On 8/22/2024 at 10:01 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

What is better: drinking, having fun and dying?

Or no drinking, no fun, and living unhappy for a long time?

 

I know it's not exactly like above. But there are lots of people who have a strict diet, don't drink, do this and don't do that who are unhappy. What's the point? 

Agree with you I am a spring chicken of 77 have my few glasses of red wine every night,  My grandfather drank like a fish and smoked like a chimney and lived well past 100 .

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

I stopped drinking any alcohol about 2 years ago after my liver blood tested was high ALT

 

Now I never drink 

I go for full blood tests every 2 weeks just to keep on top of any illness 

Blood tests every two weeks is hypochondria territory. But we already know that from the multiple health threads you start, describing your latest ailment.

 

I gave up alcohol as soon as I started chemo about two years ago. In any case, the 30 minute buzz i get from alcohol is not worth the 4-5 times I have to get up to pee, during the night.

 

I've seen several people die badly here from alcohol. I remember one guy who went back to NZ to commit suicide, in constant pain and sh!tting blood.

 

 

 

 

5 hours ago, Hummin said:

The good news, when you first get in to it, you are not craving anything. Healthy clean food taste better than junk food when in that roll.

 

Im more a wine drinker, and it is great to enjoy 2-3 glasses and still get the light buzz going, but more than that, I get hangover easily. 

I almost never eat junk food. Most of the time I eat quality food. Just sometimes a little too much of it. 😉 

On 8/22/2024 at 9:19 AM, steven100 said:

so does that mean I don't have much time left  ? 

 

 

 

According to experts, you died 27.13 years ago.

 

2 minutes ago, tjintx said:

 

According to experts, you died 27.13 years ago.

 

 

thank you ...   I feel better already  

4 minutes ago, steven100 said:

 

thank you ...   I feel better already  

 

4 minutes ago, tjintx said:

 

 

You are welcome.   Me, I died 43.26 years ago (pro tip, to make invented statistics more believable, always add fractions of precision - it's what the experts do).

 

2 minutes ago, tjintx said:

 

 

You are welcome.   Me, I died 43.26 years ago (btw, to make statistics more believable, always add fractions of precision).

 

ok ... I will.     now I'll just get another bottle before bed ...

I am 71, have drunk 4 units a day for the last 20 years. No health problems whatsoever. Even if i were to die tomorrow i wouldn't change my lifestyle.

7 minutes ago, Henryford said:

I am 71, have drunk 4 units a day for the last 20 years. No health problems whatsoever. Even if i were to die tomorrow i wouldn't change my lifestyle.

 

what is 4 units   ?   pints ?  bottles ?  small , large  ?    

hmm... drinking after 60 yrs old.   Seems like common sense to me, not to, or at least a lot less than before that age.

 

Why I slowed way down after about 55 yrs old, till almost quit now.   Very rare for me to drink alcohol.  Maybe six drinks in the last year.  

 

Was only a weekend ,or monthly warrior at best anyway.   But the body can only take so much abuse.  Do, did enjoy a beer or Mojito every now and then, but can't remember the last time I drank more than 2 in one sitting.

 

Yea ... definitely a wimp 

23yrs in the military and only really drank on a Friday after work, but not every Friday. 

 

Started working overseas and then drinking became a culture.  

 

Bougainville: South Pacific Beer

Iraq: anything but mainly spirits

Canada: Beer and spirits

Afghanistan: spirits

Philippines: San Miguel beer and Tanduay rum

Thailand: Leo beer, San Song rum

 

Coming on 62 but still like my beer and rum.  Possibly heading back to NZ for a whole and will have to curb my drinking... Too bloody expensive there! 

9 hours ago, steven100 said:

 

what is 4 units   ?   pints ?  bottles ?  small , large  ?    

 

It's a UK thing.

 

One unit equals 10ml or 8g of pure alcohol.

 

Source: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/alcohol-advice/calculating-alcohol-units/

1 minute ago, Puccini said:

 

It's a UK thing.

 

One unit equals 10ml or 8g of pure alcohol.

 

Source: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/alcohol-advice/calculating-alcohol-units/

 

aha .... so what is 4 units a day  ?     is that approximately one whiskey ?     surely it's not beer at 10ml a unit ...

 

why can't he just say I have a whiskey every day or whatever .....     who talks units  ???  

 

crazy ... 

2 minutes ago, steven100 said:

...who talks units  ??? 

 

The National Health Sevice of the United Kingdim of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (UK), some UK news publications, the AseanNow member @Henryford, and perhaps some other people of whom I'm not aware.

10 minutes ago, steven100 said:

 

aha .... so what is 4 units a day  ?     is that approximately one whiskey ?     surely it's not beer at 10ml a unit ...

 

why can't he just say I have a whiskey every day or whatever .....     who talks units  ???  

 

crazy ... 

I agree, although on the side of alcoholic beverages (mainly beer and wine) in NZ it written how many units are in each bottle. 

 

This works in line with the drink driving laws.

 

The consumer affairs department have provided a guideline on how many drinks (units) an average man or woman can consume to stay within legal parameters

 

A standard drink holds 10mg of alcohol (1 unit). 

 

Clear as mud? 

12 minutes ago, steven100 said:

...why can't he just say I have a whiskey every day or whatever ..... 

 

Because 

1.  you wouldn't know what volume of whisky or whater he drinks;

2. wheras it would be reasonable to assume that the whisky he drinks contains 40% alcohol by volume, you wouldn't know the alcohol concentration of "whatever"

13 minutes ago, Korat Kiwi said:

A standard drink holds 10mg of alcohol (1 unit). 

 

In New Zealand, how many millilitres do you pour for a "standard drink" of Ata Rangi (Martinborough) 2021 Pinot Noir?

On 8/30/2024 at 6:00 AM, georgegeorgia said:

I go for full blood tests every 2 weeks just to keep on top of any illness 

blood tests every 2 weeks is a bit much, no?

borderline hypochondriac maybe? 

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

blood tests every 2 weeks is a bit much, no?

borderline hypochondriac maybe? 

Borderline? Hahahaha

11 hours ago, steven100 said:

 

aha .... so what is 4 units a day  ?     is that approximately one whiskey ?     surely it's not beer at 10ml a unit ...

 

why can't he just say I have a whiskey every day or whatever .....     who talks units  ???  

 

crazy ... 

 

How big is a whiskey? single, double, treble? How big is a beer? 330 ml 620 ml? A unit relates to a standard spirit or a small beer. Much easier to understand and compare.

25 minutes ago, Henryford said:

 

How big is a whiskey? single, double, treble? How big is a beer? 330 ml 620 ml? A unit relates to a standard spirit or a small beer. Much easier to understand and compare.

 

aha .... so you would be having the same as 4 single whiskeys a day    ?  or similar ... 

11 hours ago, Puccini said:

 

In New Zealand, how many millilitres do you pour for a "standard drink" of Ata Rangi (Martinborough) 2021 Pinot Noir?

 

Wine - A standard glass of wine is 100ml, which contains 1 standard drink. However, a typical restaurant pour of wine is 150ml, which contains 1.5 standard drinks, and many people consume larger glasses or multiple glasses. 3. Spirits - A standard serve of spirits is 30ml, which contains 1 standard drink.

 

A standard drink is 10g of pure alcohol but this is not always one glass, can or bottle. Here is a quick Standard Drinks guide for you to commit to memory. 

Naturally as the ABV (the strength of the alcohol) goes up the volume of a standard drinks decreases – that is why we can drink 330ml of a 4% beer and only 30ml of a 40% spirit before we hit the 1 standard drink mark, but a standard drink is always 10g of pure alcohol.

 

It is super easy to find out how many standard drinks you are having by checking the label on the back of every bottle or can of alcohol sold in NZ.

A wine label that tells you there are 8 standard drinks in the bottle – means it will take your body 8 hours to process the alcohol if you drink this bottle by yourself.

A 12 pack of 5% beers (12x 1.3 stds) on a Saturday night is 15.6 standard drinks or 15.6 hours’ worth of processing. Makes you stop and think, doesn’t it!

 

By understanding standard drinks and the fact it takes the adult liver 1 hour to process each standard drink, you can finally ditch the guesswork and make smarter drinking choices. 

 

Water, food, medication, your size etc can make you feel the effects of the alcohol differently but they DON’T change the job the liver does. It takes 1 hour to process each standard drink so next time you're grabbing a drink, take a moment to check the label, figure out how many standard drinks it contains, and pace yourself to last the distance in style. 

 

Remember, the best nights out are the ones where you have fun, stay safe and laugh about the occasion for all the right reasons the next day! Now go forth, conquer those confusing labels, and enjoy your next drinking occasion!

 

3 minutes ago, Korat Kiwi said:

 

Wine - A standard glass of wine is 100ml, which contains 1 standard drink. However, a typical restaurant pour of wine is 150ml, which contains 1.5 standard drinks, and many people consume larger glasses or multiple glasses. 3. Spirits - A standard serve of spirits is 30ml, which contains 1 standard drink.

 

A standard drink is 10g of pure alcohol but this is not always one glass, can or bottle. Here is a quick Standard Drinks guide for you to commit to memory. 

Naturally as the ABV (the strength of the alcohol) goes up the volume of a standard drinks decreases – that is why we can drink 330ml of a 4% beer and only 30ml of a 40% spirit before we hit the 1 standard drink mark, but a standard drink is always 10g of pure alcohol.

 

It is super easy to find out how many standard drinks you are having by checking the label on the back of every bottle or can of alcohol sold in NZ.

A wine label that tells you there are 8 standard drinks in the bottle – means it will take your body 8 hours to process the alcohol if you drink this bottle by yourself.

A 12 pack of 5% beers (12x 1.3 stds) on a Saturday night is 15.6 standard drinks or 15.6 hours’ worth of processing. Makes you stop and think, doesn’t it!

 

By understanding standard drinks and the fact it takes the adult liver 1 hour to process each standard drink, you can finally ditch the guesswork and make smarter drinking choices. 

 

Water, food, medication, your size etc can make you feel the effects of the alcohol differently but they DON’T change the job the liver does. It takes 1 hour to process each standard drink so next time you're grabbing a drink, take a moment to check the label, figure out how many standard drinks it contains, and pace yourself to last the distance in style. 

 

Remember, the best nights out are the ones where you have fun, stay safe and laugh about the occasion for all the right reasons the next day! Now go forth, conquer those confusing labels, and enjoy your next drinking occasion!

 

Is there really a thing as standard, considering varied glass sizes & alcohol content.   The ever changing, shrinking sized of beer bottles & cans.   Different size pints.

 

When I bartended, I never poured a 'standard' shot of spirits or put in a mixed drink.  No tip there, unless serving women.  Men want to taste a bit of alcohol.

 

Even the standard (old) shot glass had a 'line' which nobody poured to, as always topped up beyond.   Pour me a standard drink, and you ain't getting a tip, as you must be the owner.

On 8/30/2024 at 6:16 PM, KannikaP said:

What a drag it is getting old. (Rolling Stones, Mothers Little Helper)

Childhood and old age are regarded as the happiest times of ones life, at 76 I certainly see it that way.

1 minute ago, soalbundy said:

Childhood and old age are regarded as the happiest times of ones life, at 76 I certainly see it that way.

But in my childhood I did not have high BP, enlarged prostate, a balding head, bills to pay, or a grandson to look after

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Is there really a thing as standard, considering varied glass sizes & alcohol content.   The ever changing, shrinking sized of beer bottles & cans.   Different size pints.

 

When I bartended, I never poured a 'standard' shot of spirits or put in a mixed drink.  No tip there, unless serving women.  Men want to taste a bit of alcohol.

 

Even the standard (old) shot glass had a 'line' which nobody poured to, as always topped up beyond.   Pour me a standard drink, and you ain't getting a tip, as you must be the owner.

Hey I agree, I remember many years ago I queried what was a standard pint of beer. 

 

NZ moved from the imperial measuring system to metric in Dec 1976.  

 

Theoretically a pint (UK) should have become 568ML.  Although a pint of milk became 600ml.

 

But your pint of beer can vary from pub to pub.  Some smart arses serve US pints which is actually 478ml.  And in parts of Australia they call a schooner a pint but that's actually only 425ml. 

 

Luckily in NZ it's supposed to be 568ml but some pubs serve 600ml. 

 

What I mentioned earlier was a basic guide for kiwis, put out by a government department to educate people on how much alcohol can effect your driving ability... and keeping everyone safe. 

 

But in reality, very few people read labels when they are on the turps. 

2 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

But in my childhood I did not have high BP, enlarged prostate, a balding head, bills to pay, or a grandson to look after

Having a grandson to look after should be considered a bonus, I enjoy looking after my wife's two small grand daughters. I have an enlarged prostate (doesn't bother me much) and a bald head, when I grew a beard my 17 year old son said I was better looking now than I did in my old passport. I am now stress free as I no longer work, I have a sufficient income, I am still healthy with no aches and pains, I have a nice family, I enjoy the spiritual teachings of Buddhism, Hinduism and the 14th century Christian mystic Meister Eckhard. Through the meditation practices taught to me by the abbot of our village Buddhist temple nothing bothers me at all, detachment from material possessions and societal norms is a blessing that brings freedom, so yes, I am happier no than I was in my 40's.

10 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Having a grandson to look after should be considered a bonus, I enjoy looking after my wife's two small grand daughters. I have an enlarged prostate (doesn't bother me much) and a bald head, when I grew a beard my 17 year old son said I was better looking now than I did in my old passport. I am now stress free as I no longer work, I have a sufficient income, I am still healthy with no aches and pains, I have a nice family, I enjoy the spiritual teachings of Buddhism, Hinduism and the 14th century Christian mystic Meister Eckhard. Through the meditation practices taught to me by the abbot of our village Buddhist temple nothing bothers me at all, detachment from material possessions and societal norms is a blessing that brings freedom, so yes, I am happier no than I was in my 40's.

 

I'm glad you're at the stage in life where you can relax... I'm yet to find that! 

 

In regards to prostate, have you tried the Kegel exercises?  I've just started trying them and they appear to work. 

 

Google can give the run down on what's involved. 

 

Best regards 

3 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Having a grandson to look after should be considered a bonus, I enjoy looking after my wife's two small grand daughters. I have an enlarged prostate (doesn't bother me much) and a bald head, when I grew a beard my 17 year old son said I was better looking now than I did in my old passport. I am now stress free as I no longer work, I have a sufficient income, I am still healthy with no aches and pains, I have a nice family, I enjoy the spiritual teachings of Buddhism, Hinduism and the 14th century Christian mystic Meister Eckhard. Through the meditation practices taught to me by the abbot of our village Buddhist temple nothing bothers me at all, detachment from material possessions and societal norms is a blessing that brings freedom, so yes, I am happier no than I was in my 40's.

That's because you didn't work a day in your life unlike some of of us 

 

I liken you to that UK & US sitcom with the Gallaghers ,what was the name of it 

All just a free life ,no work ,no worries ,what a great life you have had and good on you if you got away with it 

Meanwhile many of us are slaving away forced to work jobs mopping floors !!!!!