Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH), the Republican vice-presidential nominee, declined to distance himself from right-wing talk show host Tucker Carlson for hosting a Holocaust distortionist who called Winston Churchill the “chief villain” of World War II, but spoke out against the crackpot guest whom he follows on his X accounts.

Carlson has drawn unusually fierce criticism from several elected Republicans over his decision to host Darryl Cooper, a self-proclaimed podcast historian, on his program. Carlson described Cooper as “the best and most honest popular historian in the United States,” and declined to push back on any of the false claims made during their conversation. 

https://jewishinsider.com/2024/09/j-d-vance-declines-to-criticize-tucker-carlson-over-his-friendly-conversation-with-holocaust-denier/

JD Vance To Join Tucker Carlson After Carlson Hosted Nazi Apologist On His Show
The former Fox News host recently platformed Darryl Cooper, a Nazi apologist who said Winston Churchill — not Adolf Hitler — was the "chief villain" of WWII.

Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance plans to join former Fox News host Tucker Carlson in a live event following Carlson’s hosting of a Nazi apologist on his program.

Vance will be in Hershey, Pennsylvania, on Sept. 21 as part of Carlson’s “Live Tour,” according to PennLive. 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jd-vance-to-join-tucker-carlson-on-show_n_66d9cbcce4b00f05eae4c392

No surprise.

Both Tucker and Vance both useful idiots for Putin or worse.

A spokesperson for the Trump/Vance campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment. 🤣

Aah yes, Hitler, a classic example of what happens when an individual, addicted to vitamins and hormone injections followed by opioids and cocaine, runs a country.

🤔, feel free to insert any other name for Hitler. Maybe someone who is racist, mysoginistic and narcissistic  with a messiah complex.

Social media broadcaster. Historian? Not by any standards I am aware and the study/teaching of American/European History has been my my field for over half my now retired lifetime.

11 hours ago, placeholder said:

Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH), the Republican vice-presidential nominee, declined to distance himself from right-wing talk show host Tucker Carlson for hosting a Holocaust distortionist who called Winston Churchill the “chief villain” of World War II, but spoke out against the crackpot guest whom he follows on his X accounts.

Carlson has drawn unusually fierce criticism from several elected Republicans over his decision to host Darryl Cooper, a self-proclaimed podcast historian, on his program. Carlson described Cooper as “the best and most honest popular historian in the United States,” and declined to push back on any of the false claims made during their conversation. 

https://jewishinsider.com/2024/09/j-d-vance-declines-to-criticize-tucker-carlson-over-his-friendly-conversation-with-holocaust-denier/

Who cares. People are paying 50% more for fuel.

 

Such silly nonsense he said stuff

4 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Who cares. People are paying 50% more for fuel.

 

Such silly nonsense he said stuff

Deflecting much? 

And for what it's worth, your 50% figure is false. Unless you're comparing prices during the covid pandemic.,

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Deflecting much? 

And for what it's worth, your 50% figure is false. Unless you're comparing prices during the covid pandemic.,

All you lefties do is deflect from REAL ISSUES

1 minute ago, maesariang said:

All you lefties do is deflect from REAL ISSUES

Well, you just misleadingly claimed that it was a real issue that fuel prices are 50% higher.

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well, you just misleadingly claimed that it was a real issue that fuel prices are 50% higher.

More deflection

Just now, maesariang said:

More deflection

You're the one who brought it up as an example of a real issue. Not me. It is to laugh.

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You're the one who brought it up as an example of a real issue. Not me. It is to laugh.

Laughable topics. One after another. Unemployment and inflation are the key issues.

3 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Laughable topics. One after another. Unemployment and inflation are the key issues.

If it's laughable, the joke is on you. You brought up the issue of fuel prices, not me. I do agree with you that it's a deflection. It's your deflection, not mine.

How dare Vance not protest against a couple of people who express their individual opinions freely on a media platform that is not required listening but is available free to anyone who cares to listen.

 

Gosh, Next thing you know people may start to form their own opinions.

57 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Laughable topics. One after another. Unemployment and inflation are the key issues.

I’m searching the online Trump Vance official site to research the actual platform policies and positions the propose to do anything about inflation, cant find anything. 

 

Nothing,  other than schwag for the dupes and deplorables $24 bucks for a yard sign? $11 dollars for a sticker? They should have campaign staff canvassing neighborhoods to give this junk away gratis?

 

Oh, Here it is. 16 pages of promises, ie more lies. No specifics. Near 80 million likely Trump voters falling for a pile of codswallop.

 

https://rncplatform.donaldjtrump.com/?_gl=1*c6nxvi*_gcl_au*MTU1OTA1NjEyMi4xNzI1Njc3MzI4&_ga=2.151591993.1057983513.1725677328-1003503573.1725677328

 

 

 

with all the lies spead over the last couple of years, who would not question rest of history... what is sure that there were work camps, and many US soldiers killed survivors by their ignorance, feeding them food and ate themselves to death , aka refeeding syndrome

This is the state of journalism in 2024. Asking for a reaction to a comment made in an interview with no context or relevance. God forbid anyone talk about issues or platforms.  I am sure Kamala would be happy to comment on JD's reaction to a comment....

 

Jesus.

25 minutes ago, john donson said:

with all the lies spead over the last couple of years, who would not question rest of history... what is sure that there were work camps, and many US soldiers killed survivors by their ignorance, feeding them food and ate themselves to death , aka refeeding syndrome

Nonsense. There's a huge amount of evidence about the systematic extermination of the Jews by the Nazis. Start with the Wannsee conference.

20 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

This is the state of journalism in 2024. Asking for a reaction to a comment made in an interview with no context or relevance. God forbid anyone talk about issues or platforms.  I am sure Kamala would be happy to comment on JD's reaction to a comment....

 

Jesus.

What "context" are you referring to?

 

22 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

This is the state of journalism in 2024. Asking for a reaction to a comment made in an interview with no context or relevance. God forbid anyone talk about issues or platforms.  I am sure Kamala would be happy to comment on JD's reaction to a comment....

 

Jesus.

 

One of the biggest right wing media figures promotes a Holocaust denier, and thus trades in antisemitic tropes.

There is only one country in the world where this happens and near 80 million Trumpers deny the racism, or don't care.

 

Unfortunately for your MAGA  cadres most of the undecided voters who can make a difference in battleground States are decent people who actually have values and ethics. Personalities are important in elections, and many are not buying it anymore. Trump really has lost a lot of his likely, and former voters.

 

Disgruntled former employees?

 

Former Trump officials are among the most vocal opponents of returning him to the White House

 

https://apnews.com/article/former-trump-officials-criticize-2024-e202861911ab37cadfcf058b5b163fb9#

 

36 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Nonsense. There's a huge amount of evidence about the systematic extermination of the Jews by the Nazis. Start with the Wannsee conference.

 

I don't think Daryl Cooper said the Wannsee conference did not happen.  What he said was that

 

"“In 1941, they launched a war where they were completely unprepared to deal with the millions and millions of prisoners of war, of local political prisoners,” he said during the 138-minute conversation. Cooper then suggested that the murder of millions in the camps was an unintended consequence of Hitler’s unpreparedness for war"

 

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-818792

 

To call Daryl Cooper a "holocaust denier" looks either a misunderstanding of his statement or a deliberate attempt to defame him because of his political views.

 

It is undoubtedly true that Nazi Germany did not have adequate preparations and resources to feed all its millions of prisoners. Indeed the Allies themselves faced the same issue after the war.

 

In 1969, Lieutenant General Leonard D. Heaton prepared and published an exhaustive report for the United States Army Medical Department that examined preventive medicine and the problems associated with housing such a large number of German prisoners after World War II. The report found a number of problems, including:

 

• The army had lost track of some of the locations where POWs were held.
• The number of prisoners greatly exceeded expectations.
• Organization of the camps was left to prisoners.
• Food and water supplies were insufficient during April and May 1945, though they later improved.
• The 1200 to 1500 calories ration that the Disarmed Enemy Forces were receiving in August 1945 was inadequate.[18]
• The lack of food led in some cases to "extensive malnutrition."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheinwiesenlager

 

And the Americans had ten times LESS prisoners of war than the Germans.

 

This statement Daryl Cooper made is correct. The "misunderstanding" or deliberate faleshood would be to imply that this statement applies to the extermination of the Jews. I don't think Cooper made this extrapolation, but rather various media outlets that are opposed to Cooper's political views.

 

The far more interesting point Cooper made was to say that Churchill was the villain of WWII because he was the one who went out of his way to turn a local Polish German war into a world war and he was the one who ensured the fighting of WWII continued after 1940 when Germany had sued for peace with Britain in a serious way, and of course he was the one who authorised the murder of civilians through "strategic bombing".

 

 

2 hours ago, maesariang said:

Who cares. People are paying 50% more for fuel.

 

Such silly nonsense he said stuff

 

So now you are in agreement with the nazis. Not surprised. 

FYI, many people care. Multiple members of my family volunteered for service in WWII and served in Europe and in Asia. Some lived under Japanese occupation and witnessed the atrocities. To not care is to insult every veteran. I suppose I should not be surprised  at a comment from someone who does not see Trump's conduct at Normandy as reprehensible.

 

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

I don't think Daryl Cooper said the Wannsee conference did not happen.  What he said was that

 

"“In 1941, they launched a war where they were completely unprepared to deal with the millions and millions of prisoners of war, of local political prisoners,” he said during the 138-minute conversation. Cooper then suggested that the murder of millions in the camps was an unintended consequence of Hitler’s unpreparedness for war"

 

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-818792

 

To call Daryl Cooper a "holocaust denier" looks either a misunderstanding of his statement or a deliberate attempt to defame him because of his political views.

 

It is undoubtedly true that Nazi Germany did not have adequate preparations and resources to feed all its millions fo prisoners. Indeed the Allies themselves faced the same issue after the war.

 

In 1969, Lieutenant General Leonard D. Heaton prepared and published an exhaustive report for the United States Army Medical Department that examined preventive medicine and the problems associated with housing such a large number of German prisoners after World War II. The report found a number of problems, including:

 

• The army had lost track of some of the locations where POWs were held.
• The number of prisoners greatly exceeded expectations.
• Organization of the camps was left to prisoners.
• Food and water supplies were insufficient during April and May 1945, though they later improved.
• The 1200 to 1500 calories ration that the Disarmed Enemy Forces were receiving in August 1945 was inadequate.[18]
• The lack of food led in some cases to "extensive malnutrition."

And the Americans had ten times LESS prisoners of war than the Germans.

 

This statement Daryl Cooper made is correct. The "misunderstanding" or deliberate faleshood would be to imply that this statement applies to the extermination of the Jews. I don't think Cooper made extrapolation, but rather various media outlets that are opposed to Cooper's political views.

 

The far more interesting point Cooper made was to say that Churchill was the villain of WWII because he was the one who went out of his way to turn a local Polish German war into a world war and he was the one who ensured the fighting of WWII continued after 1940 when Germany had sued for peace with Britain in a serious way, and of coure he was the one who authorised the murder of civilians through "strategic bombing".

 

 

Please take your nazi revisionism and  keep it for the nazi and white supremacist forums.

1 hour ago, john donson said:

with all the lies spead over the last couple of years, who would not question rest of history... what is sure that there were work camps, and many US soldiers killed survivors by their ignorance, feeding them food and ate themselves to death , aka refeeding syndrome

 

The nazi record is proven and documented. That is why General Eisenhower  insisted that the liberation of the concentration camps be filmed so that when ignorant malicious people claimed that they did not exist, the evidence would be there. Hundreds of allied POWs were liberated from concentration camps. Hundreds of allied aircrew were executed on capture after 1944. Those were the direct orders of the Hitler. Allied POWs were murdered  at Normandy.  And you come along to dismiss this.

 

You blame deaths at concentration death camps on US military  personnel.  The  comment only an malicious evil person can make.  The kindness and generosity of US servicemen  is excusable, and forgiveable  No survivor's group has ever said anything negative. On the contrary, there was only appreciation and gratefulness for the humanity shown. Some mistakes were made but they were mistakes made by people who were traumatized by what they had seen and the injuries were limited and not anything like what you claim.

 

Why you bring up such nonsense is offensive and is essentially a disrespect to everyone who served. I grow weary of the the Russian saboteurs spreading their lies and the purveyors of hate.

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I don't think Daryl Cooper said the Wannsee conference did not happen.  What he said was that

 

"“In 1941, they launched a war where they were completely unprepared to deal with the millions and millions of prisoners of war, of local political prisoners,” he said during the 138-minute conversation. Cooper then suggested that the murder of millions in the camps was an unintended consequence of Hitler’s unpreparedness for war"

 

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-818792

 

To call Daryl Cooper a "holocaust denier" looks either a misunderstanding of his statement or a deliberate attempt to defame him because of his political views.

 

It is undoubtedly true that Nazi Germany did not have adequate preparations and resources to feed all its millions of prisoners. Indeed the Allies themselves faced the same issue after the war.

 

In 1969, Lieutenant General Leonard D. Heaton prepared and published an exhaustive report for the United States Army Medical Department that examined preventive medicine and the problems associated with housing such a large number of German prisoners after World War II. The report found a number of problems, including:

 

• The army had lost track of some of the locations where POWs were held.
• The number of prisoners greatly exceeded expectations.
• Organization of the camps was left to prisoners.
• Food and water supplies were insufficient during April and May 1945, though they later improved.
• The 1200 to 1500 calories ration that the Disarmed Enemy Forces were receiving in August 1945 was inadequate.[18]
• The lack of food led in some cases to "extensive malnutrition."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheinwiesenlager

 

And the Americans had ten times LESS prisoners of war than the Germans.

 

This statement Daryl Cooper made is correct. The "misunderstanding" or deliberate faleshood would be to imply that this statement applies to the extermination of the Jews. I don't think Cooper made this extrapolation, but rather various media outlets that are opposed to Cooper's political views.

 

The far more interesting point Cooper made was to say that Churchill was the villain of WWII because he was the one who went out of his way to turn a local Polish German war into a world war and he was the one who ensured the fighting of WWII continued after 1940 when Germany had sued for peace with Britain in a serious way, and of course he was the one who authorised the murder of civilians through "strategic bombing".

 

 

The Wannsee Conference was where the extermination of the Jews was planned by the Nazis. Cooper claimed the extermination of the Jews by the Nazis wasn't planned.

And you're the party who accused Democrats of being horrible people. I think you might want to look closer to home to identify at least one horrible person.

 

 

30 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The Wannsee Conference was where the extermination of the Jews was planned by the Nazis. Cooper claimed the extermination of the Jews by the Nazis wasn't planned

 

 

 

I am looking at the Daryl Cooper and Tucker Carlson interview right now, Daryl Cooper never made the claim you state "the extermination of the Jews by the Nazis wasn't planned".

 

What he said was as I quoted form the Jerusalem Post article above:

 

"“In 1941, they launched a war where they were completely unprepared to deal with the millions and millions of prisoners of war, of local political prisoners,” he said during the 138-minute conversation. Cooper then suggested that the murder of millions in the camps was an unintended consequence of Hitler’s unpreparedness for war"

 

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-818792

 

Daryl Cooper was clearly talking about prisoners of war and local political prisoners. This extrapolation to imply Daryl Cooper spoke about the extermination of the Jews is obviously false and was made by people with a political axe to grind.

 

People can see for themselves here. The fact that Youtube has not deleted this interview is a clear indication it is in no way about holocaust denial, "nazi revisionism" and such. If it were, Youtube would long have deleted the interview.

 

 

How come the Democrats did not choose Shapiro? Because they support the other side.

10 minutes ago, maesariang said:

How come the Democrats did not choose Shapiro? Because they support the other side.

What you think is a smoking gun really a water pistol. Got any actual evidence to prove antisemitism was behind the choice of Walz instead of Shapiro?

 

2 hours ago, ignore it said:

How dare Vance not protest against a couple of people who express their individual opinions freely on a media platform that is not required listening but is available free to anyone who cares to listen.

 

Gosh, Next thing you know people may start to form their own opinions.

 

Looking at the interview now, it's actually a very interesting interview about a number of things.  Daryl Cooper comes across as a very well read, very balanced and highly knowledgeable interview subject. He clearly did not say what some of the left wing media claim he said, but far more interesting things.

 

People can judge for themselves here: