3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ll thank you not to attribute views to me that I myself have never expressed.

 

 

 

Don't worry Chomps, I won't.

 

20 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

According to Chomper, being upset about the murderous slaying of 3 young children makes you a racist and Islamaphobe.

 

According to Starmer, wanting an inquiry into the rape of hundreds of young girls makes you far right.

 

The usual boring slurs from gaslighters trying (but failing) to hide the truth. 

 

 

The Chomper song:

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, proton said:

 

The Chomper song:

 

 

 

 

If you asked him to point at the centre of a clock, he'd put his finger to the left of the number 9.

 

Anything to the right of that is Fascistic, and no doubt Wacist. 

 

 

23 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Don't worry Chomps, I won't.

 

Struggling with the very easy to use quote function Jonny, or is it just you don’t like presenting my comments in the context they were made, complete with link to a credible news report?

 

11 minutes ago, proton said:

 

The Chomper song:

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

If you asked him to point at the centre of a clock, he'd put his finger to the left of the number 9.

 

Anything to the right of that is Fascistic, and no doubt Wacist. 

 

 

Between the two of you might figure I’m not the topic of the thread.

 

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Struggling with the very easy to use quote function Jonny, or is it just you don’t like presenting my comments in the context they were made, complete with link to a credible news report?

 

 

Why would I quote a plain text link containing an opinion piece from a little American broadcaster?

 

Proves absolutely nothing, their misguided opinion is worth no more than yours. 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

Between the two of you might figure I’m not the topic of the thread.

 

 

We were discussing absurd views and your name came up. 

33 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Prosecution of the criminals you choose to defend hasn’t been swift in every case, this criminal has only just been sentenced:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/06/key-architect-of-riots-after-southport-attack-jailed-for-seven-and-a-half-years

 

So the child rapist in this case served just over 2 years of a 6 year sentence.  Someone who posted words on social media was given a 7.5 year sentence.   I suppose you are happy with this kind of sentencing outcome?   

1 hour ago, WorriedNoodle said:

Utter nonsense and you know it. Starmer’s association with the grooming cases as CPP occurred over a decade ago, and the cases were investigated and prosecuted under his watch.

 

You want to try that one again ?
 

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The CPS was criticised for a decision not to proceed with a prosecution in Rochdale on the basis that it viewed the main victim as "unreliable" following an investigation between August 2008 and August 2009. 

That decision was overturned later by Nazir Afzal in 2011 after being appointed by Sir Keir as the CPS chief prosecutor for north-west England.

 

It took Nazir Afzal in 2011 to ( hopefully ) grab Starmer by the throat and get him to  act.

 

You might also want to read this

 

https://news.sky.com/story/grooming-gangs-scandal-timeline-what-happened-what-inquiries-there-were-and-how-starmer-was-involved-after-elon-musks-accusations-13285021

 

Starmer is a weak, spineless, useless article. His father made the biggest tool in the world.

 

The Country is just about to find out how much of a tool he is.

8 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

So the child rapist in this case served just over 2 years of a 6 year sentence.  Someone who posted words on social media was given a 7.5 year sentence.   I suppose you are happy with this kind of sentencing outcome?   

I’ve already commented on the treatment of this child rapists case, I find it baffling and I need of an explanation.

 

I’ve a feeling you are misrepresenting the other case you refer to.

 

 

 

39 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve already commented on the treatment of this child rapists case, I find it baffling and I need of an explanation.

 

I’ve a feeling you are misrepresenting the other case you refer to.

 

How so?  He put some words on social media.  He did not physically harm people or property.  What else did he do and why would they keep it secret if he did something else that warranted a sentence longer than a child rapist?  

I could be wrong, but I believe the Tories were in power for 14 years and did nothing to stop grooming (or very little). Now they are saying that Starmer, Prime Minister since 5 July 2024, is to blame for everything.

Something smells fishy.

A more accurate title for this thread would be:

 

Convicted Paedophile Rochdale Rape Gang Leader Still in the Town & not Deported

 

It's not enough for the government to obfuscate the ethnicity of these depraved individuals, but also to describe them as 'grooming' gangs rather than the more accurate 'gangs of paedophile rapists'.

 

2 minutes ago, Purdey said:

I could be wrong, but I believe the Tories were in power for 14 years and did nothing to stop grooming (or very little). Now they are saying that Starmer, Prime Minister since 5 July 2024, is to blame for everything.

Something smells fishy.

 

Labour councils were responsible for the cover up.

Starmer was in charge of the CPS who didn't prosecute child rapists.

Labour/Starmer do not want an inquiry that will identify who covered it up.  

 

Something does indeed smell fishy.  

Just now, Purdey said:

I could be wrong, but I believe the Tories were in power for 14 years and did nothing to stop grooming (or very little).

 

   Yes, you are wrong about that . 

Didnt you notice the numerous criminal trials where the grooming gang were jailed ?

   Tommy Robinson causing  fuss outside the Courts ?

It was headline news for years in the UK , didn't you notice it ?

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Well, the 2 tier justice system for a start. 

 

Only exists in your head. 

 

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Do you oppose Labours decision to vote against an inquiry?

It was a meaningless political pointscoring game by the Tories and rightfully rejected. Quite appalling political grandstanding and the hypocrisy of the Tories in calling for it is sickening. Kier has said he will carry out all the recommendations proposed by the first enquiry - you know the one that was done under the Tories and the one that they decided to ignore completely. He also said any further enquiries should be done at a local level in Oldham, you know, exactly as the Tories said should happen (but then didn't). See if you can read this:

https://news.sky.com/story/mps-vote-against-new-national-inquiry-into-grooming-gangs-13285629

 

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If not, you clearly want the scandal over the rape gangs brushed under the carpet as well.

Please don't project such rubbish. I know it's a favourite tactic of yours to make up what others are thinking, but please don't tell me I want the results of an enquiry swept under the carpet when I have never said or implied such a thing, especially when it was your beloved Tories who actually did just that whilst Labour are saying they will carry out all its recommendation in full.

Do you ever actually engage in constructive debate?

1)  2 years 6 months for being part of a  Pakistani  rape gang, trafficking a 15 year old girl and sex with a 15 year old girl. and he still walks our streets.

 

2) Old lady 53 years old, 15 months in jail for some hurty words on face book.

 

The uk, is firmly in the toilet.

 

 

6 hours ago, proton said:

They follow a man who had a 6 year old 'wife' when he was 50 who he raped when she was 9 and who made up a book which condones raping your enemies and marriage to pre pubescent girls. He thinks he has done nothing wrong just as he thinks the prophet did nothing wrong. What did the muslim community have to say about this sick behaviour?

It is indeed incomprehensible that all mankind has not yet stood up against this scum

 

All the politics and race issues to one side....the one thing I find staggering is the derisory sentences issued and worst..... the length of the sentences actually served.......

 

Why aren't these men (any race, religion, shape or colour) getting 10 plus years minimum?

Britain is sinking into a pit from which there will be no recovery. Desperately sad and depressing.

10 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

All the politics and race issues to one side....the one thing I find staggering is the derisory sentences issued and worst..... the length of the sentences actually served.......

 

Why aren't these men (any race, religion, shape or colour) getting 10 plus years minimum?

 

Because it is a Political issues. Politicos of red and blue hues were **** scared of upsetting a minority.

 

If it wasn't for Journalists and so called far right lunatics, it would never have been seen the light of day.

 

Hanging is too good for them, including those that denied, tried to cover up and turned a blind eye.

8 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

All the politics and race issues to one side....the one thing I find staggering is the derisory sentences issued and worst..... the length of the sentences actually served.......

 

Why aren't these men (any race, religion, shape or colour) getting 10 plus years minimum?

Yes, me too. Unbelievable. 

39 minutes ago, Peterphuket said:

It is indeed incomprehensible that all mankind has not yet stood up against this scum

 

 

Well, the Labour party have been apologising for them, and deflecting criticism from them for the last 30 years, simply to get their block vote; the damage this has done is almost irreparable, because Labour have now indoctrinated a whole generation of young supporters into believing that Muslims are beyond criticism, no matter how vile and depraved their actions.

 

Look what happened to the Labour MP for Rotherham,Sara Champion, who was forced to resign by Jeremy Corbyn when she wrote in a newspaper that  Britain had “a problem with British Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls”.

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, James105 said:

 

Labour councils were responsible for the cover up.

Starmer was in charge of the CPS who didn't prosecute child rapists.

Labour/Starmer do not want an inquiry that will identify who covered it up.  

 

Something does indeed smell fishy.  

So, the national Tory government was unable to do anything but the national Labour government can?

Got it.

 

This shows everything that is wrong with the apologist Labour party; this is from an article published in the Times this morning:

 

 

 

 

The definition of Islamophobia adopted by the Labour Party put “grooming gangs” in inverted commas and suggested that using the term in relation to Muslims was racist.

 

The wording was contained in a report by an all-party parliamentary group (APPG) of MPs co-chaired by Wes Streeting, now the health secretary

 

Since March 2019, the party has adopted the “definition and examples” set out in the 2018 report, which includes a warning that “Asian grooming gangs” were a modern iteration of “age-old stereotypes and tropes about Islam”

 

The document listed these as “sexual profligacy and paedophilia, or Islam and violence”, concluding that they “heighten vulnerability of Muslims to hate crimes”

 

On Wednesday Kemi Badenoch, the Tory leader, said that, according to the APPG on British Muslims report, “talking about sex groomers was an example of Islamophobia”. She added: “This is exactly why people are scared to tell the truth.”

 

 

 

Starmer  piling in to " Get it sorted "

 

 

 

Spineless wretch of a human being

 

56 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Yes, me too. Unbelievable. 

More unbelievable to me is when police and officials hide whats happening so they never get caught and brought to justice

58 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

All the politics and race issues to one side....the one thing I find staggering is the derisory sentences issued and worst..... the length of the sentences actually served.......

 

That's a bit like saying... All the fire issues aside, why is LA currently burning.

 

You've answered your own question. The reason they get such light sentences is because of politics and race issues (and also religion). 

 

The only thing that is staggering is that people can see Muslim men spared jail for rape (the reason given being that he went to Islamic school so he had been taught women were worthless) while right wing working class people get multiple year jail sentences for stupid social media posts and then claim with a straight face that 2 Tier Justice is simply a figment of the imagination of the "Far Right". 

 

https://www.meforum.org/islamist-watch/muslim-abuser-who-didnt-know-that-sex-with-a-girl

 

 

4 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

Spineless wretch of a human being

 

Exactly. Used the whip to ensure his MP's voted against it but abstained from the vote himself.

 

Could he get any lower?

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Could he get any lower?

 

Oh yes, he's just warming up.