Trump the convicted felon gets off so why not Bidens son?

[SunnyinBangrak]

Wasn't very long ago, but observers who realized the laptop was Hunters, and there was a reason why foreign adversarial countries where VP Joe had massive power and influence were paying the Bidrn family 10s of millions of $$ were called "conspiracy theorists" and members of a cult.

I wonder if old lightening bolt and his chums will be along to apologize for the years of gaslighting and lying?

[blaze master]

Just now, SunnyinBangrak said:

Wasn't very long ago, but observers who realized the laptop was Hunters, and there was a reason why foreign adversarial countries where VP Joe had massive power and influence were paying the Bidrn family 10s of millions of $$ were called "conspiracy theorists" and members of a cult.

I wonder if old lightening bolt and his chums will be along to apologize for the years of gaslighting and lying?

 

Not likely. Many are digging in and even doubling down. Truly amazing. 

[transam]

Just now, blaze master said:

 

Not likely. Many are digging in and even doubling down. Truly amazing. 

Who, tell all..........?  

[retayl]

23 hours ago, BigStar said:

 

Why not? He already has. Trump graduated from Wharton, top school. Obviously, you're just projecting.

Trump attended Wharton because of his wealthy father. Professor William T. Kelley, his tutor is on record as saying “he was the goddam dumbest student I ever had”.

[MangoKorat]

Its probably better to discuss this matter after Trump takes office and the full extent of his self pardoning and instructions to cancel current ongoing cases and investigations etc. is known.

[BigStar]

4 minutes ago, retayl said:

Trump attended Wharton because of his wealthy father. Professor William T. Kelley, his tutor is on record as saying “he was the goddam dumbest student I ever had”.

 

To repeat: Trump graduated from Wharton, a top school.

[japanese]

10 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

You've succumbed to the misinformation typical of those on the right.

In NY state, the jury determines guilt vs innocence.  If guilty verdict or guilty plea a criminal defendant is convicted.  The judge then sets the sentence.  The final step is the judge ends the case.  Appeals cannot be filed prior to the judge's closing of the case.

 

Trump has been found guilty and according to NY state courts is now a convicted felon.  See here for the definitions of legal terms published by the NY state courts:  

https://www.nycourts.gov/courthelp/goingtocourt/glossary.shtml

 

Here's the pertinent text for those unwilling to read information that doesn't fit their personal viewpoint:

conviction:   In a criminal case.  A finding of guilt either by plea or by trial.

 

Don't you ever wonder why the extremely litigious Trump hasn't sued the media/opponents for incorrectly calling him convicted?  Simply stated... he doesn't have any facts on his side and would once more suffer complete legal embarrassment.

Seems the glossary was just out together to give the lay person a rough idea.  NY law requires the verdict to be entered before a person is considered convicted:

 

https://www.lawfletcher.com/criminal-defense/law/conviction/#:~:text=What is a conviction?,more counts of such instrument.

[transam]

4 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

To repeat: Trump graduated from Wharton, a top school.

Was it the same way he avoided Vietnam.........

[retayl]

4 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

To repeat: Trump graduated from Wharton, a top school.

Yep and threatened them with civil and criminal action should they ever disclose his grades.

[riclag]

4 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Wasn't very long ago, but observers who realized the laptop was Hunters, and there was a reason why foreign adversarial countries where VP Joe had massive power and influence were paying the Bidrn family 10s of millions of $$ were called "conspiracy theorists" and members of a cult.

I wonder if old lightening bolt and his chums will be along to apologize for the years of gaslighting and lying?

The dreaded Lighting bolt , i wouldnt be  surprised 

if its lurking using a different icon!

 

We’ve Come a long way since those dreaded days , of unexpected time outs!

 

Joe Biden through his pardon ,all the way back to 2014 just confirmed his and his family’s involvement in the biggest corruption scheme since Nixon.

 

 

 

 

[transam]

1 minute ago, riclag said:

The dreaded Lighting bolt , i wouldnt be  surprised 

if its lurking using a different icon!

 

We’ve Come a long way since those dreaded days , of unexpected time outs!

 

Joe Biden through his pardon ,all the way back to 2014 just confirmed his and his family’s involvement in the biggest corruption scheme since Nixon.

 

 

 

 

Your man........

 

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/02/27/trumps-lawyer-no-basis-for-presidents-medical-deferment-from-vietnam/

[Liverpool Lou]

31 minutes ago, riclag said:

23 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"Trump the convicted felon gets off so why not Bidens son?"

 

Because Trump (and Biden) are protected by Presidential immunity, the deplorable waste-of-space current President's son isn't.

Lou, This is just another delusional leftist opinion piece !

 

Trump isn’t a convicted felon nor is a criminal! Too The whole Trump hating 

world you are missing the adjudicated sentence , judgement.

"Lou, This is just another delusional leftist opinion piece!"

I know.

 

Trump isn’t a convicted felon nor is a criminal!

I know.

 

"Too The whole Trump hating world you are missing the adjudicated sentence , judgement"

I know, I am missing nothing.

[riclag]

14 minutes ago, retayl said:

Trump attended Wharton because of his wealthy father. Professor William T. Kelley, his tutor is on record as saying “he was the goddam dumbest student I ever had”.

You need to post a source for the pre Trump first administration hit piece statement from 2017.

 

Trump went on to lead the country for 4 years without any wars and because of his achievements economically ( barring covid shut downs) he was  re elected for these achievements!

[SunnyinBangrak]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Your man........

 

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/02/27/trumps-lawyer-no-basis-for-presidents-medical-deferment-from-vietnam/

What does the pacifist Trump who had multiple Vietnam war deferments for bonespurs, and lifeguard Biden who had multiple deferments for his asthma(seriously!) got to do with this sudden revelation to the left that the Bidens WERE selling out America to enemy states for cash?

Seems both off topic and desperate.

[Celsius]

tax evasion, guns, crack and most likely cp

[BigStar]

15 minutes ago, retayl said:

Yep and threatened them with civil and criminal action should they ever disclose his grades.

 

Neither here nor there. He graduated. His record is understandably private, just as Obama's are: Obama never released his transcripts from Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard. That doesn't bother you, of course. 🙂 Privacy laws prevent unis from releasing private records; no need to threaten. Hearsay, rumors, attacks by leftists, sometimes paid, have no credibility. You remember when your gullible self sucked up:

 

Edited 21 hours ago by BigStar

[thailand49]

27 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

What ?

 

Can I get the lottery numbers while you're at it. 

Hold your stinky breath while I dig them up!

[transam]

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

What does the pacifist Trump who had multiple Vietnam war deferments for bonespurs, and lifeguard Biden who had multiple deferments for his asthma(seriously!) got to do with this sudden revelation to the left that the Bidens WERE selling out America to enemy states for cash?

Seems both off topic and desperate.

No, just showing Trump is dodgy, just to get a level playing field.....

I should have posted that when Waltz was getting flack for dodging..

[retayl]

5 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

Neither here nor there. He graduated. His record is understandably private, just as Obama's are: Obama never released his transcripts from Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard. That doesn't bother you, of course. 🙂 Hearsay, rumors, attacks by leftists, sometimes paid, have no credibility. You remember when your gullible self sucked up:

 

Irrelevant. The subject is Trump, not interested in whataboutery.  I have always considered Biden a buffoon and Obama false & shallow.

[riclag]

13 minutes ago, japanese said:

Seems the glossary was just out together to give the lay person a rough idea.  NY law requires the verdict to be entered before a person is considered convicted:

 

https://www.lawfletcher.com/criminal-defense/law/conviction/#:~:text=What is a conviction?,more counts of such instrument.

Jesus or Dem Congressman Goldman) could come down from the heavens and proclaim this to the world and the extreme Trump haters wouldn’t believe it! The only recourse is to keep expert sources saying the same thing over and over again. Some day it will sink in through the syndrome fog that possesses their brain.

No adjudication,No sentence , equals ,no judgment.

 

 

Yale law expert ” You aren’t convicted until the judge

enters a judgement of guilt “.

 

https://nypost.com/2024/06/08/us-news/yale-law-professor-says-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-despite-guilty-verdict-heres-why/

 

 

 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

57 minutes ago, retayl said:

Trump attended Wharton because of his wealthy father. Professor William T. Kelley, his tutor is on record as saying “he was the goddam dumbest student I ever had”.

In 1988, New York magazine reported that ...Trump had gotten merely the "highest grades possible."

[blaze master]

41 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

Hold your stinky breath while I dig them up!

 

Nice childish dig.

[Liverpool Lou]

38 minutes ago, transam said:

I should have posted that when Waltz was getting flack for dodging..

You mean Tim Walz, not Michael Waltz the Republican, surely?

[gamb00ler]

1 hour ago, japanese said:

Seems the glossary was just out together to give the lay person a rough idea.  NY law requires the verdict to be entered before a person is considered convicted:

 

https://www.lawfletcher.com/criminal-defense/law/conviction/#:~:text=What is a conviction?,more counts of such instrument.

Where does your link described the process where the "verdict to be entered"?  That happens when the jury reaches a unanimous decision, returns to the court and jury foreman delivers it.  The verdict is undoubtedly recorded and then the case proceeds to the sentencing phase.  The Trump NY trial is in that sentencing phase.

 

Did you read the first line of text on the page you quoted?  Or rather I should ask did you understand the simple English statement I have copied below.  That looks amazingly similar to the definition given in the glossary.

 

Thanks for playing.... you still have 2 more tries before striking out completely.  Please put forth a better effort... it's somewhat embarrassing having to explain this stuff to so many desperate Trumpers.

 

"Conviction" means the entry of a plea of guilty to, or a verdict of guilty upon, an accusatory instrument other than a felony complaint, or to one or more counts of such instrument.

Edited 20 hours ago by gamb00ler

[Liverpool Lou]

2 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

id you read the first line of text on the page you quoted?  Or rather I should ask did you understand the simple English statement I have copied below.  That looks amazingly similar to the definition given in the glossary.

 

Thanks for playing.... you still have 2 more tries before striking out completely.  Please put forth a better effort... it's somewhat embarrassing having to explain this stuff to so many desperate Trumpers.

 

"Conviction" means the entry of a plea of guilty to, or a verdict of guilty upon, an accusatory instrument other than a felony complaint, or to one or more counts of such instrument.

Did you read that quote that refers to "an accusatory instrument other than a felony"?

[japanese]

5 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Where does your link described the process where the "verdict to be entered"?  That happens when the jury reaches a unanimous decision, returns to the court and jury foreman delivers it.  The verdict is undoubtedly recorded and then the case proceeds to the sentencing phase.  The Trump NY trial is in that sentencing phase.

 

Did you read the first line of text on the page you quoted?  Or rather I should ask did you understand the simple English statement I have copied below.  That looks amazingly similar to the definition given in the glossary.

 

Thanks for playing.... you still have 2 more tries before striking out completely.  Please put forth a better effort... it's somewhat embarrassing having to explain this stuff to so many desperate Trumpers.

 

"Conviction" means the entry of a plea of guilty to, or a verdict of guilty upon, an accusatory instrument other than a felony complaint, or to one or more counts of such instrument.

Do you know what 'other than' means?

[gamb00ler]

13 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Did you read that quote that refers to "an accusatory instrument other than a felony"?

The felony charges in NY state vs Trump were from a grand jury indictment... not a felony complaint.

 

In New York, felonies typically require a grand jury indictment to move forward with formal charges.

The prosecutor presents evidence to a grand jury, a panel of citizens, and the grand jury decides whether there is enough evidence to formally charge the person with a felony. If the grand jury finds sufficient evidence, it issues an indictment.

The defendant does not have a right to be present at the grand jury proceedings, but they may have a lawyer assist them in preparing for the process.

Alternatively, in some cases, the defendant may waive the grand jury process, and the case can proceed via a felony complaint.

 

Do not pass GO, and do not collect $200.

 

Please up your games.... my interest in educating Trumpers is waning quickly

Edited 20 hours ago by gamb00ler

[BigStar]

1 hour ago, retayl said:

Irrelevant. The subject is Trump, not interested in whataboutery.  I have always considered Biden a buffoon and Obama false & shallow.

 

Relevant, as it addresses the credibility of your whataboutism that you pretend you don't believe in: the meaningless repetition of hearsay, rumor, and usual leftist attacks that you've sucked up and repeated here as if it's relevant to the fact that Trump graduated from Wharton.

 

It doesn't matter what you consider; whatever it is, is likely to be wrong anyway.

Edited 20 hours ago by BigStar

[thailand49]

23 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Nice childish dig.

🤣 It fits your child like thinking lottery number!  🤣

[gamb00ler]

7 minutes ago, BigStar said:

the fact that Trump graduated from Wharton

I would love the opportunity to bet that Trumps grades at Wharton would at best be considered embarrassing.  If they were are least average Trump would insist on them being published.  Remember Trump is the guy who had fake covers of Time created and hung in five of his golf clubs.