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2 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Yet again - demanding links to support opinions. 

No, purported facts...........🙄

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On 10/23/2024 at 8:03 PM, transam said:

Have you noticed that the die hard Trump supporters here are also supporters of Putin. 

Now I find that strangely interesting.....:whistling:

Dont forget that we are also accused of liking Hitler and white supremacists.

But maybe think a little (hard 4u I know) - tthey are accusations and being a Trump hater you believe them.

Hard to argue with someone that genuinely thinks anyone with an opposing view loves, Putin, Hitler and White Supremacists.

That is false assertions believed due to cognitive bias.

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4 hours ago, transam said:

No, purported facts...........🙄

As G_money said - Anyone can check google and see that Biden has made many racist statements over the years.

Why would anyone need 'proven links' when there are videos of him going back decades freely available on the net.

Remember - only links to 'approved' websites are allowed to be used to prove a point.

But that does not mean the point is wrong.. hewre is some links I hope are approved sources

 

 

 

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Re Trump:
"Unity" means nobody critizes him.

Re Vance:
"Man of extraordinary moral and intellectual flexibiity."
 

 

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Just now, watthong said:

Re Vance:
"Man of extraordinary moral and intellectual flexibiity."
 

And I would add, facial expressibility  as well..._

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16 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

As G_money said - Anyone can check google and see that Biden has made many racist statements over the years.

Why would anyone need 'proven links' when there are videos of him going back decades freely available on the net.

Remember - only links to 'approved' websites are allowed to be used to prove a point.

But that does not mean the point is wrong.. hewre is some links I hope are approved sources

 

 



At this late stage in the game, it truly spelsl desperation with this kind of word salad still being served up, with heavy "Vance" flavored dressing,and toppings from god knows where questionable sources.

 

1 hour ago, transam said:

I do not take G_Money seriously, end of.......:coffee1:

 

Absolutely.

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More good news for those who love Donald Trump.

 

The RNC has just won a massive election integrity victory, undermining unlawful ballot counting laws in some Democrat states. The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that mail-in ballots that arrive after Election Day cannot be counted under Federal Law. Circuit Judge Andrew S. Oldham ruled that “Congress statutorily designated a singular ‘day for the election’ of members of Congress and the appointment of presidential electors. Text, precedent, and historical practice confirm this ‘day for the election’ is the day by which ballots must be both cast by voters and received by state officials.”   The victory came after the RNC sued over Mississippi’s five-day deadline, which allowed late-arriving ballots to be still counted. The law went into effect during the COVID-19 pandemic. 

The GOP Just Secured a Massive Election Integrity Win

 

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19 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

As G_money said - Anyone can check google and see that Biden has made many racist statements over the years.

Why would anyone need 'proven links' when there are videos of him going back decades freely available on the net.

Remember - only links to 'approved' websites are allowed to be used to prove a point.

But that does not mean the point is wrong.. hewre is some links I hope are approved sources

 

 

 

If you are interested in ancient history:

 

Decades-Old Housing Discrimination Case Plagues Donald Trump

 

The Justice Department sued Donald Trump, his father, Fred, and Trump Management in order to obtain a settlement in which Trump and his father would promise not to discriminate. The case eventually was settled two years later after Trump tried to countersue the Justice Department for $100 million for making false statements. Those allegations were dismissed by the court.

 

"Donald started his career, back in 1973, being sued by the Justice Department for racial discrimination — because he would not rent apartments in one of his developments to African-Americans, and he made sure that the people who worked for him understood that was the policy," Clinton said on Monday night.

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This is the "America is a garbage can" Weave by Trump.

 

But I am posting this because of his claim that his speech the prior night in Las Vegas was seen by 29,000. He claimed they set the record for attendance.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_%26_Mack_Center

 

He had spoken at the Thomas & Mack Center, which holds 19,000 for sporting events.

 

President Donald Trump spoke at the Thomas & Mack Center for an hour and 22 minutes to a crowd of at least 8 ,000 people just talking about immigration the economy and tariffs.

 

Trump is a sick man.

 

On the other hand:

 

Kamala Harris visits Houston: Thousands attend rally featuring Beyonce, call for abortion rights

 

A Harris campaign official says over 30,000 are in attendance here at the Shell Energy Stadium in Houston. 

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One of the best things about Trump is his ability to ignore the hatred and personal attacks that the establishment media throw at him, time and time again.  Time and time again the lies and distortions against him by the Democrats and echoed by the MSM, which later turn out to actually not be true. And yet at the time they were claimed to be absolutely true. 

 

Things like the Russia Conspiracy, Racist, Fascist, (false claims) of Rapist, Will Start World War 3, Hates Immigrants, Started an Insurrection, bla bla bla - and their perennial favourites - Trump is a Threat to Democracy and he is Hitler.  But there is one (of many) that stands out because anyone with half a brain could see the lies and distortions - Trump called white supremacists in Charlottesville 'nice people'.   Lets go through those events using just one media Trump hating outlet 9Politico).

 

12 August 2017

Trump fails to condemn white supremacists in statement on Charlottesville violence - POLITICO

This and many other media articles about the event was so biased and laden with false claims, that many people believed Trump said the white supremacists and nazis were 'fine people'.  What was a group of protests by those who wanted to tear down the statute of Robert E Lee, and those who disagreed with that, was 'invaded' by white supremacists and nazi groups and the protests became violent.   But the media portrayed it as a white supremacist rally, and attacked Trump for saying there was nice people in the white supremacists and nazis protestors - which he did not.

 

15 August 2017

Full text: Trump’s comments on white supremacists, ‘alt-left’ in Charlottesville - POLITICO

Trump holds a press conference and one of the issues he is 'attacked' over is the Charlottesville tragedy. Despite trying to say he was not referring to the white supremacists or nazis when he said there was 'fine people on both sides', he was again misquoted and attacked in the media.   

 

The issue does not go away, and more and more the Democrat supporters believe Trump said white nationalists and nazis are good people. It is constantly brought up again and despite being debunked it is used by the Democrats and Media to attack Trump.

 

26 April 2019

Trump says he answered Charlottesville questions 'perfectly' - POLITICO

Trump on Friday defended his 2017 statement that there were “very fine people” on both sides of the deadly white supremacist protests in Charlottesville, Va., comments that recently came under fire again after former Vice President Joe Biden attacked Trump for them.

 

8 August 2019

Biden defiantly defends remarks about Trump and white supremacists - POLITICO

At the suggestion that Trump had condemned the actions of marching white supremacists, Biden grew adamant, wagging his finger as he described the demonstrators as hate-filled with “veins bulging.”  “No he did not, he walked out and he said — let’s get this straight — he said there were very fine people in both groups,”  Biden said as he slogged through a scrum of media and supporters at the fair. “They were chanting anti-Semitic slogans, carrying flags.”

 

21 June 2024 - SNOPES

No, Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists 'Very Fine People' | Snopes.com

In a news conference after the rally protesting the planned removal of a Confederate statue, Trump did say there were "very fine people on both sides," referring to the protesters and the counter protesters. He said in the same statement he wasn't talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who he said should be "condemned totally."

 

The Democrats and Media ran with the false narrative from 2017 to 2024, when they finally admitted it was fake news. But the damage was done - so many people thought it was true (and many still do). That is their plan - they know if you throw enough mud and do it often enough, then some will stick. It their game plan 101 - attack the opponent relentlessly - avoid talking policies and outcomes.  After 4 years of Biden/Harris, they are avoiding policies and outcomes - they are are attacking Trump - same playbook as they always do.  Democrats have always attacked the GOP Leader - it is what they do - they stir up their 'fan base' and that worked for them.  But not anymore - recent false rape allegations against Trump got no response, claiming Trump is Hitler and would start WW3 have been ignored. The Dems are in big trouble and they know it       

 

This was posted on August 14 2017 - it makes it very clear what Trump said - but this small news site made no impact.  The MSM and the Democrats also ignored this and others, and pushed the lies and distortions for years - and many people believed it.

https://qz.com/1053270/full-text-donald-trumps-statement-on-charlottesville

 

Before you condemn Trump as being a Hitler, have a think about it and ask yourself one question - are any of the stories about Trump really true, or are they merely Democratic political 'hit pieces' and propaganda - and being echoed by the MSM.

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1 minute ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

One of the best things about Trump is his ability to ignore the hatred and personal attacks that the establishment media throw at him, time and time again.  Time and time again the lies and distortions against him by the Democrats and echoed by the MSM, fail to actually be true. And yet at the time they were claimed to be absolutely true.  Things like the Russia Conspiracy, Racist, Fascist, (false claims) of Rapist, Will Start World War 3, Hates Immigrants, Started an Insurrection, bla bla bla - and their perennial favourites - Trump is a Threat to Democracy and he is Hitler.  But there is one (of many) that stands out because anyone with half a brain could see the lies and distortions - Trump called white supremacists in Charlottesville 'nice people'.   Lets go through those events using just one media Trump hating outlet 9Politico).

 

12 August 2017

Trump fails to condemn white supremacists in statement on Charlottesville violence - POLITICO

This and many other media articles about the event was so biased and laden with false claims, that many people believed Trump said the white supremacists and nazis were 'fine people'.  What was a group of protests by those who wanted to tear down the statute of Robert E Lee, and those who disagreed with that, was 'invaded' by white supremacists and nazi groups and the protests became violent.   But the media portrayed it as a white supremacist rally, and attacked Trump for saying there was nice people in the white supremacists and nazis protestors - which he did not.

 

15 August 2017

Full text: Trump’s comments on white supremacists, ‘alt-left’ in Charlottesville - POLITICO

Trump holds a press conference and one of the issues he is 'attacked' over is the Charlottesville tragedy. Despite trying to say he was not referring to the white supremacists or nazis when he said there was 'fine people on both sides', he was again misquoted and attacked in the media.   

 

The issue does not go away, and more and more the Democrat supporters believe Trump said white nationalists and nazis are good people. It is constantly brought up again and despite being debunked it is used by the Democrats and Media to attack Trump.

 

26 April 2019

Trump says he answered Charlottesville questions 'perfectly' - POLITICO

Trump on Friday defended his 2017 statement that there were “very fine people” on both sides of the deadly white supremacist protests in Charlottesville, Va., comments that recently came under fire again after former Vice President Joe Biden attacked Trump for them.

 

8 August 2019

Biden defiantly defends remarks about Trump and white supremacists - POLITICO

At the suggestion that Trump had condemned the actions of marching white supremacists, Biden grew adamant, wagging his finger as he described the demonstrators as hate-filled with “veins bulging.”  “No he did not, he walked out and he said — let’s get this straight — he said there were very fine people in both groups,”  Biden said as he slogged through a scrum of media and supporters at the fair. “They were chanting anti-Semitic slogans, carrying flags.”

 

21 June 2024 - SNOPES

No, Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists 'Very Fine People' | Snopes.com

In a news conference after the rally protesting the planned removal of a Confederate statue, Trump did say there were "very fine people on both sides," referring to the protesters and the counter protesters. He said in the same statement he wasn't talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who he said should be "condemned totally."

 

The Democrats and Media ran with the false narrative from 2017 to 2024, when they finally admitted it was fake news. But the damage was done - so many people thought it was true.    

 

This was posted on August 14 2017 - it was clear what Trump said - but this small news site made no impact.

The MSM and the Democrats pushed the lies and distortions for years - and many people believed it.

https://qz.com/1053270/full-text-donald-trumps-statement-on-charlottesville

 

Before you condemn Trump as being a Hitler, have a think about it and ask yourself one question - are any of the stories about Trump really true, or are they merely Democratic political 'hit pieces' and propaganda - echoed by the MSM.   

All he can do is ignore them, as he cannot control his mouth, to the horror of his Republican chums..........😱

Though, fortunately, many of his 'comrades' have jumped ship, as there is no way they can follow the bloke......:saai:

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22 hours ago, transam said:

All he can do is ignore them, as he cannot control his mouth, to the horror of his Republican chums..........😱

Though, fortunately, many of his 'comrades' have jumped ship, as there is no way they can follow the bloke......:saai:

We will take Tulsi Gabbard any day - you can have Liz Cheney forever.

 

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3 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

We will take Tulsi Gabbard any day - you can have Liz Cheney forever.

 

You Trump lot will accept anything you can get to smooth out Trumps uncontrollable mouth...🤪

 

Guard your fish ponds, they're eating your Koi..........🤣

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I think Trump made a great call choosing JD Vance - Yesterday I watched (most) of his interview with Rogan, and he was extremely good.  Looks like a long term POTUS candidate - who knows, maybe in 4 years time with Tulsi Gabbard as his running mate. Plus the same Trump appointed team who will have been making the country better for the last 4 years. The best campaign slogan has always been 'Four More Years', and that is something that Harris has been trying to deny and hide from. 

 

Trump is looking good in States he needs to win that Biden won last time (based on Trafalgar Group Poll)

 

@earlinclaifornia Mate - you better get that new avatar prepared 😁

 

 

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Trafalgar Group – Nationally Recognized Polling & Marketing Strategy

 

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3 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

I assume you know the background of that one polling Trafalgar like I do.

Me thinks she may sweep the whole lot.  My response more likely.Here you go !

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Right back at ya buddy

 

Nick Adams | Kamala Harris is an IDIOT! | Instagram

 

 

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On 10/27/2024 at 3:04 PM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

One of the best things about Trump is his ability to ignore the hatred and personal attacks that the establishment media throw at him, time and time again.  Time and time again the lies and distortions against him by the Democrats and echoed by the MSM, which later turn out to actually not be true. And yet at the time they were claimed to be absolutely true. 

 

Things like the Russia Conspiracy, Racist, Fascist, (false claims) of Rapist, Will Start World War 3, Hates Immigrants, Started an Insurrection, bla bla bla - and their perennial favourites - Trump is a Threat to Democracy and he is Hitler.  But there is one (of many) that stands out because anyone with half a brain could see the lies and distortions - Trump called white supremacists in Charlottesville 'nice people'.   Lets go through those events using just one media Trump hating outlet 9Politico).

 

12 August 2017

Trump fails to condemn white supremacists in statement on Charlottesville violence - POLITICO

This and many other media articles about the event was so biased and laden with false claims, that many people believed Trump said the white supremacists and nazis were 'fine people'.  What was a group of protests by those who wanted to tear down the statute of Robert E Lee, and those who disagreed with that, was 'invaded' by white supremacists and nazi groups and the protests became violent.   But the media portrayed it as a white supremacist rally, and attacked Trump for saying there was nice people in the white supremacists and nazis protestors - which he did not.

 

15 August 2017

Full text: Trump’s comments on white supremacists, ‘alt-left’ in Charlottesville - POLITICO

Trump holds a press conference and one of the issues he is 'attacked' over is the Charlottesville tragedy. Despite trying to say he was not referring to the white supremacists or nazis when he said there was 'fine people on both sides', he was again misquoted and attacked in the media.   

 

The issue does not go away, and more and more the Democrat supporters believe Trump said white nationalists and nazis are good people. It is constantly brought up again and despite being debunked it is used by the Democrats and Media to attack Trump.

 

26 April 2019

Trump says he answered Charlottesville questions 'perfectly' - POLITICO

Trump on Friday defended his 2017 statement that there were “very fine people” on both sides of the deadly white supremacist protests in Charlottesville, Va., comments that recently came under fire again after former Vice President Joe Biden attacked Trump for them.

 

8 August 2019

Biden defiantly defends remarks about Trump and white supremacists - POLITICO

At the suggestion that Trump had condemned the actions of marching white supremacists, Biden grew adamant, wagging his finger as he described the demonstrators as hate-filled with “veins bulging.”  “No he did not, he walked out and he said — let’s get this straight — he said there were very fine people in both groups,”  Biden said as he slogged through a scrum of media and supporters at the fair. “They were chanting anti-Semitic slogans, carrying flags.”

 

21 June 2024 - SNOPES

No, Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists 'Very Fine People' | Snopes.com

In a news conference after the rally protesting the planned removal of a Confederate statue, Trump did say there were "very fine people on both sides," referring to the protesters and the counter protesters. He said in the same statement he wasn't talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who he said should be "condemned totally."

 

The Democrats and Media ran with the false narrative from 2017 to 2024, when they finally admitted it was fake news. But the damage was done - so many people thought it was true (and many still do). That is their plan - they know if you throw enough mud and do it often enough, then some will stick. It their game plan 101 - attack the opponent relentlessly - avoid talking policies and outcomes.  After 4 years of Biden/Harris, they are avoiding policies and outcomes - they are are attacking Trump - same playbook as they always do.  Democrats have always attacked the GOP Leader - it is what they do - they stir up their 'fan base' and that worked for them.  But not anymore - recent false rape allegations against Trump got no response, claiming Trump is Hitler and would start WW3 have been ignored. The Dems are in big trouble and they know it       

 

This was posted on August 14 2017 - it makes it very clear what Trump said - but this small news site made no impact.  The MSM and the Democrats also ignored this and others, and pushed the lies and distortions for years - and many people believed it.

https://qz.com/1053270/full-text-donald-trumps-statement-on-charlottesville

 

Before you condemn Trump as being a Hitler, have a think about it and ask yourself one question - are any of the stories about Trump really true, or are they merely Democratic political 'hit pieces' and propaganda - and being echoed by the MSM.

 

You've convinced me....he has, it seems, been sent by God.

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On 10/28/2024 at 1:59 PM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

We will take Tulsi Gabbard any day - you can have Liz Cheney forever.

 

Chaney is a warmonger like her dad!

The old dem party would of never accepted her as she is now!

She’s the epitome of a useful idiot!

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1 minute ago, riclag said:

Chaney is a warmonger like her dad!

The old dem party would of never accepted her as she is now!

She’s the epitome of a useful idiot!

 

...would have....would have

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On 9/18/2024 at 12:09 PM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

 

 

Sure - if you are a woke liberal and you support Palestine, Illegal Immigrants and other radical minorities, and you are a globalist (socialist) who loves the UN and EU, and leaders like Macron, Trudea, Starmer, Scholz, and Albanese etc etc, and unelected socialists like Von Der Leyen, António Guterres and Schwab etc etc. -  then you will hate what Trump is going to do.  But I think that the majority are going to see through the media lies and how much a disaster another 4 (or even 8 ) years of Bidenomics would be. 

 

I am amazed, most foreigners write German words starting with a lowercase letter when an uppercase is required. You have managed the opposite.

Her name is “ von der Leyen” .  

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Polls are pretty much useless at this point, but this one is so shocking, it's interesting:

 

Iowa Poll: Kamala Harris leapfrogs Donald Trump to take lead near Election Day.

 

I am not predicting that Harris takes Iowa. After all, this is just one poll.

 

But, it is backed up by early voting data showing a tight race:

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/iowa-results

 

55% of early voters are female. Women are going to vote for Harris whether Trump likes it or not.

 

Party affiliation is 50/50 now.

 

If I were running the Trump campaign, I would be throwing resources at Iowa right now. Election Day turnout is going to decide Iowa, as no one has a firewall.

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