Tens of thousands of illegal immigrants with sexual assault, murder convictions roaming US

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Some of the other bogus anti-immigrant nonsense topics inspired by Trump lately and dutifully posted to this forum by his sycophants:

 

"PolitiFact has debunked numerous claims about immigrants and crime:

 

There’s no evidence Haitian immigrants are eating pets, wildlife in Springfield

...

A Venezuelan gang takeover in Aurora, Colorado? City officials, residents say no

...

Reports about 32 Venezuelan armed migrants taking over a Chicago building are fake"

...

 

etc. etc. etc.

 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/sep/27/whats-behind-recent-false-claims-about-immigrants/

 

 

 

[SingAPorn]

Same in Europe and recently another innocent young college student murdered and raped by a illegal migrant as France was not able to expel the chap despite his heavy past and sentencing for rape and violence. The consular pass did not arrive in time that is a document needed to expel foreigners as they destroy their passports beforehand.

 

By letting the borders open, by allowing those left wing woke XXL ships to assist the migrants and bring them in Europe and not plainly rescuing the migrands but sending them back to their port of origin, Europe is destroying itself, it's identity and putting it's people at risk. The EU has reached it's limits and is plainly a servant of NATO and the USA.

[Inderpland]

4 minutes ago, SingAPorn said:

Same in Europe and recently another innocent young college student murdered and raped by a illegal migrant as France was not able to expel the chap despite his heavy past and sentencing for rape and violence. The consular pass did not arrive in time that is a document needed to expel foreigners as they destroy their passports beforehand.

 

By letting the borders open, by allowing those left wing woke XXL ships to assist the migrants and bring them in Europe and not plainly rescuing the migrands but sending them back to their port of origin, Europe is destroying itself, it's identity and putting it's people at risk. The EU has reached it's limits and is plainly a servant of NATO and the USA.

Don't forget the international cabal of blood drinking and baby eating dems led by the anti-christ himself, Soros!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Also, as best as I can read the ICE communication contained within the Fox News report that's linked in the OP, the ICE document does NOT seem to indicate WHEN all the supposed undocumented immigrants with criminal histories in their count came into the U.S. or what period of time/years their count covers.

 

Does the count reflect entries during the Biden admin, during the Trump admin, or even prior?  On its face, the ICE communication doesn't seem to say.

 

But the document does say in regards to recent activity:

 

"From mid-May 2023 through the end of July 2024, DHS removed or returned more than 893,600 individuals, including more than 138,300 individuals in family units. The majority of all individuals encountered at the Southwest Border over the past three years have been removed, returned, or expelled." [emphasis added]

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tens-thousands-illegal-immigrants-sexual-assault-homicide-convictions-roaming-us-streets

 

 

[Keep Right]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Non citizens can't and don't vote.

Latinos are not a democratic party monolith.

So you're spreading misinformation. 

It appears that you are not doing your research:

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/143-democrats-let-noncitizens-vote/

 

 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

It appears that you are not doing your research:

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/143-democrats-let-noncitizens-vote/

 

 

Bull. Shame on you.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Not like the Republicans and Fox/Hannity haven't presented misleading data and made false claims on crimes and undocumented immigrants before....

 

 

March 23, 2018

 

"Four years ago, then-Gov. Rick Perry misrepresented state-posted numbers and inaccurately claimed that thousands of Texas murders had lately been committed by unauthorized immigrants.

 

More recently, Fox News commentator Sean Hannity drew our attention when he dipped into the same pool of figures on his March 7, 2018 program...

...

A couple of outside criminologists who reviewed the DPS-posted information at our request told us the presented tally of charges--not convictions--did not support Perry’s attribution of homicides to immigrants.

 

(more)

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/mar/23/sean-hannity/sean-hannity-642000-crimes-committed-immigrants-il/

 

 

 

 

 

[riclag]

26 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

It appears that you are not doing your research:

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/143-democrats-let-noncitizens-vote/

 

 

Recently a migrant  crime bill came to the floor of the house and passed but unfortunately for dems, 158 voted against it!!I ‘d love to see Nancy 

Mace the Gop sponsor of the crime bill

hook these dems up in a Trump campaign Swing State advertisement tying them and thousands upon thousands of convicted murderers being allowed in! It would be disastrous for their future office hopes imop.

https://www.newsweek.com/full-list158-dems-voted-against-sex-crime-ban-immigrants-1956261

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Dan O said:

Horse sh!t.  Illegals are not allowed to vote so don't spread lies

 

They're not allowed to rape or murder people, either.  But here we are...

 

Arizona provides a case study for the long-running attempts by Republicans to prohibit noncitizen voting.

 

Under a 2004 voter-approved initiative, Arizona required a driver’s license, birth certificate, passport or other similar document to approve a federal voter registration application. But the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2013 that Arizona cannot require documentary proof of citizenship for people to vote in federal elections.

 

The state responded by creating two classes of voters. For state and local elections, voters must provide proof of citizenship when they register or have it on file with the state. But because that cannot be required in presidential and congressional elections, tens of thousands of voters who have not provided proof of citizenship are registered only for federal elections.

 

Just wondering how Arizona (or any state for that matter) can pinky swear that non-citizens are not voting in federal elections if they can't even confirm whether they're citizens?

 

https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/elections/2024/illegal-voting-by-noncitizens-is-rare-yet-republicans-are-making-it-a-major-issue-this-election/

 

 

[Inderpland]

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

They're not allowed to rape or murder people, either.  But here we are...

Yes, and legals aren't allowed to shoot school children either. But here we are....

[impulse]

4 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

Yes, and legals aren't allowed to shoot school children either. But here we are....

 

You're kinda proving my point that just because there's a law against it, doesn't mean it's not happening. 

 

And with all the NGO tax money being spent to provide ID to illegals, it's not hard to imagine that a lot of them are also being registered to vote at the same time they sign up for a driver's license and free stuff.

 

[Inderpland]

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

You're kinda proving my point that just because there's a law against it, doesn't mean it's not happening. 

 

And with all the NGO tax money being spent to provide ID to illegals, it's not hard to imagine that a lot of them are also being registered to vote at the same time they sign up for a driver's license and free stuff.

 

I'm pretty sure someone from the right has looked long and hard at this already, because that would have been gold for the MAGA movement.

And since there's nothing out there it's quite easy to come to the conclusion that your imaginations are incorrect.

[Dan O]

59 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

You're kinda proving my point that just because there's a law against it, doesn't mean it's not happening. 

 

And with all the NGO tax money being spent to provide ID to illegals, it's not hard to imagine that a lot of them are also being registered to vote at the same time they sign up for a driver's license and free stuff.

 

Keep grabbing at straws. Just because there's a law doesn't mean it is happening, certainly in any significant numbers. Im sure if you check you'll find illegal votes for Republicans as well in the same quantities.

 

Show some proof of NGO's providing ID to illegals. You really are struggling to have validity 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Also, as best as I can read the ICE communication contained within the Fox News report that's linked in the OP, the ICE document does NOT seem to indicate WHEN all the supposed undocumented immigrants with criminal histories in their count came into the U.S. or what period of time/years their count covers.

 

Does the count reflect entries during the Biden admin, during the Trump admin, or even prior?  On its face, the ICE communication doesn't seem to say.

 

 

A bit more clarity now on the question of arrival timing regarding the undocumented individuals recently reported by ICE as having criminal histories, per NBC News:

 

More than 13,000 immigrants convicted of homicide here or abroad are living freely in the U.S., ICE says

Two law enforcement officials familiar with the data said many of the migrants on the ICE list crossed into the U.S. under previous administrations.

 

Sept. 28, 2024

...

"It is not clear when the first migrant of the 13,000 crossed into the U.S. Two law enforcement officials familiar with the data told NBC News many of the migrants on ICE’s non-detained docket, including serious criminals, crossed into the U.S. under previous administrations, including former President Donald Trump’s."

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/13000-immigrants-convicted-homicide-living-freely-us-ice-data-rcna173125

 

Maybe Trump and Co. ought to be a bit more careful before they continue pointing the blame finger at others regarding undocumented immigrants with criminal histories.

 

 

 

[Danderman123]

11 hours ago, riclag said:

Bad news for the flip flopping harris .

 

Shocking numbers:

 

"As of July 21, 2024, there were 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on ICE’s national docket—13,099 criminally convicted MURDERS!" Gonzales said in a statement. "Americans deserve to be SAFE in our own communities."

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tens-thousands-illegal-immigrants-sexual-assault-homicide-convictions-roaming-us-streets

 

 

 

How many Farangs in Thailand have criminal histories or commit crimes in Thailand?

 

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

 

You're kinda proving my point that just because there's a law against it, doesn't mean it's not happening. 

 

And with all the NGO tax money being spent to provide ID to illegals, it's not hard to imagine that a lot of them are also being registered to vote at the same time they sign up for a driver's license and free stuff.

 

You have a vivid imagination.

[jerrymahoney]

10 hours ago, riclag said:

Recently a migrant  crime bill came to the floor of the house and passed but unfortunately for dems, 158 voted against it!!

Congresswoman Nancy Mace told Fox News Digital hours before the vote that she "100%" anticipated Democrats voting against her bill.

 

"If you vote against it, you're sexist against women," Mace declared.

 

https://mace.house.gov/media/in-the-news/icymi-158-dems-vote-against-bill-deport-illegal-immigrants-who-commit-sex-crimes

 

NYTimes headline 19 SEP 2024

 

It’s Groundhog Day. It’s Anti-Woke Week. It’s Messaging Bill Fall.
Lawmakers are forcing each other to take unpopular votes on bills destined to go nowhere.

[tilaceer]

13 hours ago, riclag said:

Recently a migrant  crime bill came to the floor of the house and passed but unfortunately for dems, 158 voted against it!!I ‘d love to see Nancy 

Mace the Gop sponsor of the crime bill

hook these dems up in a Trump campaign Swing State advertisement tying them and thousands upon thousands of convicted murderers being allowed in! It would be disastrous for their future office hopes imop.

https://www.newsweek.com/full-list158-dems-voted-against-sex-crime-ban-immigrants-1956261

So how is this new bill differ an improvement from  the legislation that is already in place ?
This question has been asked multiple times. You ignore this question and yet continue to advocate what a great bill it is, and how despicable 158 Dems are ?
Bet you are not going to answer it this time either.
Political posturing.

[simple1]

20 hours ago, Jingthing said:

So mostly jaywalkers then.

 

May be so, but a lot with actual criminal behaviour. I assume they haven't been deported due to lack of resources, legislation etc during both sides of the political spectrum in power.

 

This includes criminal foreign nationals convicted of, or charged with, homicide (14,914), sexual assault (20,061), assault (105,146), kidnapping (3,372), and commercialized sexual offenses, including sex trafficking (3,971).

 

https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/09/28/ice-662000-criminal-foreign-nationals-to-be-deported-are-living-free-nationwide/

[Hanaguma]

People touting the "great bipartisan immigration bill" have convenient amnesia.

 

They forget that Biden reversed most of Trump's effective executive orders on immigration virtually on day one of his administration.

They forget that VP Harris was appointed, on March 24 2021, to stem the flow of immigrants to the southern border.

They forget that illegal immigration under Trump was a fraction of the ten MILLION plus under Biden. 

They forget that every single illegal who crosses the southern border pays thousands of dollars to cartels and human traffickers.

They forget that half of the women and girls who attempt the journey are raped. Often repeatedly. 

 

They forget a lot, until election season.

[Dan O]

16 hours ago, SingAPorn said:

Same in Europe and recently another innocent young college student murdered and raped by a illegal migrant as France was not able to expel the chap despite his heavy past and sentencing for rape and violence. The consular pass did not arrive in time that is a document needed to expel foreigners as they destroy their passports beforehand.

 

By letting the borders open, by allowing those left wing woke XXL ships to assist the migrants and bring them in Europe and not plainly rescuing the migrands but sending them back to their port of origin, Europe is destroying itself, it's identity and putting it's people at risk. The EU has reached it's limits and is plainly a servant of NATO and the USA.

You have no clue what your talking about and trying to paint a picture while looking thru binoculars. Your view is so slim but your  ideas are huge.  Stay with observing your own country first

[riclag]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

People touting the "great bipartisan immigration bill" have convenient amnesia.

 

They forget that Biden reversed most of Trump's effective executive orders on immigration virtually on day one of his administration.

They forget that VP Harris was appointed, on March 24 2021, to stem the flow of immigrants to the southern border.

They forget that illegal immigration under Trump was a fraction of the ten MILLION plus under Biden. 

They forget that every single illegal who crosses the southern border pays thousands of dollars to cartels and human traffickers.

They forget that half of the women and girls who attempt the journey are raped. Often repeatedly. 

 

They forget a lot, until election season.

Thanks for mentioning  those historical  events !

I was curious how much time the Lefts media friends would devote towards 

Reporting ( Ice Letter) the dangerous events that have occurred under the current administration .

 

Both ABC's "World News Tonight," and the "CBS Evening News" failed to mention any of the findings that ICE presented in a letter to Congress this week that was reported by a variety of other outlets on Friday. They simply covered Vice President Kamala Harris’ trip to Arizona’s border with Mexico and touted her policy proposals for immigration.

Only NBC News' evening newscast mentioned the letter, though it didn’t cover the entire scope of the findings – only reporting that "more than 13,000 migrants previously convicted of homicide are currently free inside the US”.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/network-evening-newscasts-barely-mention-153134974.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-13-000-immigrants-convicted-153000647.html

 

 

[billd766]

23 hours ago, riclag said:

Trump was right again  .

Thousands upon thousands of murderers have been  released into the country!

 

If these "murderers', so claimed by both you and Trump are both illegal and unregistered in the USA. How come both you and Trump seem to know the numbers, and how many of them are murderers?

[Inderpland]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

People touting the "great bipartisan immigration bill" have convenient amnesia.

 

They forget that Biden reversed most of Trump's effective executive orders on immigration virtually on day one of his administration.

They forget that VP Harris was appointed, on March 24 2021, to stem the flow of immigrants to the southern border.

They forget that illegal immigration under Trump was a fraction of the ten MILLION plus under Biden. 

They forget that every single illegal who crosses the southern border pays thousands of dollars to cartels and human traffickers.

They forget that half of the women and girls who attempt the journey are raped. Often repeatedly. 

 

They forget a lot, until election season.

But election season is upon us. Does that mean they remember now?

[billd766]

22 hours ago, Inderpland said:

That's not true. Thailand makes all foreigners report their address every 3 months and that has totally fixed the problem! 

 

Really!!!

 

And that has totally fixed the problem?

 

And how many citizens from Myanmar, Cambodia and Laos are illegally in Thailand? How many western foreigners are arrested every month for working illegally and overstaying their visas.

[Inderpland]

13 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

Really!!!

 

And that has totally fixed the problem?

 

And how many citizens from Myanmar, Cambodia and Laos are illegally in Thailand? How many western foreigners are arrested every month for working illegally and overstaying their visas.

I think you forgot to switch on your irony detector this morning.🙂

[impulse]

32 minutes ago, billd766 said:

If these "murderers', so claimed by both you and Trump are both illegal and unregistered in the USA. How come both you and Trump seem to know the numbers, and how many of them are murderers?

 

Ask ICE.

 

More than 13,000 immigrants convicted of homicide here or abroad are living freely in the U.S., ICE says

 

During a campaign stop in Michigan on Friday, Trump used the data to criticize Vice President Kamala Harris for current immigration policies.

 

“I can finally look at them and say ‘I told you so,’ to the fake news,” Trump said. “These are hard, tough, vicious criminals that are free to roam in our country.”

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/28/immigrants-ice-report-thirteen-thousand-homicide-us-border-migration.html

[Inderpland]

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Ask ICE.

 

More than 13,000 immigrants convicted of homicide here or abroad are living freely in the U.S., ICE says

 

During a campaign stop in Michigan on Friday, Trump used the data to criticize Vice President Kamala Harris for current immigration policies.

 

“I can finally look at them and say ‘I told you so,’ to the fake news,” Trump said. “These are hard, tough, vicious criminals that are free to roam in our country.”

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/28/immigrants-ice-report-thirteen-thousand-homicide-us-border-migration.html

From your linked article:

 

'It is not clear when the first migrant of the 13,000 crossed into the U.S. Two law enforcement officials familiar with the data told NBC News many of the migrants on ICE’s non-detained docket, including serious criminals, crossed into the U.S. under previous administrations, including former President Donald Trump’s.'

 

A piece of friendly advice; read the entire article you're linking to, not only the big shiny headline.

[riclag]

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Ask ICE.

 

More than 13,000 immigrants convicted of homicide here or abroad are living freely in the U.S., ICE says

 

During a campaign stop in Michigan on Friday, Trump used the data to criticize Vice President Kamala Harris for current immigration policies.

 

“I can finally look at them and say ‘I told you so,’ to the fake news,” Trump said. “These are hard, tough, vicious criminals that are free to roam in our country.”

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/28/immigrants-ice-report-thirteen-thousand-homicide-us-border-migration.html

When Trump becomes President 

I hope the leftist media will allow HIS ADMINISTRATION fair reporting when it comes time to deport these hard core migrant  criminals!

[impulse]

7 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

A piece of friendly advice; read the entire article you're linking to, not only the big shiny headline.

 

I read it.  The entire thing.  But I don't cherry pick what I link.

 

BTW, I'm interested in hearing how many of them came in under Trump.  But I doubt CNBC wants that number out there...