Here we go. Mega MAGA Mess is coming. Is SS, MediCare etc gone... soon?

[AlexRich]

2 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

No,that's just silly. You're much better suited for blueanon.

And you Grinder.

[Yellowtail]

7 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

And you Grinder.

Another leftist homophobe 

[blaze master]

14 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

And you Grinder.

 

How inclusive and progressive. 

[cdemundo]

The terminology is the Social Security Trust Fund.

That money is held in trust for the workers that paid into the trust fund.

 

 

Unfortunately the person who is gonna look into waste and fraud, Elon Musk, is a beneficiary of the biggest area of waste and fraud in the Federal budget, the "defense" budget.

[cdemundo]

20 hours ago, TedG said:

Please explain how imposing tariffs and cutting taxes have anything to do with the OP's post.   Do you know Social Security has run a deficit since 2010?   Do you know that Social Security accounts for 21% of the federal budget?   Do you know that Medicare/Medicaid/ACA/CHIPS accounts for 24% of the federal budget?  Add in welfare with 545 billion or 8% of the federal budget.  These programs consume 53% of the federal budget. 

Social security is funded by worker payroll tax contributions to ... Social Security.

Those funds are not part of the general federal budget to ba allocated elsewhere.

 

The elephant in the room is the "defense" budget.

Cue the sheeple to stand up and put their hands over their hearts and shed a tear for our fighting men. Wrong.

The defense budget fattens the wallets of stockholders in General Dynamics, Lockheed, Honeywell and a thousand other defense contractors, the money isn't going to soldiers, sailors and airmen.

[rasg]

On 12/4/2024 at 10:28 AM, Lacessit said:

3/ RFK is an antivaxxer, and antifluoride crusader. You might trust a guy who says a worm ate his brain, I don't. Crazy as a bedbug.

That's really strange because in September a court in Texas ruled that using flouride in the water poses an unreasonable risk to children. Maybe he's not as crazy as you think he is.

https://vigilantnews.com/post/victory-fluoride-in-water-poses-unreasonable-risk-to-children-federal-judge-rules/

[cdemundo]

On 12/4/2024 at 7:00 PM, RichardColeman said:

Another sore loser. Lets put what the democrats have done into perspective. I think it was somewhere like Denver recently published annual budget figures. 8% of their budget went on migrants - it totally about $7900 odd per migrant, call it 8000, Dementia Joe let on something like 20,000,000 illegals - you times that by 8,000 dollars and you get what 160,000,000,000 dollars wasted on illegal migrants. Imagine what 160 billion dollars could do for social security ? Typical democrat perspective , we made a mess, but let's forget that. You want better social security, fine deport 20 million illegals ! 

Not clear what you are saying.

The Denver municipal budget?

Don't see how that has any bearing on Federal spending programs.

[ericthai]

On 12/4/2024 at 5:28 AM, Lacessit said:

1/ In his last presidency, he milked $240 million from American taxpayers by playing golf on his properties, then having his secret service detail billeted on said properties at an average of $800,000 each time. He played golf over 300 times.

 

2/ The poor saps who depend on social security and food stamps, of course.

 

3/ RFK is an antivaxxer, and antifluoride crusader. You might trust a guy who says a worm ate his brain, I don't. Crazy as a bedbug.

 

why does fluoride need to be in the water? 

Most people drink bottled water these days or they have a filter system in their house therefore most people are not drinking tap water, this is just one of the examples of government waste of money and resources. 

 

Kids get fluoride from toothpaste, mouthwash, plus natural ways ( grapes, black tea, spinach, potatoes, soda, etc) why does there need to be more?

[radiochaser]

2 hours ago, ericthai said:

 

why does fluoride need to be in the water? 

Most people drink bottled water these days or they have a filter system in their house therefore most people are not drinking tap water, this is just one of the examples of government waste of money and resources. 

 

Kids get fluoride from toothpaste, mouthwash, plus natural ways ( grapes, black tea, spinach, potatoes, soda, etc) why does there need to be more?

I drank well water as a kid, that has fluoride in it.  

[Hawaiian]

34 minutes ago, radiochaser said:

I drank well water as a kid, that has fluoride in it.  

The amount of fluoride in well water varies from region to region.

Only testing can tell you how much and testing is very expensive.

[Jim Blue]

On 12/4/2024 at 5:38 AM, Cryingdick said:

Probably time to put some of the old timers out on the pack ice so society can thrive.

Pack ice ?  I thought the world was supposed to be warming ?

[radiochaser]

6 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

The amount of fluoride in well water varies from region to region.

Only testing can tell you how much and testing is very expensive.

I found the information in a magazine years ago.  Someone did the testing but I don't recall and I don't' think there was, any percentage or amount per gallon specified in the article.   

[Will B Good]

13 hours ago, rasg said:

That's really strange because in September a court in Texas ruled that using flouride in the water poses an unreasonable risk to children. Maybe he's not as crazy as you think he is.

https://vigilantnews.com/post/victory-fluoride-in-water-poses-unreasonable-risk-to-children-federal-judge-rules/

 

I wonder what action the government is going to take about all the water supplies that naturally have fluoride levels above the current EPA safe levels.......sounds like this could be a very expensive judgement.

[NoDisplayName]

14 hours ago, cdemundo said:

Unfortunately the person who is gonna look into waste and fraud, Elon Musk, is a beneficiary of the biggest area of waste and fraud in the Federal budget, the "defense" budget.

 

Who needs Musk when your $zillion space program has to rely on the soviets to bring your astronauts home?

 

Musk is just another loser Trump fan boy, like, what's he ever accomplished?

 

SpaceX launched 362 metric tons of payload to space in the third quarter of 2024, accounting for 85.7% of all global upmass. The company also conducted 518 launches, representing 63% of all space missions during this period.

https://www.newsminimalist.com/articles/spacex-launches-86percent-of-global-payload-to-space-in-third-quarter-of-2024-452b896c

 

 

[cdemundo]

4 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Who needs Musk when your $zillion space program has to rely on the soviets to bring your astronauts home?

 

Musk is just another loser Trump fan boy, like, what's he ever accomplished?

 

SpaceX launched 362 metric tons of payload to space in the third quarter of 2024, accounting for 85.7% of all global upmass. The company also conducted 518 launches, representing 63% of all space missions during this period.

https://www.newsminimalist.com/articles/spacex-launches-86percent-of-global-payload-to-space-in-third-quarter-of-2024-452b896c

 

 

Musk had absolutely accomplished an amazing number of things with his companies.

 

The fact remains that he has a possible conflict of interest in when looking into Federal waste of money when his companies receive large amounts of money from the feds.

 

"Who needs Musk when your $zillion space program has to rely on the soviets to bring your astronauts home?"

No doubt you were trying to make a point with this. Is it that you don't like NASA?

[NoDisplayName]

4 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

"Who needs Musk when your $zillion space program has to rely on the soviets to bring your astronauts home?"

No doubt you were trying to make a point with this. Is it that you don't like NASA?

 

Not at all!

 

I love a NASA not bloated with DEI hires.

A NASA that prioritizes science over ideology.

A NASA that could reach the moon with slide-rules and computers with less processing power than a mid-range cellphone.

 

I skipped kindergarten to watch the moon landing live on the TV.

They accomplished great things, in the olden days.

Yet now they are unable to return stranded astronauts to Earth.

 

[RetiredNavy71]

On 12/3/2024 at 10:50 PM, Yellowtail said:

I think's it's great, cut away.

So what happens when you get old and need SS and Medicare and it's not there? Be careful what you wish for 

[RJRS1301]

On 12/4/2024 at 8:36 AM, Hawaiian said:

Before any cuts are made an honest and hard attempt to cut waste and fraud needs to be done.  Trump did mention attacking fraud in the link provided.

Perhaps he could look at his own fraud, after all he is an expert on ripping everyone off

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, RJRS1301 said:

Perhaps he could look at his own fraud, after all he is an expert on ripping everyone off

Don't know about you, but I never got ripped off from him.  However, I do feel for those that did.

[Hawaiian]

1 hour ago, RetiredNavy71 said:

So what happens when you get old and need SS and Medicare and it's not there? Be careful what you wish for 

Can Trump unilaterally cut SS and Medicare?  I don't think so.  Like many others, I have contributed to both, as an employer and employee.  Revolutions have been started over such things.

[RetiredNavy71]

2 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Can Trump unilaterally cut SS and Medicare?  I don't think so.  Like many others, I have contributed to both, as an employer and employee.  Revolutions have been started over such things.

I don't think Trump can unilaterally do any of those things without Congressional and Senate approval. Cutting those vital programs would be suicidal at best

[Yellowtail]

6 hours ago, RetiredNavy71 said:

So what happens when you get old and need SS and Medicare and it's not there? Be careful what you wish for 

I'm old and on Social Security and Medicare. I've never used the Medicare but pay for it every month. 

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, RetiredNavy71 said:

I don't think Trump can unilaterally do any of those things without Congressional and Senate approval. Cutting those vital programs would be suicidal at best

Only cutting the actual benefit component is "vital" to anyone. As long as you get the same payment every month, would you not want the taxpayers to pay as little as possible for you to get it? 

 

I think many of Trump's policies will help drive revenue for Social Security and Medicare up. 

[newbee2022]

On 12/4/2024 at 5:36 AM, Hawaiian said:

Before any cuts are made an honest and hard attempt to cut waste and fraud needs to be done.  Trump did mention attacking fraud in the link provided.

How he wants to cut waste and frauds??? By not to becoming POTUS?

Halleluja 🤗🤗🤗. Good move🙏

[transam]

6 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

Perhaps he could look at his own fraud, after all he is an expert on ripping everyone off

Well said, the Trump voters...............have nooooo idea about that stuff.............................

[Airalee]

On 12/5/2024 at 10:14 AM, Eric Loh said:

It’s the government responsibilities to take care of the health and social well being of their people.

When do some of recipients need to take responsibility for their own health?  
 

Why does SNAP cover the crap that these obese land whales stuff their pieholes with? 

over 1000 results for SNAP and EBT just for chocolate?!!!

 

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=chocolate&rh=p_n_program_participation%3A17428820011&dc&ds=v1%3AmSXwuD%2Fy2RepJLgGJDauN%2B5vQ6NgA4YrZnnIr5eNFkA&crid=2IQ0VK4PZRYBC&qid=1733552509&rnid=17428819011&sprefix=Cho%2Caps%2C355&ref=sr_nr_p_n_program_participation_1

 

Are healthy people supposed to subsidize diets of Doritos and Mountain Dew?

Why are these fatties not required to exercise?

 

The ACA was a complete scam.  I haven’t been able to buy health insurance through it ever.  
 

Instead, I was approved for Medicaid….only because I’m one of those people they can hit with the clawback provision but will not give me any control over the healthcare or provider I choose.

 

That’s why I moved to Thailand. 

[Airalee]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

I'm old and on Social Security and Medicare. I've never used the Medicare but pay for it every month. 

I’m thinking that when the time comes, I might as well eschew Medicare.  
 

Cheaper to just spend my twilight years in Thailand and when cash pay healthcare becomes unaffordable (I have insurance but don’t use it) just self administer my own palliative care.

[bradiston]

MAGA - Member, Arse Gropers Anonymous.

[candide]

On 12/3/2024 at 11:28 PM, soalbundy said:

The 'have not's' maga voters won't like this but you have to make sacrifices to make America great again 

That's why it won't really happen. A lot of Republican counties are beneficiaries of federal welfare programs. That's particularly the case of rural counties, with decreasing revenues and job numbers, which are core MAGA strongholds. It is doubtful that GOP congressmen will shoot themselves into the foot! ☺️

 

And, as usual, Trump and MAGAs will whine about the deep state, etc..., to justify another broken promise. 

 

[Yellowtail]

7 minutes ago, candide said:

That's why it won't really happen. A lot of Republican counties are beneficiaries of federal welfare programs. That's particularly the case of rural counties, with decreasing revenues and job numbers, which are core MAGA strongholds. It is doubtful that GOP congressmen will shoot themselves into the foot! ☺️

 

And, as usual, Trump and MAGAs will whine about the deep state, etc..., to justify another broken promise. 

 

He's not even in office yet and the left is already lying about broken promises.