1 hour ago, bradiston said:

I cooked my own food, essential. Counted carbs but not to the point of cult status. No bread, potatoes, pasta, rice and very few sugary fruits. No sugar. Use erythritol. Strawberries and star fruit petmissible.

 

Way to go, low carb. Basically what I do, but no erythritol. Monk fruit sweetener's useable, but the taste doesn't impress me enough to buy more of it.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

I quit end of last year.

 

Oh. Well, it's downhill from there.

 

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

Since then I've put 7kg back on. But it was a great education and it taught me to take care of myself. That's all that really matters, GG. Taking care of yourself.

 

Yes you did. 'Course, the question is how to take of yourself and how to measure the results of doing so. What we really want to know is, how to take care of yourself w/o doing anything, or rather, doing whatever your impaired insulin sensitivity demands. We ain't gettin' any happy answers, however.   

 

On 10/24/2024 at 8:59 AM, KhunLA said:

 

You might want to try a darker roast coffee, as not as bitter, so don't need the sugar.   Although less caffeine, the darker the roast.

 

While darker roasts tend to have less caffeine, the notion that a darker roast is less bitter is utter <deleted>. 

roasting breaks down sugars and acids in the coffee resulting in a less complex often more bitter flavour

Looking good:

 

Brain responses to intermittent fasting and the healthy living diet in older adults

 

 

On 10/23/2024 at 2:53 AM, Ralf001 said:

No, you should wait 24hrs.

Ans check with the doc if its ok to eat 😄

Actually 3-5 day fasts are good...after the initial hunger pains, the body learns to burn fat, as you enter ketosis. Hunger reduces at this time. 

I fast every day between breakfast (6.30-6.45 am) and dinner time (10-11 am) and then between dinner time and Tea Time (16.00) and I don't normally eat after 5 pm since I moved to Thailand in 2009. I know some people refer what I call dinner time as "lunch time" but the school I attended had "dinner ladies" who served dinner (not lunch) at dinner time. i.e. around midday.

On 10/23/2024 at 3:53 AM, Ralf001 said:

No, you should wait 24hrs.

You should never eat on an empty stomach 

 

I know many who are doing this. In order to get good results the fasting window has to be at least 15 hours per day. 16 is better. So, 7pm to 11am?

On 10/23/2024 at 7:19 AM, save the frogs said:

you will lost more weight the longer your fasting windows are.

 

but how much of it is fat and how much is muscle loss? 

 

hard to say what the ideal fasting window is. don't forget to keep your protein levels high.

and how much protein should we have in one meal? 

controversial, not sure I have found the answers yet. 

 

google "how much protein does one need"  there will be numerous sites providing you with the amount of protein based on age, health, lifestyle, diet.  There will be sites providing protein amounts in various foods, i.e. fruits (very little) veggies, meats, seeds, etc so you can plan what to eat when necessary to have more or less protein.  

3 minutes ago, Presnock said:

google "how much protein does one need"  there will be numerous sites providing you with the amount of protein based on age, health, lifestyle, diet.  There will be sites providing protein amounts in various foods, i.e. fruits (very little) veggies, meats, seeds, etc so you can plan what to eat when necessary to have more or less protein.  

 

There is a lot of (arguably -- which I won't argue too much) FAKE and/or misleading science regarding protein intake.

 

For instance, too much protein is bad for the kidneys ....  when in likelihood, most people are probably not getting enough protein.

 

As with all health matters, it requires sifting through both sides of the argument and it's complicated and hard work, so most people give up fairly quickly and just take in the first information they find. 

 

 

7 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I know many who are doing this. In order to get good results the fasting window has to be at least 15 hours per day. 16 is better. So, 7pm to 11am?

Yes, correct, I personnaly do 18/19 hours daily, never hungry and weight after 4 kilos lost (3 inches on stomach) has stabilized for 4 months now.  But, I also have read that after a certain amount of time fasting, if one chooses a certain time every day, then the body will alter the burning of fat time and one might begin gaining weight so alter not the time of fast but the daily time of the fasting.  Can easily do by skipping a meal regularly.,  Some folks actually fast for 7 days, 3 days instead of just hours.  Learn to stay away from extra sugar on anything or any sugar at all.  best dieting books available are those of Dr. WIlliam Li - eat to beat disease and eat to beat your diet.  Not a straight out diet book but about all healthy foods - luckily all seem to be available here in Thailand.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

 

There is a lot of (arguably -- which I won't argue too much) FAKE and/or misleading science regarding protein intake.

 

For instance, too much protein is bad for the kidneys ....  when in likelihood, most people are probably not getting enough protein.

 

As with all health matters, it requires sifting through both sides of the argument and it's complicated and hard work, so most people give up fairly quickly and just take in the first information they find. 

 

 

that is why I did not link any specific site, there are wat too many to begin with and people who are actually serious should read a lot of them to see the different sides of protein needed.  One has to consider one's age and lifestly to begin with, then choosing a particular source  not an easy game for sure.  Good luck to all and good health.

Thai monks fast a lot but they smoke like a chimney to cope with hunger pains.doesnt seem right to me