone out and back within a 90 day report window. Otherwise it is not allowed for longer overseas trips as doing an online report from overseas whilst possible without linked databases is not allowed so should be avoided.

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