30 minutes ago, Paul52 said:

In progressive true democracies where they have a credible legal system and the rule of law, that would be a very reasonable thing to believe, but in the USA, it most definitely ain’t.

And that's the problem, thanks to the "Democrats" and their weaponization of the justice system and the courts.

 

The proverbial "Man From Mars" would take one good look at what they did and conclude that the USA is now  the epitome of a Banana Republic.  The corruption was off the charts and, to make matters worse,  those people actually thought they were invincible.  They believed their own nonsense. 

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

 

Is the US political system a bad joke?

 

It most certainly is when the SCOTUS confers immunity from prosecution on their own president.

Fauch always said to wear the mask to prevent the spread and to take the vack seen (which is safe)  to prevent getting Corvid. I think he also said he knew nothing about gain of function research in Wuhan. Or if he knew about the labb in Wuhan he didn't know about gain of function. Water under the bridge.

 

Not sure why so many people are angry at him.

 

 

1 hour ago, Chosenfew said:

Biden leaves office with 36% approval, lowest in modern times.

 

I won't sleep tonight.

From Gilbert & Sullivan's The Mikado (1885)

My object all sublime
I shall achieve in time —
To let the punishment fit the crime —
The punishment fit the crime.

What's going on here is more like:

We want punishment; let's find a crime that fits.

1 hour ago, Chosenfew said:

Biden leaves office with 36% approval, lowest in modern times.

And he was supposedly the most popular president in history.... if we're to believe the 2020 result!!

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

And he was supposedly the most popular president in history.... if we're to believe the 2020 result!!

 

You do know that was five years ago?

4 hours ago, connda said:

So says the man who has accepted his preemptive pardon:

Where is your evidence that Chuck Schumer has accepted his preemptive pardon -- or did you just make that up?
 

 

19 hours ago, novacova said:

These pardons are an admission of guilt and a direct indictment that the entire Biden administration is a corrupt criminal enterprise.

Very funny … if sadly ignorant. They are a direct result of threats already made to go after those on the “enemies list”. Both Trump and the J6 “hostages” were indicted by my fellow citizen Grand Juries, then given the right of defense against the charges and found guilty by a separate citizen Trial Juries. I have little doubt that we will see a reaching for Sen. J. McCarthy (R-WIS) type tactics coming to the fore with the incoming administration. These preventative Pardons were, as Gen. Miley expressed, made so that the “enemies” of Trump, et al are not going to face years of emotional and financial cost due to Trump’s having been found to be a Felon by juries of his American citizen peers.

2 hours ago, Chosenfew said:

Biden leaves office with 36% approval, lowest in modern times.

 

And Trump's left his last term at 34%. Let's hope he does better this time

1 hour ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

Fauch always said to wear the mask to prevent the spread and to take the vack seen (which is safe)  to prevent getting Corvid. I think he also said he knew nothing about gain of function research in Wuhan. Or if he knew about the labb in Wuhan he didn't know about gain of function. Water under the bridge.

 

Not sure why so many people are angry at him.

 

 

Part of a giant depopulation project?  That just might be it.  Crimes against humanity?  People tend to get upset when other people try to kill them.  

if there is preemptive pardon than there must be a preemptive sentencing, isn't? 

Biden's advisers are went complete banana developing/inventing such nonsensical quazi juristic terms. 

 

Now Trump has a very right to issue those on Biden's minions - "guilty whatsoever however" 

An interesting discussion on the legality of the pardons between Tylor Nixon and Samuel Terpening on X:

 

 

The TL;DR:

 

Samuel points out the historical precedents for preemptive pardons, and Tyler responds as to why this is different and unique. It is instructive to remember the pardon power of the presidency extends from his role as Commander-In-Chief, not as the chief executive of the country:

 

Ford preemptively pardoned Nixon -  Nixon already had presidential immunity, so the pardon was superfluous for public consumption, and the courts never took up the argument as to whether it was legitimate.

 

Lincoln preemptively pardoned soldiers in the Civil war, and Carter preemptively pardoned Vietnam draft evaders - these were both done during a wartime setting, and were intended to heal wounds after the war was complete. This is exactly the context for which the pardon power was written in the Constitution

 

Bush preemptively pardoned Caspar Weinberger over Iran-Contra - Weinberger was specifically indicted before the pardon, and the preemptive pardon, issued before the trial could begin, was narrowly tailored. Weinberger was not given blanket retroactive immunity for all crimes committed over a decade. Sadly, SCOTUS never took up the challenge to determine whether this pardon was, in fact, legitimate.

 

In short, Tyler argues this is a very different situation, and the Constitution does not give the President to authority to elevate someone completely above the law. It's useful to read the exact clause which confers the power of pardon to the president to get context:

 

Quote

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

 

Notice that the writers assumed this power would be used in the context of crimes committed during war, not ordinary, peace time criminal activity, which is why it is included as the right of the Command-In-Chief, not the President. Historical precedent has allowed this power to be used for non wartime crimes as well, however the US Supreme Court is not bound by precedent. They can reverse poor precedent at any time, and this particular case may be so brazen that they just might do that.

What's even worse is Biden was forced by his Christian moral values to be polite to a violent, loudmouth terrorist Timeshare Salesman. 😆

3 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

What's even worse is Biden was forced by his Christian moral values to be polite to a violent, loudmouth terrorist Timeshare Salesman. 😆

Biden believes in the fairy in the sky?

22 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Biden believes in the fairy in the sky?

It's kinda hard for MAGA to believe others have moral values. 😄

 

Empty nihilists who don't know how to be Real Americans who apparently have Daddy issues and crave authoritarians to boss them around like little children. ✅

10 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

It's kinda hard for MAGA to believe others have moral values. 😄

 

Empty nihilists who don't know how to be Real Americans who apparently have Daddy issues and crave authoritarians to boss them around like little children. ✅

Is that a yes?

"A pardon is an act of grace, proceeding from the power entrusted with the execution of the laws, which exempts the individual on whom it is bestowed from the punishment the law inflicts for a crime he has committed."

pp 89-90 Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79 (1915)
https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep236/usrep236079/usrep236079.pdf

On 1/20/2025 at 6:43 AM, novacova said:

These pardons are an admission of guilt and a direct indictment that the entire Biden administration is a corrupt criminal enterprise.

So if these Parsons are a so called admission of guilt, then what would you call the pardons of all the 1/6 defendants.  Make sure you answer that question very carefully MAGA wanna be

14 minutes ago, RetiredNavy71 said:

So if these Parsons are a so called admission of guilt, then what would you call the pardons of all the 1/6 defendants.  Make sure you answer that question very carefully MAGA wanna be

Good grief, you’ve got to be kidding. Trump pardons defendants, those who were already charged. Biden pardons preemptively knowing of the crimes that they committed and knowing that the evidence will surface. If they weren’t guilty then there would be no preemptive pardons. Though we can’t expect a simple minded shallow thinker to figure out such an overt obvious move unless it’s directed by the media.

7 hours ago, novacova said:

If they weren’t guilty then there would be no preemptive pardons.

That isn't true: Someone can be indicted by a federal grand jury and brought to trial and then found not guilty but be subjected to considerable legal expense and time commitments even when eventually found to be not guilty.

On 1/20/2025 at 7:39 PM, riclag said:

Looks like Bidens handlers are anxious!

Guilt complex much?
 

Why the pardon they haven't been officially accused of any wrongdoing!

Because they are criminals and the new doj is going to discover a treasure trove of criminal activity that the biden administration has colluded 

2 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

That isn't true: Someone can be indicted by a federal grand jury and brought to trial and then found not guilty but be subjected to considerable legal expense and time commitments even when eventually found to be not guilty.

Are you lost or just blind? It’s blatantly clear and obvious what these political pardons are all about-so you can stop your pretending. Biden pardon these criminals because they are guilty of treasonous crimes that is soon to be exposed. Don’t you think it’s about time you lefty’s accepting that you have been lied to by the media and your corrupt politicians?

13 minutes ago, 0james0 said:

Biden pardon these criminals because they are guilty of treasonous crimes that is soon to be exposed.

Thank you for the pre-exposure heads up.

11 hours ago, novacova said:

Good grief, you’ve got to be kidding. Trump pardons defendants, those who were already charged. Biden pardons preemptively knowing of the crimes that they committed and knowing that the evidence will surface. If they weren’t guilty then there would be no preemptive pardons. Though we can’t expect a simple minded shallow thinker to figure out such an overt obvious move unless it’s directed by the media.

Typical MAGA response is to lie and evade as though it were the truth.  Fortunately some of us were born with common sense and minds of our own to subjectively assess and evaluate half-truths that originate from your MAGA daddy.  Time to lose the cult of personality and grow up sport!

Fauch always at the top of his game folks.

 

 

36 minutes ago, RetiredNavy71 said:

Typical MAGA response is to lie and evade as though it were the truth.  Fortunately some of us were born with common sense and minds of our own to subjectively assess and evaluate half-truths that originate from your MAGA daddy.  Time to lose the cult of personality and grow up sport!

Typical media indoctrinated leftist. You really didn’t say anything here except for your abject disappointment of Trump’s demolition of the left, that’s the laugh you’ll never be able to enjoy, and your abject loathing contemptuous disposition is quite entertaining 5!

“FOR ANY OFFENSES against the United States which they may have committed or taken part in arising from or in any manner related to the activities or subject matter of the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol.”

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons-granted-president-joseph-biden-2021-present

Why would the criminal left investigators need preemptive clemency if they had not participated in any crimes? 

23 minutes ago, novacova said:

“FOR ANY OFFENSES against the United States which they may have committed or taken part in arising from or in any manner related to the activities or subject matter of the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol.”

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons-granted-president-joseph-biden-2021-present

Why would the criminal left investigators need preemptive clemency if they had not participated in any crimes? 

Question has been answered many times already.

1 hour ago, novacova said:

Typical media indoctrinated leftist. You really didn’t say anything here except for your abject disappointment of Trump’s demolition of the left, that’s the laugh you’ll never be able to enjoy, and your abject loathing contemptuous disposition is quite entertaining 5!

I laud the fact that you don't know anything about me but I will give you a tidbit.  I unlike yourself am willing to work with Trump and his ilk to help make America a better place to work and live and to prosper.  I'm not on the left or the right for that matter but I'm somewhere in between. You see I'm old school and my mindset is so different from yours.  So when you can grow up and give me something constructive feel free to write back.