Whenever I see a post from somebody (here on AN) talking about going short-time, or taking part in the nightlife in Thailand there will inevitably be some other posters on here who will then comment something to the effect of "sad" or "shallow", but I never understood why. So let's unpack this. 

 

First off, why is it anyone's right or business to say something condescending about another person's lifestyle, especially someone else whom they personally know nothing about? 

 

Next, what is actually sad or shallow about it? Some men simply may not want to share their life with a partner full-time, but they also don't want to be forced to be celibate. So short-time works really well for them. Nothing wrong with that.

 

Then are there any real moral issues? No. Are they helping to put some much needed money into the lower end of the local economy? Yes. 
 

So somebody explain to me how it's sad or shallow. And furthermore, explain to me how it isn't the perfect thing for someone who still has biological needs and/or carnal desires, but feels happier being alone. 

 

I suspect many of the posters making these condescending comments are ones who are in longtime monogamous relationships, and who can't envision or understand how someone else could possibly live a happy life in any other way. 
 

But truth be told, the guy living the short-time lifestyle might be a lot happier than the guy judging him and who feels stuck in a married position. And perhaps it's the guy who is not living the short-time lifestyle who is actually the one who's feeling sad. 
 

The forum should be called 'grumpy old man's forum'. 

 

If you are a high achiever and post anything positive about Thailand expect to be attacked by a bitter old man sitting behind his keyboard with a negative reply.

 

I seldom post a thread on AN, only a few times a year but the results are always the same, hostility and hate in the comments. 

 

It's best to avoid posting on the grumpy old man's forum unless you have something nasty to say about Thailand. 

 

I've never been a complainer, the only thing I've ever moaned about on AN forums are some of foreigners, saying the only bad thing about Thailand is some of the foreigners. 

 

9 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

Whenever I see a post from somebody (here on AN) talking about going short-time, or taking part in the nightlife in Thailand there will inevitably be some other posters on here who will then comment something to the effect of "sad" or "shallow", but I never understood why. So let's unpack this. 

 

First off, why is it anyone's right or business to say something condescending about another person's lifestyle, especially someone else whom they personally know nothing about? 

 

Next, what is actually sad or shallow about it? Some men simply may not want to share their life with a partner full-time, but they also don't want to be forced to be celibate. So short-time works really well for them. Nothing wrong with that.

 

Then are there any real moral issues? No. Are they helping to put some much needed money into the lower end of the local economy? Yes. 
 

So somebody explain to me how it's sad or shallow. And furthermore, explain to me how it isn't the perfect thing for someone who still has biological needs and/or carnal desires, but feels happier being alone. 

 

I suspect many of the posters making these condescending comments are ones who are in longtime monogamous relationships, and who can't envision or understand how someone else could possibly live a happy life in any other way. 
 

But truth be told, the guy living the short-time lifestyle might be a lot happier than the guy judging him and who is in the married position. And perhaps it's the guy who is not living the short-time lifestyle is actually the one who's feeling sad. 
 

Oh crap

 

 

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Oh crap

 

 

Need TP?

At the request of the OP I have moved this topic

Uh-oh, quick, run, the religious police will be here any minute now!

1 hour ago, SoCal1990 said:

Whenever I see a post from somebody (here on AN) talking about going short-time, or taking part in the nightlife in Thailand there will inevitably be some other posters on here who will then comment something to the effect of "sad" or "shallow", but I never understood why. So let's unpack this. 

 

First off, why is it anyone's right or business to say something condescending about another person's lifestyle, especially someone else whom they personally know nothing about? 

 

Next, what is actually sad or shallow about it? Some men simply may not want to share their life with a partner full-time, but they also don't want to be forced to be celibate. So short-time works really well for them. Nothing wrong with that.

 

Then are there any real moral issues? No. Are they helping to put some much needed money into the lower end of the local economy? Yes. 
 

So somebody explain to me how it's sad or shallow. And furthermore, explain to me how it isn't the perfect thing for someone who still has biological needs and/or carnal desires, but feels happier being alone. 

 

I suspect many of the posters making these condescending comments are ones who are in longtime monogamous relationships, and who can't envision or understand how someone else could possibly live a happy life in any other way. 
 

But truth be told, the guy living the short-time lifestyle might be a lot happier than the guy judging him and who feels stuck in a married position. And perhaps it's the guy who is not living the short-time lifestyle who is actually the one who's feeling sad. 
 

 

You asked to "unpack" your observations, so let's  give it a go;

1. Whenever I see a post from somebody (here on AN) talking about going short-time, or taking part in the nightlife in Thailand there will inevitably be some other posters on here who will then comment something to the effect of "sad" or "shallow", but I never understood why.   

Why not just use the correct term of prostitute?  As soon as the euphemisms are used, it indicates that the user is reluctant to admit to the use of a prostitute and is in a defacto state of denial.  Shallow is used, because the people who must rely on the sex trade typically have unpleasant unattractive personalities    And yes, the use of a sex worker is "sad". Some older men, and even rotund guys, are capable of pulling in sexual partners, doing so regularly. They do it because of their innate qualities. Charm, personality, manners, style, good looks and self comportment all are factors. The assumption that someone "old"  can't attract partners is unfounded.  The retired brigadier in my condo had a large number of women companions. He was a dashing, fit and impeccably turned out. A man's man with a big heart and outgoing personality and big smile. He was 75 years old and still charming the ladies. In Thailand farangs who do not smile, alienate Thais. It's a red flag.

 

First off, why is it anyone's right or business to say something condescending about another person's lifestyle, especially someone else whom they personally know nothing about? 

 Well, let's start with some basic facts about Thai sex trade workers. In most cases they are  working the trade because of a financial need. Usually from dysfunctional families,  of limited education, poor and often with a gambling or drug addiction, they need the money. Many have emotion or mental health  problems. Others are trafficked in from other countries.  A large number have cognitive  limitations i.e. have low intelligence and are tricked into the trade with promises of easy money and the option of picking who they service.   In effect, a large amount are exploited.  How can one respect a person who exploits a person with a low IQ and in debt? University graduates  and skilled tradespeople do not typically work in the Thai sex trade. Poor and dumb do.  

 

Next, what is actually sad or shallow about it? Some men simply may not want to share their life with a partner full-time, but they also don't want to be forced to be celibate. So short-time works really well for them. Nothing wrong with that.

Already answered above.

 

Then are there any real moral issues? No. Are they helping to put some much needed money into the lower end of the local economy? Yes. 

You do not see a moral issue because you do not  want to see it. You are looking for validation for a personal choice.

 

So somebody explain to me how it's sad or shallow. And furthermore, explain to me how it isn't the perfect thing for someone who still has biological needs and/or carnal desires, but feels happier being alone. 

If you are unable to understand how much of a loser a person is who must rely on a Thai prostitute  no amount of explaining can help. You know the answer, but again what you are  seeking is validation for the use of sex workers.

 

I suspect many of the posters making these condescending comments are ones who are in longtime monogamous relationships, and who can't envision or understand how someone else could possibly live a happy life in any other way. 
Maybe you are correct. Or maybe, the people you condemn just have an inherent understanding of the concept of right and wrong and firmly believe in not intentionally harming those less fortunate than them. After all, who really wants to have sex with these johns. The poor hygiene, the overbearing ugliness, the lack of personality and the general unpleasantness of not being able to have an emotional connection with someone is not particularly alluring.

 

But truth be told, the guy living the short-time lifestyle might be a lot happier than the guy judging him and who feels stuck in a married position. And perhaps it's the guy who is not living the short-time lifestyle who is actually the one who's feeling sad. 

Maybe. It doesn't matter. All you are doing now is trying to justify  the use of a prostitute.

 

Whenever, someone who uses a Thai sex hooker is exposed publicly, it can become a journey of public humiliation. Most everyone  will laugh at the john because invariably they are the embodiment of a loser. Unlikeable and almost always unattractive. Good looking  men with positive personalities do not need prostitutes. 

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

You do not see a moral issue because you do not  want to see it. You are looking for validation for a personal choice.

You perfectly fit the mold of my OP. The type who doesn't get it, passes judgment, makes lots of baseless assumptions, just like the one you made above. Bro, my OP is just discourse, it's not a personal account. 

Non religious people seem to have no problems with it, religious zealots do it in the dark. Those who preach others usually have skeletons in the closet.

16 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

You perfectly fit the mold of my OP. The type who doesn't get it, passes judgment, makes lots of baseless assumptions, just like the one you made above. Bro, my OP is just discourse, it's not a personal account. 

 

I think @Patong2021 covered it and I think you are full of it. "Just discourse".... 😊 Look how quickly you sought to disassociate yourself from the very thing you were trying to defend. 

Baseless assumptions? I think not. They are based in truth. That's a base.

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Non religious people seem to have no problems with it, religious zealots do it in the dark. Those who preach others usually have skeletons in the closet.

 

Now who is making assumptions? 😊

51 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

Ok

 

37 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

I think @Patong2021 covered it and I think you are full of it. "Just discourse".... 😊 Look how quickly you sought to disassociate yourself from the very thing you were trying to defend. 

Baseless assumptions? I think not. They are based in truth. That's a base.

 

 

 

Go on JD, when was the last time you bonked anything but the sofa when the wife wasn't looking? lol. 😂

18 minutes ago, FriscoKid said:

Go on JD, when was the last time you bonked anything but the sofa when the wife wasn't looking? lol. 😂

 

Who is JD? Some of us can attract girls in the wild. No need to P4P. An concept lost to the likes of you it seems.

I only do short time because I like a bed to myself and ache too much in the morning to see how low I sunk the night before. So I pay them to leave after 15 minutes or so.

4 minutes ago, NowNow said:

Some of us can attract girls in the wild.

God's gift to women incoming. 🤦🏻‍♂️

29 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

Ok

 

 

Too late for you to edit your reply 😊 It's captured for posterity in my reply to you above ☺️

Perhaps you can claim you were drunk at the time of posting.

1 minute ago, RSD1 said:

God's gift to women incoming. 🤦🏻‍♂️

 

Oh dear...

2 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

Too late for you to edit your reply 😊 It's captured for posterity in my reply to you above ☺️

Perhaps you can claim you were drunk at the time of posting.

Nobody gives AF. That's the point. You are obsessed. 

3 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

Why would it hurt? Who cares what the guy does? You are obsessed.

 

His lashing out over something he insists that doesn't apply to him. Doesn't that strike you as odd? If it doesn't touch him, he would reply in a balanced, perhaps detached manner. But the 'johns' here seem positively irritated.

Some, yourself included. perhaps even manic.

21 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

Who is JD? Some of us can attract girls in the wild. No need to P4P. An concept lost to the likes of you it seems.

I plow hookers a few times a week. So what? Maybe the OP does too. Again, so what? How does that hurt? Good for him, I hope he does. I'll bet you don't. Sad. 
 

When was the last time you stuck your hog in anything that isn't a part of your own anatomy that you use to wipe your backside with? 
 

 

2 minutes ago, FriscoKid said:

I plow hookers a few times a week. So what? Maybe the OP does too. Again, so what? How does that hurt? Good for him, I hope he does.
 

When was the last time you stuck your hog in anything that isn't a part of your anatomy that you use to wipe your backside with? 

 

@Patong2021 has already explained what to you. No need for me to add anything else. Though I have to admit that it brings a wry smile to my face when I see how accurate it is in describing some of the people who have posted in this thread 😊 At least @SoCal1990 had the good sense to delete his reply to me and to make a hasty retreat.

 

18 minutes ago, NowNow said:

 

Obsessed? It's a discussion board and we are discussing. You really haven't got the hang of this thing yet.

Over 1,000 posts on AN since June 5. Average 15 posts a day. Wow, definitely got nothing going on in your life. Maybe you should go short-time too. 

2 minutes ago, FriscoKid said:

Over 1,000 posts on AN since June 5. Average 15 posts a day. Wow, definitely got nothing going on in your life. Maybe you should go short-time too. 

 

Weird...are you stalking me now? I have no interest in looking at your profiler. You are just some weird guy on the Internet. 

I could easily have more than fifteen posts in this thread alone, that the point of a discussion board. You are weird. Perhaps that's why you cannot form normal relationships.

1 minute ago, NowNow said:

 

Weird...are you stalking me now? I have no interest in looking at your profiler. You are just some weird guy on the Internet. 

I could easily have more than fifteen posts in this thread alone, that the point of a discussion board. You are weird. Perhaps that's why you cannot form normal relationships.

Wow, you're so goofy I can't stop laughing. I can just imagine you at a party. The most awkward guy in the room. Causes all the women to leave early. Dude, go on. Don't stop. The garbage you write is absolute cringe gold. 💛

4 minutes ago, FriscoKid said:

A few cliched words in Latin. Now I'm over the F top impressed. Keep going JD. It is couch sexy time yet? 🤣

 

How 'animated' your posts here. The topic is a question. People are going to have different perspectives. Why are you so mad? I mean you are literally going crazy. Take a look at yourself.

4 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

CQFD in French, I guess?

 

Why 'guess'? You know it is.

"EACH TO HIS OWN!"

Over 30 replies. Barely any on topic. 🙄
 

Short-time is brilliant! So is whoever invented it. 

Short times make a lot of sense. My gf would complain if I would return too late or bring another girl with me.