What's an "impressive" middle class income and savings in Thailand in 2025?

[NorthernRyland]

2 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

For a single, I assume? So Family with two kids 300k. I'd go along with that.

It costs 300k a year to raise a family in Bangkok really? That's as much as middle class Americans in a major city would be spending. 120,000 USD per year is high income for any country in any city. 

[black tabby12345]

12 hours ago, Briggsy said:

Hi Bob

 

It is not as straightforward as that. A public sector position can be worth much more than just a salary figure.

 

Supplementary Income(often bigger than "salary") comes in a Brown Envelop?

[SingAPorn]

What is the daily wage of a more or less qualified worker say for cement jobs ?

 

When one sees how the cheats in the contractor business charge, invent lies, inflate the prices of the materials (mainly in HUA HIN), it may make sense to have a wider scope on the real costs. So thanks for any feedback.

 

 

[noobexpat]

Just now, blaze master said:

 

Ok you're the best and know everything. You keep doing you ok. 

 

I live indoors I'm completely unaffected. You can't make this shhhhhh up. 

 

 

 

You just keep pressing that confused emoji button. Don't let me down...

[blaze master]

Just now, noobexpat said:

 

You just keep pressing that confused emoji button. Don't let me down...

 

What ? 

 

I don't do emojis. Ever. Never have. 

[noobexpat]

2 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

What ? 

 

I don't do emojis. Ever. Never have. 

 

I don’t mix well with online nobody's. 

If i have to pick a set of life expectancy stats, i'm certainly closer to UK ones than native thai folks or the world population.

 

If you can't recognise that then hope is lost ....for you

[NorthernRyland]

41 minutes ago, Celsius said:

10,000 baht a month.

 

it you're making 15,000 you are rolling

 

These are 1,500/month. One room and a fan. You can't lose!

 

[Ben Zioner]

4 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

These are 1,500/month. One room and a fan. You can't lose!

 

Look like just one step above the Bangkok Hilton.

[blaze master]

11 minutes ago, noobexpat said:

 

I don’t mix well with online nobody's. 

If i have to pick a set of life expectancy stats, i'm certainly closer to UK ones than native thai folks or the world population.

 

If you can't recognise that then hope is lost ....for you

 

Pleeeease put me out of my misery.

[NorthernRyland]

3 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Look like just one step above the Bangkok Hilton.

It comes with authentic illegal Burmese workers as neighbors also. You can sit outside in the evening and barbecue birds on the patio. It's a really family friendly environment.

[cdemundo]

31 minutes ago, noobexpat said:

 

Ok ...so if we go worst case ie. Its decreased, what factors in thailand have caused my decrease?

 

Arguably, life saving care time could be slower here. I can't think of anything else thats different from my 50 years in UK compared with 2.5 in thailand. Therefore i will still refer to UK stats until i materially change something.

 

Agree or disagree?

You do you tiger.

[Keeps]

12 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Pleeeease put me out of my misery.

I do wonder whether the guy you are bickering with will have a lower life expectancy due to him being a complete and utter knob?

[jayboy]

9 hours ago, baansgr said:

4 paid for motorbikes

 

Says so much but the writer is probably unaware.

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

Impressive monthly income? For a wage slave in Thailand, perhaps 300,000 baht per month and up.

 

 

[noobexpat]

1 hour ago, Keeps said:

I do wonder whether the guy you are bickering with will have a lower life expectancy due to him being a complete and utter knob?

 

Bum chums?

[blaze master]

3 hours ago, noobexpat said:

 

Bum chums?

 

Homophobic much. 

[ericdk]

The replies to my question has been pure AIDS.

[baansgr]

8 hours ago, jayboy said:

 

Says so much but the writer is probably unaware.

I am fully aware thanks...do you assume motorbikes are not middle class?.. I don't care...I have every I want and need...now that is priceless. 👍 

[KhunLA]

12 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

For a single, I assume? So Family with two kids 300k. I'd go along with that.

Are you assuming the kids will have a mortgage & car payment.  Cost little to feed another mouth or 2 at the house.  

[Ben Zioner]

15 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Are you assuming the kids will have a mortgage & car payment.  Cost little to feed another mouth or 2 at the house.  

Sounds like you've never had children.. Or if you had you were the total deadbeat dad.

 

But I know you only try to be provocative...

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Sounds like you've never had children.. Or if you had you were the total deadbeat dad.

 

But I know you only try to be provocative...

Put my daughter through Uni ... if that counts.   Which in TH, is quite inexpensive.   Raised 2 kids (GF's) in USA, for a few years, involving paying for a private school, since govt school sucked.

 

Uni was cheap in TH, and only real cost was housing & living expense, since Uni in BKK, and wife & myself at PKK.

 

Until Uni, you simply feed & clothe the wee ones, and very inexpensive.  Certainly not 100k a month, and more like 10k, if that.

[BritManToo]

16 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Sounds like you've never had children.. Or if you had you were the total deadbeat dad.

 

But I know you only try to be provocative...

Had 4 in the UK and 2 in Thailand,

None of them cost me much on top of the existing household expenses.

The wife was always far more expensive (10x - 100x) than the kids.

 

Just agreed to pay another teens school fees, 10kbht-15kbht/year + (2nd hand uniforms from my son).

[Ben Zioner]

23 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Put my daughter through Uni ... if that counts.   Which in TH, is quite inexpensive.   Raised 2 kids (GF's) in USA, for a few years, involving paying for a private school, since govt school sucked.

 

Uni was cheap in TH, and only real cost was housing & living expense, since Uni in BKK, and wife & myself at PKK.

 

Until Uni, you simply feed & clothe the wee ones, and very inexpensive.  Certainly not 100k a month, and more like 10k, if that.

With two kids

 

- I need two rooms when I have a holiday; thats about 6 weeks a year.

- At the restaurant they don't drink wine, but they eat as much sushis, steak, pizza, etc as mum and dad.

- I need to furnish two rooms with Ikea <deleted> and a desktop.

- Iphone and Ipad for both.

- Swimming class.

- Music teacher.

- A lot of Uniclo shopping as they are girls.

- They need to get to school, so two cars are needed.

- School fees.

- Health insurance

- etc..

 

And yes I haven't gone native...

 

[noobexpat]

4 hours ago, nomad22 said:

That's life expectancy at birth.  If you make it to 60, your life expectancy from that point is much higher.

 

He isn’t too smart. Wasting your time.

[BritManToo]

12 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

- They need to get to school, so two cars are needed.

School bus 1,500bht/month collect and drop off at my door.

Health insurance, free as Thai citizens.

[KhunLA]

4 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

With two kids

 

- I need two rooms when I have a holiday; thats about 6 weeks a year.

- At the restaurant they don't drink wine, but they eat as much sushis, steak, pizza, etc as mum and dad.

- I need to furnish two rooms with Ikea <deleted> and a desktop.

- Iphone and Ipad for both.

- Swimming class.

- Music teacher.

- A lot of Uniclo shopping as they are girls.

- They need to get to school, so two cars are needed.

- School fees.

- Health insurance

- etc..

 

And yes I haven't gone native...

 

฿300k  = $8.900 x 12 = $105K = ฿3.58M a year, to live in TH 

 

Fits the topic title, 'impressive', but totally unnecessary to live here.

 

IMHO

[BritManToo]

13 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

These are 1,500/month. One room and a fan. You can't lose!

 

I cycle down the hill past there every day on my way back from Wat Doi Tairn.

[KhunLA]

6 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

฿300k  = $8.900 x 12 = $105K = ฿3.58M a year, to live in TH 

Fits the topic title, 'impressive', but totally unnecessary to live here. 

I  have a hard time spending ฿1M a year on wife & myself.   Actually impossible for us not to save, ฿500+ a year, with no effort.   

 

I really wouldn't know what to do with 3X that income ... IMHO

[Ben Zioner]

7 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

฿300k  = $8.900 x 12 = $105K = ฿3.58M a year, to live in TH 

 

Fits the topic title, 'impressive', but totally unnecessary to live here.

 

IMHO

Well, whatever you say.. but there are about 6000 people who haven't gone native here...

[KhunLA]

10 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Well, whatever you say.. but there are about 6000 people who haven't gone native here...

We're talking salary & living expense.  If you have the visa already, that doesn't figure into monthly income & expenses, or monthly salary needed to be impressive.

 

Definitely not needed to live in TH, unless paying a large mortgage, and new cars every year or 2, financed.

 

Is this just another thread for you to tell people how fortunate you are ?  Not that others are not, but just don't repeat it over & over.

 

We're far from going native.  Just don't need to disclose our finances, besides what is asked.

 

Stating a kid need 100k a month to live on is silly, and simply self serving your ego.   IMHO

 

Have a pleasant day