Phuket taxi driver hits foreign man on airport zebra crossing

[brianthainess]

1 minute ago, Judum said:

I live in England I suppose depends what part of uk you live but I feel safer in Thailand always have done apart from being scratched by lady boys no priblems

Those LBs are an unpredictable animal species, you could end up with a stiletto in the back of your head and set upon by a whole gaggle of them, just for refusing their advances, as happens here. 

[bbbbooboo]

hmm…. use a pedestrian crossing in Thailand at your peril. I think i see drivers here speed up when they see someone crossing, but it might be my imagination?

[steven100]

1 hour ago, Dr B said:

Did you take the time to look at the photograph in the OP?

 

yes, I seen the photo ...  your point is Doc   ?

[LoudHailer]

Crosswalks in Thailand are used for target practice by Thai drivers. Stopping appears "optional."

 

Foreigners on home soil are used to vehicles stopping when pedestrians approach a crosswalk. Failure to do so, in New Jersey, for example, may subject the driver to $200 fine plus court costs. Violations in Australia and Europe can be more severe. Striking a person with a vehicle on a crosswalk could mean jail time.  

[brianthainess]

5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

and all drivers on the roads know when there's a zebra crossing coming up (signs on the side of the road and overhead signs). 

As I said in a previous post how would one be legally responsible for hitting a pedestrian 'on a crossing' if there are no warning signs, like on Koh Chang  where there are none on the whole Island. Makes me also wonder if any budget for them has been allocated, but 'gone elsewhere' like fallen into a deep pocket. 

[SiSePuede419]

Silly man!

 

Instead of using the zoo animal crossing, he should have used the "crosswalk". 😭

 

A crosswalk is a marked or unmarked path across a street or road that allows pedestrians to cross safely.

[Man Mart]

This is unacceptable and pressure must be put upon the authorities to sort this situation out. I lived in BKK for 10 years and crossing the road in Sukhumvit was like taking the walk of death. Complain to the Deaprtment of Land and. Transport or nothing will change!

[lordgrinz]

12 minutes ago, bbbbooboo said:

hmm…. use a pedestrian crossing in Thailand at your peril. I think i see drivers here speed up when they see someone crossing, but it might be my imagination?

 

No it's not your imagination, it's exactly the situation that got the black BMW in my previous post a nice dent her door.

[MikeandDow]

6 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

As I said in a previous post how would one be legally responsible for hitting a pedestrian 'on a crossing' if there are no warning signs, like on Koh Chang  where there are none on the whole Island. Makes me also wonder if any budget for them has been allocated, but 'gone elsewhere' like fallen into a deep pocket. 

 If there are No warning signs No marking  and if a pedestrian crosses the road that is "Jaywalking" and the pedestrian can be prosecuted 

[brianthainess]

Just now, Man Mart said:

This is unacceptable and pressure must be put upon the authorities to sort this situation out. I lived in BKK for 10 years and crossing the road in Sukhumvit was like taking the walk of death. Complain to the Deaprtment of Land and. Transport or nothing will change!

How are they going to get the cops to do their job ? It seems the only way here to get any attention is to make vid it and put it on Facebook, then the cops may have a crackdown for a day or two, then back to 'normal'.

[lordgrinz]

11 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

As I said in a previous post how would one be legally responsible for hitting a pedestrian 'on a crossing' if there are no warning signs, like on Koh Chang  where there are none on the whole Island. Makes me also wonder if any budget for them has been allocated, but 'gone elsewhere' like fallen into a deep pocket. 

 

I don't know about there, but here there are many blue triangle Zebra crossing signs, warning drivers, and obviously the Zebra crossing itself. The drivers are being warned that the area is a Pedestrian Crossing "ZONE", not just one specific crossing, all drivers should use caution.....AND SLOW DOWN AND LOOK!

[brianthainess]

4 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

 If there are No warning signs No marking  and if a pedestrian crosses the road that is "Jaywalking" and the pedestrian can be prosecuted 

Is Jaywalking even a crime here ? 

[steven100]

3 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

 If there are No warning signs No marking  and if a pedestrian crosses the road that is "Jaywalking" and the pedestrian can be prosecuted 

No warning signs installed ....   but the road is painted as a zebra crossing .    That's what he's saying is on Koh Chang. 

[lordgrinz]

2 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

How are they going to get the cops to do their job ? It seems the only way here to get any attention is to make vid it and put it on Facebook, then the cops may have a crackdown for a day or two, then back to 'normal'.

 

I got a plan, the government should immediately reduce the salary of all RTP employees, then tell them if they want to earn more then they can get out on the streets and make them safer. Use the money made on tickets and towing to pay for bonuses to those RTP stations who show by results that they are making the public safer for drivers and pedestrians alike.

[brianthainess]

1 minute ago, lordgrinz said:

 

I don't know about there, but here there are many blue triangle Zebra crossing signs, warning drivers, and obviously the Zebra crossing itself. The drivers are being warned that the area is a Pedestrian Crossing "ZONE", not just one specific crossing, all drivers should use caution.....AND SLOW DOWN AND LOOK!

As I said None here, come down the 'mountain' into White Sand and right around a blind bend is a crossing no warning signs whatsoever. It's the resort guard's in their reflective vest (if they have one on that day) that will hold up their hand to stop or wave you through.  

[Judum]

28 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

The last two lines confuse the situation (educated pedestrians need to be educated again or should not be so disrespectful by forcing drivers to stop) , this is not what is required by Thai law and in most other countries.

 

Thailand is the same as 99% - 100% of countries; drivers must stop and all drivers on the roads know when there's a zebra crossing coming up (signs on the side of the road and overhead signs). 

 

Pedestrians need to cross roads and pedestrians have rights to cross with safety, and drivers must respect pedestrians rights. 

 

Just 2 examples; Japan and Australia, there's cctv everywhere, if you don't stop you will be tracked down and the punishments are severe, very big fines and automatic loss of license. I'm aware of one Brit guy driving in Osaka, Japan and drunk (had a license acceptable in Japan). He was held and deported the next day, never allowed to enter Japan again. He was from my company.

 

The company received an order to within 48 hrs gather all foreign employees (about 30 engineers) for a lecture in English about driving laws in Japan.

 

After the lecture the Japanese CEO spoke (good English), he was furious that the name of the company had appeared in the news along with the details of a foreigner caught drunk driving. He ordered that all foreigners have US$100 deducted from their next pay and paid to a charity. 

 

My own Japanese staff gathered together and asked me to promise that I would never drive after drinking and they gave me a list of my staff members (about 10) and photos and mobile numbers. I was asked to promise I would call someone on the list if I had more than one drink.

 

I did socialise with my staff and the other foreigners but I never had even 1 drink after that. 

 

In Australia traffic fines are very severe, I'm aware of a lady being stopped for erratic driving, she was drunk, she was fined heavily and license suspended for 6 months.

 

Later, she was with her husband, husband stopped at a mini mart but had to walk a short distance to the shop. The road had a strong slant. This was about 3 months into the wives license suspension.

 

Suddenly many of the parked cars departed so the wife moved herself over to the drivers seat, released the hand brake and let the car roll down the hill twenty+ metres.

 

A police cruiser with hi-tech spotted the car number plate and the police stopped and  asked for her license and quickly discovered her license was suspended.

 

An hour later she was in front of a magistrate who said 'you can spend the remaining 3 months of your suspension in jail plus an extra 30 days in jail'. 

 

In uk you don't have to stop if someone's waiting ,also for instance a bus Is coming along and a pedestrian chose to cross without warning or waiting the bus has to harsh break ckuks hurt passengers,  you don't have to stop at all pedestrians who think otherwise are rude and don't give a damn when growing up was always taught wait at zebra crossing toll cars vans,stop for you if you decide to cross the road forcing vehicles to stop you should be arrested but can't be jailed as the uk is so screwed there is no more room if you Google uk laws for zebra there it's say don't have to stop ie link 

[brianthainess]

3 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

I got a plan, the government should immediately reduce the salary of all RTP employees, then tell them if they want to earn more then they can get out on the streets and make them safer. Use the money made on tickets and towing to pay for bonuses to those RTP stations who show by results that they are making the public safer for drivers and pedestrians alike.

Oh don't worry they have plenty of ways to 'Earn' more already. 

[brianthainess]

1 minute ago, Judum said:

In uk you don't have to stop if someone's waiting ,also for instance a bus Is coming along and a pedestrian chose to cross without warning or waiting the bus has to harsh break ckuks hurt passengers,  you don't have to stop at all pedestrians who think otherwise are rude and don't give a damn when growing up was always taught wait at zebra crossing toll cars vans,stop for you if you decide to cross the road forcing vehicles to stop you should be arrested but can't be jailed as the uk is so screwed there is no more room if you Google uk laws for zebra there it's say don't have to stop ie link 

As I said must have one foot on the crossing. 

[lordgrinz]

5 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

As I said None here, come down the 'mountain' into White Sand and right around a blind bend is a crossing no warning signs whatsoever. It's the resort guard's in their reflective vest (if they have one on that day) that will hold up their hand to stop or wave you through.  

 

It doesn't make much difference, nobody cares here in my district, they literally will run you over in the Zebra crossing, they don't even care about the students using them to get to and leave school. This is with multiple blue triangle signs everywhere, then you'll also find people parked directly inside blocking the Zebra crossing, or double parked right up to the edge of one (in a no-parking zone!). It's insane, if I was a cop I could make millions of baht every day with ticketed fines, I'll be the first to sign up if they want Foreigners to take on the task. 

[ignore it]

Hitting a newly arrived foreigner in a zebra street crossing.

 

I hope the driver knows that there are no points for that one.

 

Its like hunting in a zoo.

 

Driver probably did a runner because he was embarrassed.

[lordgrinz]

1 minute ago, ignore it said:

Hitting a newly arrived foreigner in a zebra street crossing.

 

I hope the driver knows that there are no points for that one.

 

Its like hunting in a zoo.

 

Driver probably did a runner because he was embarrassed.

 

Not sure he did a runner, they said he was hit by "airport taxi with a green registration plate" and there is a green plate on the white car in the photo.

 

[Sydebolle]

Taken quite some time ago; still exactly the same. Run or die 😉 
 

 

[Dan O]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

There must be a deterrent, there must be a reason for people to stop beyond courtesy, beyond respect, beyond doing it because it's the right thing to do. There has to be a threat of huge fines, or prison time, or confiscation of the vehicle. Somebody needs to step up and take charge and take care of this problem, or it will simply continue for decades into the future. 

That would be the logical response but given that it's gone on for decades I don't see how you change the lack of critical or spatial thinking in Thai people. They have no ability or desire to forecast what might occur in the future from their actions, only what the want to do at that split second  and act on it. Its truly frightening in many instances. 

[Gandtee]

No point in commenting. What's new? It is an everyday occurrence. 😴

[lordgrinz]

3 minutes ago, Dan O said:

That would be the logical response but given that it's gone on for decades I don't see how you change the lack of critical or spatial thinking in Thai people. They have no ability or desire to forecast what might occur in the future from their actions, only what the want to do at that split second  and act on it. Its truly frightening in many instances. 

 

With an average IQ score of 88 in Thailand, we shouldn't expect much.

 

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IQ Classifications - Wikipedia

 

80 - 90  : Dullness, rarely classifiable as feeble-mindedness

 

 

[ChaiyaTH]

4 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

With an average IQ score of 88 in Thailand, we shouldn't expect much.

 

 

Starts to annoy the crap out of me lately, since the fun factors are gone more and more too, which used to compensate that.

[AustinRacing]

What about the driver? On a related matter how many Thais understand the meaning of zebra crossing? 

[Judum]

1 hour ago, brianthainess said:

Those LBs are an unpredictable animal species, you could end up with a stiletto in the back of your head and set upon by a whole gaggle of them, just for refusing their advances, as happens here. 

So true lol every word 

[Judum]

Does anyone know where the foreign national was from the pedestrian who was struck 

[lordgrinz]

Just now, Judum said:

Does anyone know where the foreign national was from the pedestrian who was struck 

 

He's probably still at the hospital arguing with the front desk as to how he is going to pay for this.