35 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Have no idea what you're trying to say.

Everyone is for deporting undocumented serious criminals.

Just being undocumented is not a serious crime.

Deporting 20 million people, tearing apart families with citizens, would devastate the economy. 

Gonna start with the 1.5 million or so who are already under deportation orders. Then those in jail or on charges. Then the recent border crossers who are littering the streets. 

 

I am sure there will be some allowance made for those long term and genuinely hard working folks, but that is down the line a ways. First priority is to close the border, second is to get rid of the serious troublemakers as I said above. 

 

But there will be no tearing apart families. Families who see a member deported will of course be allowed to accompany that person back to their country of origin. 

15 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Yes Trump did win.

 

Biden had no mandate to allow millions of illegals into the country, yet he did so. Biden had no mandate to attack the oil industry, yet he did so. Did they even have a mandate for a proxy war in Ukraine or to support the israelis? I don't believe they had a referendum on that.

 

In the US version of democracy, the government doesn't need a mandate to do whatever it wants.

As you're asking.

 

No Biden didn't have majority support for his too loose immigration policies.

 

Yes Biden had strong majority support to help Ukraine defend against the Russian invaders.

 

I reject your Russian talking point proxy war narrative. 

 

Yes less so but Biden had majority support to stand with close ally Israel. 

6 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Gonna start with the 1.5 million or so who are already under deportation orders. Then those in jail or on charges. Then the recent border crossers who are littering the streets. 

 

I am sure there will be some allowance made for those long term and genuinely hard working folks, but that is down the line a ways. First priority is to close the border, second is to get rid of the serious troublemakers as I said above. 

 

But there will be no tearing apart families. Families who see a member deported will of course be allowed to accompany that person back to their country of origin. 

A Canadian still sticking nose in America's business.  None of your business.  Get out!

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Gonna start with the 1.5 million or so who are already under deportation orders. Then those in jail or on charges. Then the recent border crossers who are littering the streets. 

 

I am sure there will be some allowance made for those long term and genuinely hard working folks, but that is down the line a ways. First priority is to close the border, second is to get rid of the serious troublemakers as I said above. 

 

But there will be no tearing apart families. Families who see a member deported will of course be allowed to accompany that person back to their country of origin. 

What a crock!

Trump himself has said that his deportation plans will be bloody.

Nobody believes that families won't be torn apart.

You're making up stuff that hard working migrants will be given an easier time.

With maga cruelty is the point.

15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

What a crock!

Trump himself has said that his deportation plans will be bloody.

Nobody believes that families won't be torn apart.

You're making up stuff that hard working migrants will be given an easier time.

With maga cruelty is the point.

 

Obama deported millions, did you cry about that and call it bloody?

"Calls up the Military against his own people", what a hell are you taking about?

29 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Obama deported millions, did you cry about that and call it bloody?

No.

Trump's stated goals are massively more extreme.

Trump himself said bloody.

I am only repeating his description.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-migrants-bloody-story-border-control-deportation-1950386

25 minutes ago, Jorn T said:

"Calls up the Military against his own people", what a hell are you taking about?

The facts of Trump's stated policy.

 

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/4935363-trump-proposes-deploying-troops-radical-left/

25 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No.

Trump's stated goals are massively more extreme.

Trump himself said bloody.

I am only repeating his description.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-migrants-bloody-story-border-control-deportation-1950386

 

Massively larger due to the many millions your mates Biden and Harris just let stroll in and start getting handouts. Nobody wants illegals, nobody asked them to come and nobody likes them. They all need to go home.

7 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Massively larger due to the many millions your mates Biden and Harris just let stroll in and start getting handouts. Nobody wants illegals, nobody asked them to come and nobody likes them. They all need to go home.

Big business wants illegals.

The social security fund wants illegals.

The restaurant and agricultural Industries want illegals.

The majority of Americans want a path towards legalization and comprehensive Immigration reform.

Trump maga doesn't.

Just as last time Trump won, the share market has exploded, which means the economy will do the same...must be doing something right..

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Big business wants illegals.

The social security fund wants illegals.

The restaurant and agricultural Industries want illegals.

The majority of Americans want a path towards legalixation and comprehensive Immigration reform.

Trump.maga doesn't.

 

   So then they become legal and the costs involved , employers wouldn't want them because they are too expensive  and they would want more illegals ?

15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The majority of Americans want a path towards legalization and comprehensive Immigration reform.

 

The majority of Americans voted................MAGA.

22 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Big business wants illegals.

The social security fund wants illegals.

The restaurant and agricultural Industries want illegals.

The majority of Americans want a path towards legalization and comprehensive Immigration reform.

Trump maga doesn't.

 

The LAW does not want illegals

24 minutes ago, Johno57 said:

Just as last time Trump won, the share market has exploded, which means the economy will do the same...must be doing something right..

So when it crashes under Trump, which it will, you will then blame Trump? When pigs fly.

13 minutes ago, proton said:

 

The LAW does not want illegals

I find that concept funny. Does the law prefer jockeys or boxers?

 

Does the law prefer former California attorney general Harris or felon Donald Trump?

 

Hmm. 

22 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I find that concept funny. Does the law prefer jockeys or boxers?

The law has no interest in this.

23 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Does the law prefer former California attorney general Harris or felon Donald Trump?

The law prefers Trump, given that he legally won the election.

6 hours ago, 248900_1469958220 said:

Are you still rabbiting on about the election Jingthing??? Just when I thought the liberal meltdown may have been waning....its the gift that just keeps on giving!! He isnt even in office yet....I have the popcorn ready. A lot of people are happy to see the back of the Dems...A LOT. Seems you cannot seem to come to terms with this...I am overjoyed you are having a hissy fit...OVER JOYED I said!! 

 

keep it up. 

He'll be at it for the next four years.

42 minutes ago, novacova said:

The law has no interest in this.

The law prefers Trump, given that he legally won the election.

Interesting considering how lawless Trump is. 

22 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Here is the proof:

 

It's impossible not to notice that the maga pro autocracy cult sore winners have been indulging in a nauseating virtual orgy of gloating and are trying to gaslight the masses that Trump has BOTH a mandate in votes AND a mandate for his extremist policies. But that is another Trumpist BIG LIE and don't y'all ever forget it.

 

To be clear, Trump did win. There is no doubt. 

 

But winning and having a mandate in votes and for extremist policies are NOT the same thing.

 

So take note.

 

Pay attention to this going forward.

 

So for example when Trump calls up the MILITARY against his own people to help with his mass deportations or calls for national guards to cross state lines (from red to blue states in true civil war fashion) be clear, the majority never wanted things to get that extreme. 

 

"Starr County had not voted for a Republican in a presidential election since 1896.  According to the 2020 Census, the county has 65,920 residents with 97 percent identifying as Hispanic or Latino."

 

Looks like somebody is mad Mexican-Americans and Latinos expressed their frustration at unchecked immigration with their votes.  If only those dumb Latinos were as enlightened as Jingthing Trump would not have won.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said:

 

"Starr County had not voted for a Republican in a presidential election since 1896.  According to the 2020 Census, the county has 65,920 residents with 97 percent identifying as Hispanic or Latino."

 

Looks like somebody is mad Mexican-Americans and Latinos expressed their frustration at unchecked immigration with their votes.  If only those dumb Latinos were as enlightened as Jingthing Trump would not have won.

 

 

Ask them later when their family members are sent to concentration camps and deported.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Trump's stated goals are massively more extreme.

Trump himself said bloody.

 

The usual hysteria and distortion. Trump said nothing about any "goal" to be bloody.

 

The reality is that getting all those criminal gang members, drug dealers, rapists, and thugs, at least, out of the USA will surely be bloody, yes, just as eradicating Hamas is bloody. Not all will go quietly and they have guns. So be it.

Man accused of shooting NYPD officers charged, claims guns are being smuggled into NYC migrant shelters

 

 

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Trump maga doesn't.

 

Most Americans including Trump voters want stricttly controlled legal immigration and paths to citizenship for those qualified. Meaningful reform of immigration laws is planned and now that Repubs have got both Houses, a conservative SCOTUS, and the popular vote, it may finally be possible.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

felon Donald Trump

 

A liberal talking point we love. Trump has not been convicted of any felony. A biased liberal jury has delivered a verdict. Guilt hasn't been entered into judgement, sentencing hasn't happened. The whole thing will probably be thrown out and certainly overturned on appeal, as Merchan has committed so many potentially reversible errors.

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Big business wants illegals.

The social security fund wants illegals.

The restaurant and agricultural Industries want illegals.

The majority of Americans want a path towards legalization and comprehensive Immigration reform.

Trump maga doesn't.

I assume that you have some statistics or surveys to back up those claims...

4 hours ago, LatPhrao said:

A Canadian still sticking nose in America's business.  None of your business.  Get out!

Ah, but it IS my business. My country sadly contributes to the problem that the US has along its borders, and my feckless Prime Minister does nothing to stop it. 

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seems some are incapable of understanding that Trump was elected BECAUSE he doesn't follow the rules. The rules were designed to allow an elite political class to continue their rule, but people that voted for Trump want him to blow the whole thing up and start over, IMO.

 

So, the people rule then. Just as it should be.

8 hours ago, Jorn T said:

"Calls up the Military against his own people", what a hell are you taking about?

Apparently some on here believe the Dem propaganda. Expect Trump to be blamed by them for everything that goes wrong from here on in, in America, on the planet, the universe, the galaxy and the universe. If a black hole consumes the solar system it'll be Trump's fault.

9 hours ago, LatPhrao said:

A Canadian still sticking nose in America's business.  None of your business.  Get out!

Make him!

 

9 hours ago, Jorn T said:

"Calls up the Military against his own people", what a hell are you taking about?

 

Maybe he's talking about a president ordering drone strike executions of American citizens without trial?

 

That would be.........oh, wait....never mind.

That was Obama.

 

Ummmm..........Trump bad!