Top Oxfordshire Prep School to Close Amid Controversial VAT Policy on Private Education

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Probably not a good idea to pick one on the ropes.

yea quite a few like that because of the budget, that's why they are suing the government, over 1000 of them

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What excellent state schools are within travelling distance of Corrdus in Banbury, what is their admission criteria? Have you read the reports on the excellence? Do they have placements available mid term like this?

Here you go:

 

https://snobe.co.uk/best-state-schools/oxfordshire

[blaze master]

2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

But they don't!

Hence the need for choice if available/affordable!

 

Then fix the problem and stop providing a 2 tier system that mostly effects the lowest of society. 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Here you go:

 

https://snobe.co.uk/best-state-schools/oxfordshire

So how many in traveling distance of Banbury? Oxfordshire is a large place and transport in the rural areas is not good, I lived there for years and managed schools there. 

 

What is there admission criteria and what is their availability mid term.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Then fix the problem and stop providing a 2 tier system that mostly effects the lowest of society. 

Excellent. 
 

Kier undoing the two tier.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Excellent. 
 

Kier undoing the two tier.

 

 

No, he's making it more exclusive to the rich only, more expensive now

[scottiejohn]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Probably not a good idea to pick one on the ropes.

So don't select it!

It is called homework and if you have been to a "good" school you would know and use that information and send your children to a school with a current good reputation!!

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

So how many in traveling distance of Banbury? Oxfordshire is a large place and transport in the rural areas is not good, I lived there for years and managed schools there. 

 

What is there admission criteria and what is their availability mid term.

Why in travelling distance from Banbury?

 

Are all the children attending the Corrdus School from Banbury?

 

I would be surprised if that were the case.

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Excellent. 
 

Kier undoing the two tier.

 

 

 

   Making clever people stupid , will not make the stupid people to be clever 

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

No, he's making it more exclusive to the rich only, more expensive now

So you do have a problem with privilege being reserved for the rich, it’s just where the line is drawn that bothers you.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Making clever people stupid , will not make the stupid people to be clever 

I’m sure that makes some kind of set to you.

 

School doesn’t make anyone clever or stupid.

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why in travelling distance from Banbury?

 

Are all the children attending the Corrdus School from Banbury?

 

I would be surprised if that were the case.

 

They will obviously be in daily travelling distance, that's what you do when you choose a school. Banbury is on the outskirts of Oxfordshire. Why is the school finding it difficult to find alternative placements for the children?

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So you do have a problem with privilege being reserved for the rich, it’s just where the line is drawn that bothers you.

Who said I have a problem, you made a claim which was wrong again, I responded with the facts

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m sure that makes some kind of Dr se to you.

 

School doesn’t make anyone clever or stupid.

 

 

  Taking away some pupils advanced private education , doesn't give state school kids an advanced education .

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Taking away some pupils advanced private education , doesn't give state school kids an advanced education .

Who made such a claim?

[BangkokReady]

On 11/12/2024 at 5:38 PM, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

Is the amount of money that the government does not collect if VAT is not levied on tuition more or less than the extra expenditure that would be required to educate all of this prep school's students in government schools?

 

No doubt not all parents could no longer afford to pay.  Many will go to other private schools.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Who made such a claim?

 

   Taking away the two tier education system will not be beneficial to state school kids 

[owl sees all]

On 11/12/2024 at 3:00 AM, Social Media said:

 

Carrdus School, a well-regarded preparatory school in Oxfordshire and a part of the Tudor Hall school network, has announced it will close its doors in the coming spring unless a buyer is found. The decision, which has left parents and faculty in shock, comes in response to financial pressures brought on by new government tax policies affecting private schools.

 

The Chair of Governors at Tudor Hall, Alison Darling, explained in a letter to parents that reduced enrollment at Carrdus, driven by recent changes in VAT policies on school fees, as well as increased National Insurance contributions, made it financially unsustainable for Tudor Hall to continue funding the school. Darling wrote, “You will know only too well that the introduction of VAT on independent school fees has put a great deal of pressure on parents and schools.”

 

She further criticized the government's decision not to delay the implementation of a 20% VAT on private school fees, which was enacted in January despite strong opposition. “Despite the support of our professional associations in lobbying the Government in recent months, the Government has not responded to the call to reconsider its policy nor, even, to delay implementation until September 2025,” she stated. This timing has put many private schools under intense financial strain, particularly those with already declining enrollment rates.

 

The letter outlined how the new VAT on fees prompted many parents to withdraw their children from Carrdus, either at the end of the autumn term or the academic year. Darling added, “The combination of VAT across both schools, further compounded by the increase in employers’ National Insurance contributions, and the Carrdus pupil roll falling further below a sustainable number, means that Tudor Hall is no longer able to make the substantial financial commitment to Carrdus School that is required.”

 

The Good Schools Guide, a respected directory for independent schools, has described Carrdus as a "gem," recognizing the school’s excellence in educating over 100 boys and girls between the ages of 3 and 11. However, it now joins a growing list of private schools facing closure due to enrollment declines linked to VAT and other rising operational costs.

 

This recent development comes amid broader concerns that such tax policies could lead to an exodus of students from the private sector into the already stretched state school system. Warnings from industry experts suggest that tens of thousands of students could soon flood state schools, raising questions about how prepared these institutions are to accommodate the potential influx.

 

Based on a report by Daily Mail 2024-11-12

 

 

 

Lovely gaff. I'm thinking asylum seekers.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

They will obviously be in daily travelling distance, that's what you do when you choose a school. Banbury is on the outskirts of Oxfordshire. Why is the school finding it difficult to find alternative placements for the children?

I know a family who’s children travel from Didcot to Reading and Didcot to Henley for (state) school.

I suggest you ask the school.

 

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I know a family who’s children travel from Didcot to Reading and Didcot to Henley for (state) school.

I suggest you ask the school.

 

So? I know a family who travel from Koh Lak to Kathu in Phuket daily, for a private school, takes about 5 hours of daily driving.....

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

So? I know a family who travel from Koh Lak to Kathu in Phuket daily, for a private school, takes about 5 hours of daily driving.....

So there goes your local to Banbury argument.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

So there goes your local to Banbury argument.

Why, because of outliners in Phuket? You really need to think a little on this.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why, because of outliners in Phuket? You really need to think a little on this.

No because clearly distance to school is something that can be dealt with.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

No because clearly distance to school is something that can be dealt with.

Of course it can, if you have a private jet you could also hop on a flight to school. But the vast majority of parents get a school in their own traveling catchment area. 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Of course it can, if you have a private jet you could also hop on a flight to school. But the vast majority of parents get a school in their own traveling catchment area. 

‘Private Jet’

 

Good night Brian.

 

 

[BangkokReady]

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Taking away the two tier education system will not be beneficial to state school kids 

 

It will put everyone on a more even playing field when it comes to education.  This will mean that the privileged few will have fewer advantages over regular people, meaning they will have less of a competitive edge when it comes to finding a job later.  (Although they will of course retain other areas of privilege that their parents' wealth and social status grant them.)

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘Private Jet’

 

Good night Brian.

 

 

lol, well if you took the example i gave about Phuket seriously then yes a private jet, or perhaps a speedboat and island hop to school.

 

Now back to reality and do what most parents do, a school in their catchment traveling area. Which I did mention but you ignored and preferred the outliner option. 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

 

It will put everyone on a more even playing field when it comes to education.  This will mean that the privileged few will have fewer advantages over regular people, meaning they will have less of a competitive edge when it comes to finding a job later.  (Although they will of course retain other areas of privilege that their parents' wealth and social status grant them.)

 

  Similar to our advantages in Thailand ?

 

[BangkokReady]

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Similar to our advantages in Thailand ?

 

Yours perhaps.  Not mine.  I can't speak for everyone else.

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Yours perhaps.  Not mine.  I can't speak for everyone else.

 

   Your income is the average Thai wage ?

15-20 000 Baht a month ?