Appeal Launched for British Teacher Gravely Injured in Thailand Crash

[smew]

bravado...accidents....go begging...  

[kwilco]

On 11/20/2024 at 2:34 AM, webfact said:

British teacher’s tale takes a ‘Krabi’ turn after leg loss in crash
by Bob Scott

 

Picture of Andy Davis courtesy of the Davis family

A British teacher is at the centre of a heartbreaking tale after he lost a leg in a dreadful accident in Thailand.

 

Andy Davis, a much-loved local lad from Walton in Stone, Staffordshire, is fighting for his life after a catastrophic road smash on a serene island near Krabi on November 8.

 

The 33 year old, who has dedicated his life to setting up teaching gigs for British teachers keen to spread the English language abroad, is now facing a gruelling battle for recovery after a horrific crash.

 

Davis’ selfless work has touched countless lives but it’s his own life that hangs in the balance now. With injuries so severe his leg had to be amputated immediately, the Brit’s situation is dire. To add to his woes, he’s grappling with a shattered pelvis, an infection, and a torn bladder, leaving him in urgent need of several major surgeries.

Rallying to Davis’ aid, his family have kicked off a heartfelt donation appeal. They need to gather a whopping £25,000 (1.1 million baht), and so far, the outpouring of generosity has amassed £11,500 (506,000 baht).

 

The funds are crucial for life-saving surgeries and to transfer the injured British man from a small hospital in Krabi to a more equipped facility in Bangkok. His family stress that without this move, his chances of survival dwindle, as he battles multiple infections that could lead to even more amputations.

 

Life-saving

 

On their GoFundMe page, his family made a plea for help.

 

“These surgeries will be life-saving. For Andy, this transfer is urgent. It’s just the beginning of the daunting medical bills we’re facing, aiming to stabilise him before planning his journey back home. Your support could ensure Andy comes home safely.”

 

Andy’s lifelong friend, Mike Pugh, shares just how dire the situation is. Describing his mate of 20 years as “incredibly laid back” and “a genuinely nice guy,” Pugh highlights Davis’ inability to sort insurance or healthcare, as he drifts in and out of consciousness.

 

Pugh believes the support flooding in is a testament to his friend’s character, with donations pouring from across the globe, proving the immense impact he made as he taught in Thailand, Peru, Mexico, and Ecuador since 2016.

 

For those touched by Davis’ story, donations can be made at gofund.me/f7fb938b. It’s a race against time to bring the injured Brit back to the UK, and every bit of assistance counts.

 

Picture of Andy Davis courtesy of the Davis family

 

Source: The Thaiger

-- 2024-11-20

 

 

the reporting around this incident seems excessively saccharine - Why?

[richard_smith237]

21 minutes ago, kwilco said:

the reporting around this incident seems excessively saccharine - Why?

 

AI

[richard_smith237]

4 hours ago, Moncul said:

How hard is it to know that insurance will be invalid if you are not riding legally? No helmet, no license for a start, then there are all the chumps that think it's ok to ride drunk or drug impaired because they see everyone else at it?

As the saying goes, "Monkey see, Monkey do".

You don't *have* to be an idiot.

 

Its not... But this guy was not riding...  he was a passenger. 

 

So... Will your insurance cover you as a passenger ? - are you sure ?

What if they found out the moto-taxi rider had been drinking ? - would it still cover you then ?...   (I think so, but are you sure).

 

Also, the British lad who lost a leg was insured, but, the insurance is 'capped' and the costs appear to be higher than his level of cover.

 

What is the maximum level of your cover ? - any cap ?

 

Do you know every policy detail of your insurance ?  Is riding a bicycle in Bangkok considered a 'dangersous activity' ...  going pillion on a motorycle covered ? what about without a helmet ?

What about going in the back of a taxi that has no seatbelts ?? - do you know the details of your policy to cover these scenarios ???

.... You don't *have* to be an idiot - you just have to be familiar with 50 pages of detailed policy.

 

^{(and before LL pipes up - yes, it could be less than 50 pages).}

 

 

 

[Deerculler]

On 11/20/2024 at 11:55 AM, CLW said:

No insurance? Just irresponsible and now others (including his family) have to help him out 

Read again. Okay.

[thesetat2013]

On 11/20/2024 at 12:30 PM, herfiehandbag said:

Was he a teacher, or did he act as an "agent" fixing short term "teaching gigs" for cash strapped backpackers?

I was thinking the same thing.... someone prompted Thai news to make a sweet story about this man and his medical problem. But the story reads he was an agent. Not a teacher. We all know how agents work in Thailand. So give him the benefit of being an all around nice guy. Where is his work permit and insurance from the company that hires him to find teachers for their schools? Where is his insurance as required to be in Thailand if he is on a tourist visa and working illegally? Seems someone in the news failed to address anything out of the ordinary for this really all-around great guy that only one foreigner has spoken for. Then the family? runs a gofundme page to pay for all his medical bills? What about sending him back to his country and let Mommy and Daddies insurance and health coverage pay for it all? 

I am sorry the guy had a really bad Accident.. feel bad he lost a leg. But other parts of the story do not add up. 

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, thesetat2013 said:

Then the family? runs a gofundme page to pay for all his medical bills? What about sending him back to his country and let Mommy and Daddies insurance and health coverage pay for it all? 

I am sorry the guy had a really bad Accident.. feel bad he lost a leg. But other parts of the story do not add up. 

I should imagine that his insurance does not or will not cover the medical bills for his hospital stay in Thailand. That may be due to inadequate insurance, his own irresponsibility ( something as basic as helmet and licence), or (surely not) his insurance company wriggling out. There is also, of course, the question of what sort of hospital he is in,  it does looks a bit "glitzy" for a Government hospital, and of course the possibility of some "adventurous charging". Then there is the cost of flying him back to the UK.

 

Once he is in the UK his problems do not exactly disappear, but all his treatment will be free through the NHS.

 

It is surprising that his family cannot raise the money, but of course we don't know to what extent their assets or property are "leveraged".

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, thesetat2013 said:

I was thinking the same thing.... someone prompted Thai news to make a sweet story about this man and his medical problem. But the story reads he was an agent. Not a teacher. We all know how agents work in Thailand. So give him the benefit of being an all around nice guy. Where is his work permit and insurance from the company that hires him to find teachers for their schools? Where is his insurance as required to be in Thailand if he is on a tourist visa and working illegally? Seems someone in the news failed to address anything out of the ordinary for this really all-around great guy that only one foreigner has spoken for.

 

His work and visa status is irrelevant - its reported that has insurance - but it appears capped and can't cover all the costs.

 

1 hour ago, thesetat2013 said:

Then the family? runs a gofundme page to pay for all his medical bills? What about sending him back to his country and let Mommy and Daddies insurance and health coverage pay for it all? 

 

How does he get to the UK ???...    he can't travel without a medivac - and first he needs to get to Bangkok for emergency treatment (which I hope / assume - he is already receiving).

 

1 hour ago, thesetat2013 said:

I am sorry the guy had a really bad Accident.. feel bad he lost a leg. But other parts of the story do not add up. 

 

What exactly doesn't add up ?

 

A young guy with a capped insurance loses a leg when riding pillion on the back of a motorcycle - what doesn't add up there ????

 

He may or may not have had a work permit for his business - but I don't see how that is relevant to the story at all. 

 

 

 

 

[thesetat2013]

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

How does he get to the UK ???...    he can't travel without a medivac - and first he needs to get to Bangkok for emergency treatment (which I hope / assume - he is already receiving).

Does it not seem odd that emergency treatment is not really an emergency, otherwise they would have to do it to save his life. Also, medivac to his home country would be cheaper than 1.2 million baht I am assuming. 

[NanLaew]

On 11/20/2024 at 11:46 AM, Gottfrid said:

Why some? In other words, he bought a cheap charlie insurance. With a  real one the costs in Thailand would be covered. After that, he would be able to travel on a regular plane home. So, out of his stupidity, just another GoFundMe is live and well. Let others pay for your mistakes.

If he wasn´t stupid enough to drive without helmet and license of course.

 

Yeah, if he had a helmet on, he probably wouldnt have lost his leg, eh?

[Puccini]

On 11/20/2024 at 5:46 AM, Gottfrid said:

...If he wasn´t stupid enough to drive without helmet and license of course.

 

Please give a link to the news article that says he was driving a motorbike.

 

[Puccini]

On 11/20/2024 at 1:21 PM, Digitalbanana said:

ex Stickboy just tweeted saying he had insurance but it was voided as the hospital found drugs in his system.

 

What link did ex Stickboy give for that information?

[Puccini]

16 hours ago, Moncul said:

[The insurance] won't cover any of it if he was riding without a license or helmet...

 

What does a license to ride pillion on a motorcycle look like?

[Gottfrid]

My deepest apologies! I went too far. I am sorry for bashing all Brits just for a few, that behaves bad. I know there are many Brits in Thailand, and most of you are good hearted lads. Just a little bit arrogant, maybe. 😉 But, that kind of a part of your ways and heritage. I actually once liked the UK and Brits. I don´t have any hate today, either. Just makes me boil, and actually sad over constantly seeing so much bad in the news about a country and people used to look up to. You guys, got my promise, I will try to look at it more objective and not drag all down just because of a few more than necessary hit the news. Again, my sincere apologies.

Have a nice weekend, all of you.

[RocketDog]

On 11/20/2024 at 11:16 AM, mdr224 said:

Anyone that takes their motorbike to go anywhere past the 7-11 across the block takes that risk

Agreed.

I bought a new Honda Click after I got my first 1 year O visa several years ago.

I rode it around Chaam for about 18 months observing other riders and cars around me. Then one day I looked at the pavement screaming by under my feet, reflected on the intrinsic instability of two- wheeled vehicles and their vulnerability to larger vehicles driven by heedless nationals, so I took it home and never got on it again.

 

My Lady uses it for 2km backroad trips to fresh market only.

 

Otherwise we travel in a big heavy Chevy Z71 Colorado model pickup surrounded by tons of steel over a foot off the ground with front/rear dash cams.

Motorcycles are dangerous in any country but downright insane to possess here in the Kingdom.

Better to wise up late than never.

[ericbj]

On 11/20/2024 at 12:35 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Rubbish. Riding responsibly reduces the risk to slight. Many farangs ride in LOS without any trouble. It probably more dangerous crossing the road in Pattaya than riding responsibly.

 

...

 

I ride a bicycle, hopefully responsibly.  But it can at times be extremely dangerous.

 

Not on account of my actions.  But on account of the behaviour of a few, yet non-negligeable number, of  truck drivers, car-drivers, motorcyclists, and even cyclists, who choose for example: to skim by within centimetres; to overtake and then turn immediately in front of one down a side-road,; etc.

[NedR69]

On 11/19/2024 at 11:55 PM, richard_smith237 said:

 

 - everyone knows the importance of full health / Medical Insurance 

 

Apparently not, or this person wouldn't have departed without it.

 

What is somewhat grinding with this story is that the hospitals know what needs to be done to give this lad a better shot at surviving but are putting that on hold while waiting for a bill to be paid -.

 

Hospitals are not charitable organizations - they are a for-profit business.

 

 If people are going to argue that point - be reminded: 

- In 2023 the Revenue from Medical Tourism to Thailand was 29 Billion Baht.

- Burden of unpaid medical bills estimated at 300 to 400 Million Baht - about 1% of the total revenue.

The Thai Medical industry is not hurting by any means because of people such as this guy who need urgent medical care.

 

That has no relevance in this case.  The cheap charlie came here, didn't have shyte for insurance, and now is begging the public for help.

 

T

 

 

 

 

[JamesPhuket10]

On 11/20/2024 at 2:34 AM, webfact said:

British teacher’s tale takes a ‘Krabi’ turn after leg loss in crash
by Bob Scott

 

Picture of Andy Davis courtesy of the Davis family

A British teacher is at the centre of a heartbreaking tale after he lost a leg in a dreadful accident in Thailand.

 

Andy Davis, a much-loved local lad from Walton in Stone, Staffordshire, is fighting for his life after a catastrophic road smash on a serene island near Krabi on November 8.

 

The 33 year old, who has dedicated his life to setting up teaching gigs for British teachers keen to spread the English language abroad, is now facing a gruelling battle for recovery after a horrific crash.

 

Davis’ selfless work has touched countless lives but it’s his own life that hangs in the balance now. With injuries so severe his leg had to be amputated immediately, the Brit’s situation is dire. To add to his woes, he’s grappling with a shattered pelvis, an infection, and a torn bladder, leaving him in urgent need of several major surgeries.

Rallying to Davis’ aid, his family have kicked off a heartfelt donation appeal. They need to gather a whopping £25,000 (1.1 million baht), and so far, the outpouring of generosity has amassed £11,500 (506,000 baht).

 

The funds are crucial for life-saving surgeries and to transfer the injured British man from a small hospital in Krabi to a more equipped facility in Bangkok. His family stress that without this move, his chances of survival dwindle, as he battles multiple infections that could lead to even more amputations.

 

Life-saving

 

On their GoFundMe page, his family made a plea for help.

 

“These surgeries will be life-saving. For Andy, this transfer is urgent. It’s just the beginning of the daunting medical bills we’re facing, aiming to stabilise him before planning his journey back home. Your support could ensure Andy comes home safely.”

 

Andy’s lifelong friend, Mike Pugh, shares just how dire the situation is. Describing his mate of 20 years as “incredibly laid back” and “a genuinely nice guy,” Pugh highlights Davis’ inability to sort insurance or healthcare, as he drifts in and out of consciousness.

 

Pugh believes the support flooding in is a testament to his friend’s character, with donations pouring from across the globe, proving the immense impact he made as he taught in Thailand, Peru, Mexico, and Ecuador since 2016.

 

For those touched by Davis’ story, donations can be made at gofund.me/f7fb938b. It’s a race against time to bring the injured Brit back to the UK, and every bit of assistance counts.

 

Picture of Andy Davis courtesy of the Davis family

 

Source: The Thaiger

-- 2024-11-20

 

 

 

I always check my travel insurance cover and I specifically remember we are not covered by accidents while riding motorbikes or driving a car we hire or own.

 

Why would anybody want to ride a motorbike in Thailand of all places, a death wish?

 

[bannork]

On 11/21/2024 at 8:01 PM, Puccini said:

 

What does a license to ride pillion on a motorcycle look like?

A prayer book 

[Puccini]

8 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

I always check my travel insurance cover and I specifically remember we are not covered by accidents while riding motorbike...

 

Driving a motorcycle or riding pillion on a motorcycle?

[Puccini]

Forget my question; I found the answer on Quora.

 

Quote

 

If you sit in a vehicle you are operating, then you are driving it. If you sit on a vehicle you are operating, then you are riding it.

These terms actually predate motorized transportation and originally applied to horses. If you are on a horse, you are riding on the animal. However if you are operating a wagon being drawn by a team of horses, then you are driving the team and wagon.

 

 

"The English language, she is difficult", says Hercule Poirot in Agatha Christie's detective novels and I, who am learning English as a foreign language, agree.

 

Lesson learnt: If it is between your legs, it is being ridden. 

 

[Letseng]

On 11/20/2024 at 3:20 PM, richard_smith237 said:

 

Thats outrageous - disgusting behavior... It shows how mercenary the hospitals have become.

They should be held accountable for allowing such delays. 

 

 

This was never different in USA.

[Letseng]

On 11/20/2024 at 3:49 PM, richard_smith237 said:

 

Putting critical care on hold is outrageous - its wrong on so many levels. 

 

Even for non-critical care, I just have the treatment and then claim on insurance becase they take too long to provide pre-authorisation....  (knee op a few months back - I knew pre-authorisation would take days when I could have the operation the following day - in the UK the wait would have been months, perhaps over a year).

 

This perhaps highlights the need even more to have solid cover - just to ensure there is no waiting around. 

 

In the case you describe - I wonder if there is no a need for Germans to carry an Embassy letter to confirm their insurance (which of course they are unlikely to give until absolutely necessary).

 

I can't imagine the frustration of being in such a situation and then the anger when finding out human road-blocks have had a direct impact on wellbeing.

 

 

A German embassy will never guarantee the insurance or hospital bill. To overcome such a situation as explained, just guarantee with yr credit card/s to start with. 

[JimHuaHin]

I have been travelling overseas since I was 17 years old (69 now).  I have always had travel insurance, including comprehensive travel health insurance; and I always read the policy fine print.

 

No sympathy from me.