1 minute ago, Albo said:

Being above the law would require charges not brought against him.

 

 

No it wouldn't.

 

 

48 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Do you know the important part of above? It's the fact that Biden struggle with the decision. As father, he obviously wants to support his son, as president, he knows that he shouldn't use his position for personal reasons.

For Trump this would be much easier. He pardons just everybody who he likes and who gives him something in return.

 

 

 

How idiotic. You're really on a roll.

 

I believe Trump stated he would pardon Hunter if he was Biden. That he would pardon his own son.

 

He should pardon Hunter. Why not? His reputation is shambles anyway.

 

Let us not forget the FBI certifying the laptop as Russian, notifying social media of Russian disinformation campaign involving said laptop and the 50 or 200 (?) lame ass security operatives that signed a public declaration that the laptop was Russian propaganda. All lies

 

and all right in the final days of the election.

 

That is so illegal, so election tampering, fraud and performed by US elected and career apparatchiks.

 

Muppets all

18 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

This is good news for people like me who still hold lots of secrets from our days in the agency and carrying TS/SCI  and (actual) Q clearances (not the silly Q as in QAnon, but Q as in a clearance to see nuclear related intel at the DoE).

 

It's okay to use highly classified material in any way we so choose. Eff US national security. Monetize the secrets if that is to one's advantage.

 

I was fortunate enough to become wealthy after I left the agency, but folks still working there, who now know both intelligence and the US itself are dying or dead, might as well use their knowledge for personal advantage.

 

Imagine what Putin would pay to know whom in his inner circle is a clandestine asset for the CIA ! Even al Qaeda is flush with cash, and they would pay to know what US intel knows. And then there's weapons systems...China and Russia would love to know what the US military can do, and what is in the pipeline. Ka-ching! It's auction time!

 

45 stole highly classified intel regarding everything from nukes to weapons systems to order of battle to identities of clandestine assets in hostile nations or areas. I have no doubt whatsoever he intended to monetize it, as clearly he needed cash (why else would he schlepp silly NFTs, golden sneakers, commemorative coins, Chines-made Bibles, Chinese watches, and now rip offs of Les Paul guitars?) If it's good for the goose.....

 

SC Smith is wise enough to know the system is broken. Institutions failed. The rule of law no longer exists in many ways. Some folks are above the law. Even the stacked Supreme Court says Madison and Jefferson were wrong and that the US is kind of a monarchy. Little guys---like a guy who took a doc or two home to work on the weekend---get 12 years in jail, but a guy who put national security and the identities of clandestine assets and programs at risk gets re-elected to the White House.

 

The people got what they think they want, but it will come with consequences. Liaison cooperation is finished for at least the next 4 years. No more Five Eyes. Also, no sharing of intel with non-Five Eyes nations like France, Japan, South Korea, Israel, etc.  They all know 47 cannot be trusted, and neither can Tulsi Gabbard be trusted. The risks that were thwarted because of liaison cooperation now have a wide open door to get the US. So be it. That's what the democratic majority wanted, so give it to them in spades. Terror attack, dirty bomb, bioterror, disrupt the electric grid, poison water supplies....enjoy!

 

In the meantime, my former colleagues, see what you've got and think of who might make your 401K sing paying for it.

 

Anybody want to know what Putin has on 47 and who told me? It's going to cost you.

You do realize this an anonymous forum where members claim many, many things. Are you Bob? Maybe. 

19 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

This is good news for people like me who still hold lots of secrets from our days in the agency and carrying TS/SCI  and (actual) Q clearances (not the silly Q as in QAnon, but Q as in a clearance to see nuclear related intel at the DoE).

 

It's okay to use highly classified material in any way we so choose. Eff US national security. Monetize the secrets if that is to one's advantage.

 

I was fortunate enough to become wealthy after I left the agency, but folks still working there, who now know both intelligence and the US itself are dying or dead, might as well use their knowledge for personal advantage.

 

Imagine what Putin would pay to know whom in his inner circle is a clandestine asset for the CIA ! Even al Qaeda is flush with cash, and they would pay to know what US intel knows. And then there's weapons systems...China and Russia would love to know what the US military can do, and what is in the pipeline. Ka-ching! It's auction time!

 

45 stole highly classified intel regarding everything from nukes to weapons systems to order of battle to identities of clandestine assets in hostile nations or areas. I have no doubt whatsoever he intended to monetize it, as clearly he needed cash (why else would he schlepp silly NFTs, golden sneakers, commemorative coins, Chines-made Bibles, Chinese watches, and now rip offs of Les Paul guitars?) If it's good for the goose.....

 

SC Smith is wise enough to know the system is broken. Institutions failed. The rule of law no longer exists in many ways. Some folks are above the law. Even the stacked Supreme Court says Madison and Jefferson were wrong and that the US is kind of a monarchy. Little guys---like a guy who took a doc or two home to work on the weekend---get 12 years in jail, but a guy who put national security and the identities of clandestine assets and programs at risk gets re-elected to the White House.

 

The people got what they think they want, but it will come with consequences. Liaison cooperation is finished for at least the next 4 years. No more Five Eyes. Also, no sharing of intel with non-Five Eyes nations like France, Japan, South Korea, Israel, etc.  They all know 47 cannot be trusted, and neither can Tulsi Gabbard be trusted. The risks that were thwarted because of liaison cooperation now have a wide open door to get the US. So be it. That's what the democratic majority wanted, so give it to them in spades. Terror attack, dirty bomb, bioterror, disrupt the electric grid, poison water supplies....enjoy!

 

In the meantime, my former colleagues, see what you've got and think of who might make your 401K sing paying for it.

 

Anybody want to know what Putin has on 47 and who told me? It's going to cost you.

 

Let me add a specific….

 

I know what al Qaeda’s long term goal is. They will sanction little individual hits and terror acts, but their real goal is to unleash a bioweapon inside the US. al Qaeda long worked on how to weaponize smallpox, but they have moved up the bio chain by looking into altering genes and viruses. They have some truly brilliant members who were sent to the best undergrad and doctoral programs in the world to study biochemistry and genetics. These guys are more than capable of creating something on a scale that would make the Bubonic Plague seem like a sniffle.

 

Also, because they believe in a reward for taking out infidels, they do not care if their invention also takes them out and their families out. They are without fear, because they have a much more powerful superstition.

 

I know how the US gets its intel on terrorist intentions, and it relies heavily on many nations, each of whom might have their own ‘sources and methods’. The US absolutely cannot do it alone; it needs cooperation from allies.

 

Nobody trusts 47. Liaison cooperation stops on 20 January 2025, if it hasn’t already stopped, as they know he’s coming. Even previously shared intel is being deleted at the request of friendly liaison services, as nobody wants it in the system when 47 takes over.

 

The US will be at much greater risk. Absolutely al Qaeda is excited about the US election results, because they know their field will be much more wide open.

 

Elections have consequences. Yes, we lost. So did the other side; they just don’t know it yet.

 

If and when you and your family are dying horrible deaths from an al Qaeda success, I hope you take solace in the fact Haitian pet eaters have been sent home and the list of allowed pronouns is back to 1970 level, since those things are far more important than you and your family's lives. Yea, you would have shown us radical lefties a thing or two.

 

I know I have one more reason NOT to be in the US for the next 4 years, and it isn’t just because I don’t like 47.

 

Good luck.

 

5 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

You do realize this an anonymous forum where members claim many, many things. Are you Bob? Maybe. 

 

Harkens back to old days when everyone you met in pubs in Phils and here were spooks, tunnel rats or macvsog  🤣

 

About four million people with Q clearance

 

It's has little to do with spycraft. DOE clearance

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Do you know the important part of above? It's the fact that Biden struggle with the decision. As father, he obviously wants to support his son, as president, he knows that he shouldn't use his position for personal reasons.

For Trump this would be much easier. He pardons just everybody who he likes and who gives him something in return.

 

 

 

Hunter Biden had his hands in China and Ukraine. Google Biden and Burisma (sp?) Holdings. CIA also had biolabs.

 

Crackhead Biden lol

 

CIA instrumental in 2014 Ukraine coup

On 11/26/2024 at 7:39 AM, radiochaser said:

WASHINGTON — Special counsel Jack Smith on Monday filed motions to drop all federal charges against President-elect Donald Trump regarding his mishandling of classified documents and his effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election in the lead-up to the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the U.S Capitol.

 

Hours later, U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan granted Smith's motion to dismiss the Jan. 6-related indictment, formally bringing to an end the case that alleged Trump unlawfully conspired to overturn his 2020 loss to President Joe Biden.

 

 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/jack-smith-files-drop-jan-6-charges-donald-trump-rcna181667

Dismissed without prejudice, which means the charges can be reinstated in 2029.

9 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

You do realize this an anonymous forum where members claim many, many things. Are you Bob? Maybe. 

 

Of course I know that.

 

For example, I know there's a little short guy who rides around Pattaya on a red Vespa claiming he's some sort of babe magnet, when the reality is he couldn't get a woman to hold his hand without dipping into his USG pension.

 

As for what I write, just pay attention to the news if you survive the next 4 years. I'm either right or an anonymous fraud, but only time will tell.

 

Veritatem Cognoscere

9 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

 

Of course I know that.

 

For example, I know there's a little short guy who rides around Pattaya on a red Vespa claiming he's some sort of babe magnet, when the reality is he couldn't get a woman to hold his hand without dipping into his USG pension.

 

As for what I write, just pay attention to the news if you survive the next 4 years. I'm either right or an anonymous fraud, but only time will tell.

 

Veritatem Cognoscere

Why the fixation on short guys on a Vespa, which are super cool by the way. 

 

Bob?

On 11/26/2024 at 9:33 AM, Cryingdick said:

 

Their entire party is in tatters. They need to build it back better.The entire foundation is rotten.

I don't believe that. They just played by the rules as they wanted to take the high road. Failing to realize (after nearly 8 years) that politics has changed drastically. So until they come to the conclusion that to win it back, they have to stop following the rules and act more like Republicans. Otherwise it will be a Republican government for at least 16 years. By then the USA as you have known it, will no longer exist.

11 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Last time i checked unless you live in some sort of tyrannical dictatorship you have the presumption of innocence when accused. Shall we respect that or do you want to take the Hungarian Hitler approach?

I know that within the framework of the current version of revisionist history that's taking place, 36 counts of fraud do not mean anything, but the man is a convicted felon and a criminal, and I'm not just talking about those convictions. 

On 11/26/2024 at 10:50 AM, frank83628 said:

Oh dear, guess there is an orange jump suit going to waste, maybe it can be adjusted for schifty Schiff. 

He is a true caricature of a NKVD functionary. 

On 11/27/2024 at 11:27 AM, spidermike007 said:

I know that within the framework of the current version of revisionist history that's taking place, 36 counts of fraud do not mean anything, but the man is a convicted felon and a criminal, and I'm not just talking about those convictions. 

36 counts of fraud, all because when he reimbursed his attorney for arranging a perfectly legal non-disclosure agreement, his bookkeeper listed it as a legal expense.  

 

 

22 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

36 counts of fraud, all because when he reimbursed his attorney for arranging a perfectly legal non-disclosure agreement, his bookkeeper listed it as a legal expense.  

 

 

False. Revisionist history. 

 

In the fall of 2022, New York Attorney General Letitia James filed a civil suit against Trump, his adult sons, and his former aide Allen Weisselberg, alleging a years-long scheme in which Trump fraudulently reported the value of properties in order to either lower his tax bill or improve the terms of his loans, all with an eye toward inflating his net worth.

 

In another case the charges included willful retention of national-security information, obstruction of justice, withholding of documents, and false statements. Trump took boxes of documents to properties, where they were stored haphazardly, but the indictment centered on his refusal to give them back to the government despite repeated requests.

 

And in yet another case 

In Fulton County, Georgia, which includes most of Atlanta, District Attorney Fani Willis brought a huge racketeering case against Trump and 18 others, alleging a conspiracy that spread across weeks and states with the aim of stealing the 2020 election.

 

More than any other case, this one attempts to reckon with the full breadth of the assault on democracy following the 2020 election.

 

Shall I go on? 

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

False. Revisionist history. 

 

In the fall of 2022, New York Attorney General Letitia James filed a civil suit against Trump, his adult sons, and his former aide Allen Weisselberg, alleging a years-long scheme in which Trump fraudulently reported the value of properties in order to either lower his tax bill or improve the terms of his loans, all with an eye toward inflating his net worth.

No convition

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

 

In another case the charges included willful retention of national-security information, obstruction of justice, withholding of documents, and false statements. Trump took boxes of documents to properties, where they were stored haphazardly, but the indictment centered on his refusal to give them back to the government despite repeated requests.

Case dismissed

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

 

And in yet another case 

In Fulton County, Georgia, which includes most of Atlanta, District Attorney Fani Willis brought a huge racketeering case against Trump and 18 others, alleging a conspiracy that spread across weeks and states with the aim of stealing the 2020 election.

No conviction, will be dropped 

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

 

More than any other case, this one attempts to reckon with the full breadth of the assault on democracy following the 2020 election.

 

Shall I go on? 

Please go on. But all you have are 36 counts of fraud, all because when he reimbursed his attorney for arranging a perfectly legal non-disclosure agreement, his bookkeeper listed it as a legal expense.  

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

False. Revisionist history. 

 

In the fall of 2022, New York Attorney General Letitia James filed a civil suit against Trump, his adult sons, and his former aide Allen Weisselberg, alleging a years-long scheme in which Trump fraudulently reported the value of properties in order to either lower his tax bill or improve the terms of his loans, all with an eye toward inflating his net worth.

 

In another case the charges included willful retention of national-security information, obstruction of justice, withholding of documents, and false statements. Trump took boxes of documents to properties, where they were stored haphazardly, but the indictment centered on his refusal to give them back to the government despite repeated requests.

 

And in yet another case 

In Fulton County, Georgia, which includes most of Atlanta, District Attorney Fani Willis brought a huge racketeering case against Trump and 18 others, alleging a conspiracy that spread across weeks and states with the aim of stealing the 2020 election.

 

More than any other case, this one attempts to reckon with the full breadth of the assault on democracy following the 2020 election.

 

Shall I go on? 

 

On 11/26/2024 at 8:27 PM, spidermike007 said:

I know that within the framework of the current version of revisionist history that's taking place, 36 counts of fraud do not mean anything, but the man is a convicted felon and a criminal, and I'm not just talking about those convictions. 

You have no right to decide what is revisionist history you hypocrite

5 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

 

You have no right to decide what is revisionist history you hypocrite

That is funny. I am not deciding anything. I am merely witnessing it happening. Deny all you want. You can support him. No reason to deny who and what he truly is. 

Just now, spidermike007 said:

That is funny. I am not deciding anything. I am merely witnessing it happening. Deny all you want. You can support him. No reason to deny who and what he truly is. 

You are an october 7th denier. Realize what you are

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

That is funny. I am not deciding anything. I am merely witnessing it happening. Deny all you want. You can support him. No reason to deny who and what he truly is. 

 But all you have are 36 counts of fraud, all because when he reimbursed his attorney for arranging a perfectly legal non-disclosure agreement, his bookkeeper listed it as a legal expense.

 

And that will be overturned on appeal immediately after sentencing. 

On 11/27/2024 at 7:44 AM, john donson said:

jan 6, is it not in the constitution that when  'we' the people blabla 

 

was not really a revolution because they would have ended anybody involved,  france 1789 style

 

what about all the instigating undercover FBI agents stirring the crowd?

I think Bondi and the new Fbi director will

shed light on this.

7 minutes ago, riclag said:

I think Bondi and the new Fbi director will

shed light on this.

I think Pam's up-sizing her strap-on...

On 11/28/2024 at 11:54 AM, Yellowtail said:

36 counts of fraud, all because when he reimbursed his attorney for arranging a perfectly legal non-disclosure agreement, his bookkeeper listed it as a legal expense.  

 

 

Coordinated! Joe said we’re gonna use the constitution to make sure Trump

doesnt get to the WH.

 

All the dems thought about was blocking 

Trumps legal exceptions in NYC.

Doj joined Bragg , who at one time was against pursuing Trump . They found the right judge( dem Merchan) who gaged Trump & wouldn’t allow a change of venue ( Manhattan’s voters are 90% dems ) . It was etched in stone they would get a favorable ruling .

Where is Robert DeNero ?

 

 

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

No convition

Case dismissed

No conviction, will be dropped 

Please go on. But all you have are 36 counts of fraud, all because when he reimbursed his attorney for arranging a perfectly legal non-disclosure agreement, his bookkeeper listed it as a legal expense.  

Jackbooted from misdemeanor  to a felony, in NY.

Dems invented charges, as they went along.

 

Evil Stalinist tactics 

On 11/27/2024 at 10:49 AM, Albo said:

I believe Trump stated he would pardon Hunter if he was Biden. That he would pardon his own son.

 

He should pardon Hunter. Why not? His reputation is shambles anyway.

 

Biden should have pardoned Hunter on day one of his term, just to reduce the appearance of sitting across the negotiating table from adversarial world leaders that may have had evidence that could put his kid away for a loooong time.  It would have hurt him at the polls in 2024, but it would have been the right thing to do for national security. 

 

And 2024 took care of itself anyway.

 

BTW, I say that, not as a fan of Hunter or his antics.  But national security (and world peace) are bigger than one addict's penance.

 

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Biden should have pardoned Hunter on day one of his term, just to reduce the appearance of sitting across the negotiating table from adversarial world leaders that may have had evidence that could put his kid away for a loooong time.  It would have hurt him at the polls in 2024, but it would have been the right thing to do for national security. 

 

And 2024 took care of itself anyway.

 

BTW, I say that, not as a fan of Hunter or his antics.  But national security (and world peace) are bigger than one addict's penance.

 

No one should EVER receive a pardon except obviously innocent. Everyone, including the ruling elite, should be subject to the laws of the nation.

24 minutes ago, mikebike said:

27 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Biden should have pardoned Hunter on day one of his term, just to reduce the appearance of sitting across the negotiating table from adversarial world leaders that may have had evidence that could put his kid away for a loooong time.  It would have hurt him at the polls in 2024, but it would have been the right thing to do for national security. 

 

And 2024 took care of itself anyway.

 

BTW, I say that, not as a fan of Hunter or his antics.  But national security (and world peace) are bigger than one addict's penance.

 

Expand  

No one should EVER receive a pardon except obviously innocent. Everyone, including the ruling elite, should be subject to the laws of the nation.

 

In an ideal world, I'd agree with you.  I'd also hope that voters wouldn't have elected such a vulnerable candidate had they known the laptop was real.

 

Once he was inaugurated, national security should have taken precedence, and he should have eliminated all the potential conflicts by pardoning Hunter.  That way, there would have been no risk he'd be compromised in any negotiation.

 

On 11/27/2024 at 9:27 AM, Walker88 said:

This is good news for people like me who still hold lots of secrets from our days in the agency and carrying TS/SCI  and (actual) Q clearances (not the silly Q as in QAnon, but Q as in a clearance to see nuclear related intel at the DoE).

 

It's okay to use highly classified material in any way we so choose. Eff US national security. Monetize the secrets if that is to one's advantage.

 

I was fortunate enough to become wealthy after I left the agency, but folks still working there, who now know both intelligence and the US itself are dying or dead, might as well use their knowledge for personal advantage.

 

Imagine what Putin would pay to know whom in his inner circle is a clandestine asset for the CIA ! Even al Qaeda is flush with cash, and they would pay to know what US intel knows. And then there's weapons systems...China and Russia would love to know what the US military can do, and what is in the pipeline. Ka-ching! It's auction time!

 

45 stole highly classified intel regarding everything from nukes to weapons systems to order of battle to identities of clandestine assets in hostile nations or areas. I have no doubt whatsoever he intended to monetize it, as clearly he needed cash (why else would he schlepp silly NFTs, golden sneakers, commemorative coins, Chines-made Bibles, Chinese watches, and now rip offs of Les Paul guitars?) If it's good for the goose.....

 

SC Smith is wise enough to know the system is broken. Institutions failed. The rule of law no longer exists in many ways. Some folks are above the law. Even the stacked Supreme Court says Madison and Jefferson were wrong and that the US is kind of a monarchy. Little guys---like a guy who took a doc or two home to work on the weekend---get 12 years in jail, but a guy who put national security and the identities of clandestine assets and programs at risk gets re-elected to the White House.

 

The people got what they think they want, but it will come with consequences. Liaison cooperation is finished for at least the next 4 years. No more Five Eyes. Also, no sharing of intel with non-Five Eyes nations like France, Japan, South Korea, Israel, etc.  They all know 47 cannot be trusted, and neither can Tulsi Gabbard be trusted. The risks that were thwarted because of liaison cooperation now have a wide open door to get the US. So be it. That's what the democratic majority wanted, so give it to them in spades. Terror attack, dirty bomb, bioterror, disrupt the electric grid, poison water supplies....enjoy!

 

In the meantime, my former colleagues, see what you've got and think of who might make your 401K sing paying for it.

 

Anybody want to know what Putin has on 47 and who told me? It's going to cost you.

Translation: Im such a confirmed Leftist that I would sell out my country if I could

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2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

In an ideal world, I'd agree with you.  I'd also hope that voters wouldn't have elected such a vulnerable candidate had they known the laptop was real.

 

Once he was inaugurated, national security should have taken precedence, and he should have eliminated all the potential conflicts by pardoning Hunter.  That way, there would have been no risk he'd be compromised in any negotiation.

 

No. You learned the absolute WRONG lesson. He should not be allowed to pardon ANYONE. Much less his own son.

13 hours ago, mikebike said:

No. You learned the absolute WRONG lesson. He should not be allowed to pardon ANYONE. Much less his own son.

All the sudden the left is opposed to pardons….