Do you want President Harris to pardon Trump?

[Real Name Hidden]

Let's see how he incites domestic terrorists into violence when he loses again.  A spoiled rich kid who never learned to accept responsibility.  Let him serve his time, he's earned it.

[DougieMax]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

The real question is whether Trump should pardon Biden when the new DOJ rejects the recommendations of the Hur report.  And there's no Dem controlled senate standing firmly in the way of impeachment.

 

So far, the Supreme Court is pardoning Trump, and the appeals process will do the rest.  He won't need a pardon.

 

 

 

Outstanding and correct observation.

[Lacessit]

45 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

 

Explaining the legal system is not defending anyone.

 

 

The beauty of USA, innocent till proven guilty, with appeal process to make sure any conviction was legal.  

 

Only the final appeal decision matters, not the prosecution in the press 

You can't tell me Aileen Cannon dismissing the documents case is an example of the American legal system working well.

[DougieMax]

38 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Really. I have a good hunch that is actually the only reason he is a canidate

I disagree completely. Trump could have made all the misery he has endured for the last four years go away by simply retreating from politics. The entire sh!tshow of lawfare and abuse by law enforcement agencies was aimed at making him ineligible. When that failed, they tried to put a bullet in his head. Something truly evil and sick does not want him back in the White House.

[earlinclaifornia]

4 minutes ago, DougieMax said:

I disagree completely. Trump could have made all the misery he has endured for the last four years go away by simply retreating from politics. The entire sh!tshow of lawfare and abuse by law enforcement agencies was aimed at making him ineligible. When that failed, they tried to put a bullet in his head. Something truly evil and sick does not want him back in the White House.

So let me clarify as it is truely important to understand the real truth.

Democrates were behind the assassination attempt?

[G_Money]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

 

Harris is a criminal prosecutor. Not too many around that are soft on crime, or issue pardons.

 

Jailing Trump would send a clear message - time to end the BS.

California, New York, Illinois and many more DA’s are extremely soft on crime.  Especially for illegal alien criminals.

 

Read the news. Fox or equivalent.  CNN or MSNBC refuses to report.

[DougieMax]

7 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

So let me clarify as it is truely important to understand the real truth.

Democrates were behind the assassination attempt?

It looks like we will never know who was actually behind it. It could be a coalition of garbage republicans like Cheney and garbage democrats of which there are just too many to name. Add into the mix any coalition of letter agency heads and perhaps even foreign influences. Maybe powerful bankers and assorted other interests who are profiting from the combination of earning interest on printed money which is funneled into the defense industry for the manufacture of weapons for endless wars.

[CANSIAM]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

The real question is whether Trump should pardon Biden when the new DOJ rejects the recommendations of the Hur report.  And there's no Dem controlled senate standing firmly in the way of impeachment.

 

So far, the Supreme Court is pardoning Trump, and the appeals process will do the rest.  He won't need a pardon.

 

 

 

When Harris wins, there will be some Supreme Court adjustments.......

[CANSIAM]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I want to see Trump fleeing to Budapest.

How about Guyana with 100's of koolaide drums for his base.......😉

[CANSIAM]

38 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

You can't tell me Aileen Cannon dismissing the documents case is an example of the American legal system working well.

Spot on !!!

[metisdead]

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[impulse]

55 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

You can't tell me Aileen Cannon dismissing the documents case is an example of the American legal system working well.

 

Every president in my lifetime has gotten into a kerfuffle about taking their personal papers when they left the White House.  Trump's the only one that's been prosecuted for it.  Dismissing the case was the only way the American legal system could work properly.

[impulse]

3 hours ago, stevenl said:

I don't think he should be pardoned. But if anyone will, it will be biden on his final day in office.

 

Has Trump been convicted of any federal charges that the president can pardon him for?

 

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Every president in my lifetime has gotten into a kerfuffle about taking their personal papers when they left the White House.  Trump's the only one that's been prosecuted for it.  Dismissing the case was the only way the American legal system could work properly.

 

It's particularly funny because Biden had the same issue but was found too old and likeable to prosecute, whereas they threw the book at Trump. Talk about different rules apply.

Edited September 15 by Cameroni

[impulse]

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It's particularly funny because Biden had the same issue but was found too old and likeable to prosecute, whereas they threw the book at Trump. Talk about different rules apply.

 Someone is going to vomit out that the difference is that Biden cooperated, completely ignoring the fact that Biden admitted to having classified documents in the basement back in 2017 and didn't "cooperate" until 2022.  And then, only under duress.

 

I contend that the real difference is that president Trump had the authority to declassify anything he wanted.  Ex-senator Biden wasn't even allowed to have those documents outside the SCIF, much less in his wide open garage.

 

Edited September 15 by impulse

[stevenl]

17 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Has Trump been convicted of any federal charges that the president can pardon him for?

 

I recall a conviction is not necessary for a pardon. 

[impulse]

6 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I recall a conviction is not necessary for a pardon. 

 

Good point.  I concede that one to you. 

 

But the Dem elite won't let Harris pardon Trump, because it's not just about Trump.  It's a warning to any outsider not to crap in our mess kit, or we'll destroy you. 

 

Biden may pardon Trump, because the Dem elite have nothing they can hold over him.  And he's pretty pissed at them.  But if Harris is elected, she's got to worry about support from the Dem elite, and a 2nd term.  They can throw her under a bus and they'd be just as happy with Walz as their cutout.

 

[cjinchiangrai]

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

 

Explaining the legal system is not defending anyone.

 

 

The beauty of USA, innocent till proven guilty, with appeal process to make sure any conviction was legal.  

 

Only the final appeal decision matters, not the prosecution in the press 

True, but some of his appeals will not make it to his minions on the Supreme Court. New York, Georgia, Arizona, Michigan. He is in a lot more trouble than just Federal Court. He will be in court for the rest of his crooked life.

[simple1]

No, nor prison for trump. House Detention for life and removal from all social media platforms, including no interviews for public broadcast. Anyone disseminating his lies and misinformation, if convicted, to face jail time.

[Lacessit]

58 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Every president in my lifetime has gotten into a kerfuffle about taking their personal papers when they left the White House.  Trump's the only one that's been prosecuted for it.  Dismissing the case was the only way the American legal system could work properly.

AFAIK Trump is the only President who deliberately concealed the fact he had taken top secret papers, then lied about how many had been returned. Which led to the FBI raid.

 

Your last sentence has me wondering what you are smoking. It's obvious to anyone with a couple of brain cells Cannon is as bent as a boomerang.

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, simple1 said:

No, nor prison for trump. House Detention for life and removal from all social media platforms, including no interviews for public broadcast. Anyone disseminating his lies and misinformation, if convicted, to face jail time.

So much for freedom of speech.   Not to surprising from someone from OZ.  

 

I'd explain the 2nd sentence, but would be reported as off topic & deleted.

[DougieMax]

4 minutes ago, simple1 said:

No, nor prison for trump. House Detention for life and removal from all social media platforms, including no interviews for public broadcast. Anyone disseminating his lies and misinformation, if convicted, to face jail time.

Totally ridiculous. Not even Napoleon faced such ridiculous restrictions on his freedom after the loss of Waterloo. No, Trump is not Hitler, not Stalin, not Napoleon. Time for wokies to grow up about this.

[Inderpland]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

Every president in my lifetime has gotten into a kerfuffle about taking their personal papers when they left the White House.  Trump's the only one that's been prosecuted for it.  Dismissing the case was the only way the American legal system could work properly.

Biggest apples and oranges post in living memory. Well done!

[Inderpland]

I just realized that it's a beautiful Sunday, the sun is shining and here I am cooped up inside and reading MAGA filth.
No more. Heading up to Dongtan beach for some R&R.

I wish all my fellow non-MAGA cultists a great Sunday!🙂

[HappyExpat57]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

Every president in my lifetime has gotten into a kerfuffle about taking their personal papers when they left the White House.  Trump's the only one that's been prosecuted for it.  Dismissing the case was the only way the American legal system could work properly.

FFS! They weren't "personal papers," they were government documents, many of them extremely sensitive.

[simple1]

32 minutes ago, DougieMax said:

Totally ridiculous. Not even Napoleon faced such ridiculous restrictions on his freedom after the loss of Waterloo. No, Trump is not Hitler, not Stalin, not Napoleon. Time for wokies to grow up about this.

 Never trump!

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

Good point.  I concede that one to you. 

 

But the Dem elite won't let Harris pardon Trump, because it's not just about Trump.  It's a warning to any outsider not to crap in our mess kit, or we'll destroy you. 

 

Biden may pardon Trump, because the Dem elite have nothing they can hold over him.  And he's pretty pissed at them.  But if Harris is elected, she's got to worry about support from the Dem elite, and a 2nd term.  They can throw her under a bus and they'd be just as happy with Walz as their cutout.

 

Glad to hear you admit your earlier post was incorrect. But again that nonsense about the dem elite.

 

But Harris pardoning trump wouldn't make sense as i already said in one of the first posts in this thread.

[simple1]

48 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

So much for freedom of speech.   Not to surprising from someone from OZ.  

 

I'd explain the 2nd sentence, but would be reported as off topic & deleted.

 

IMO "Freedom of Speech" in the US context is poisonous and thoroughly abused. I bet the Founders never thought the likes of trump would be accepted as a President of the USA. IMO the Constitution should be completely revamped to reflect modern times, but the political environment is so corrupted it will not happen.. For sure the Constitution is not reflected in the behaviour of the current Republican Party, except a very few, they have totally failed to abide by their Oath of Office and not worthy of the title Congressmen / Senator.

Edited September 15 by simple1

[impulse]

8 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Glad to hear you admit your earlier post was incorrect. But again that nonsense about the dem elite.

 

But Harris pardoning trump wouldn't make sense as i already said in one of the first posts in this thread.

 

The point I was making is that the only thing he's been convicted of is a NY state crime.  The president can't pardon him there. 

 

The federal charges are running off him like water off a duck Springfield goose, due to SCOTUS decisions and conscientious judges... 

 

Ask Biden how he feels about Dem Elites...  I'd post links to the insider rumors, but they'd be from unapproved sources.  The MSM won't cover it until after Nov 6.  A curious sort could find them easily enough.

 

Edited September 15 by impulse

[Purdey]

It has nothing to do with whether he is a former president or not.

 If you can't do the time don't do the crime.