Can Europe’s downfall be attributed to “white guilt”?

[hotsun]

Lets say hitler decided only to kick all the jews out of germany, instead of killing them all, would Europe still have white guilt and feel the need to put everyone else above themselves?

 

Europes politicians arent following the best interests of the European people, and for some reason are trying to replace their own population with those from africa and the middle east. If the holocaust never happened, would europe currently be destroying itself through white guilt? Any opinions that would benefit white people is now deemed as right wing, and theres an extreme aversion in Europe for anything having to do with nazis. Europe tolerates the killing of their own people through muslim extremism but theres no tolerance for anything having to do with white nationalism.

 

Do you think whats happening in Europe can be reversed? I see many Europeans living in Thailand to have lost hope in their home countries

[Harrisfan]

Germans are now strange. UK is now strange. France has always been strange. 

 

Europe needs a massive wake up call. Vance gave then one last week. They are too dumb to listen.

[hotsun]

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Germans are now strange. UK is now strange. France has always been strange. 

 

Europe needs a massive wake up call. Vance gave then one last week. They are too dumb to listen.

Germany is understandably strange, and the least likely of any country to ever go back to being right wing unless things got out of hand. They are inviting muslims to their country who have no tolerance for rights for women and rights for gays. Whites think Muslims are friends, muslims kill those unsuspecting people,

 

it seems due to the holocaust, im not sure if Europe can ever overcome white guilt, and will fall victim to something far worse than whats going on in Gaza

[OneMoreFarang]

From here:

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/would-central-europe-function-jeFSgFYdQISjBORJPrGGcg#0

 

"Without immigrants, Central Europe would likely face more severe labor shortages and demographic challenges, potentially exacerbating economic stagnation and pension system sustainability issues."

 

 

It's some time ago that I lived in Europe. But with all the old white native Europeans, who will work and who will pay for the pensions?

I am pretty sure politicians and economists see this problem, and this is why they allow/support immigration.

Obviously, people prefer some immigrants and not so much some others.

 

How would Europe cope without immigrants?

How would old people react if the pensions would be lowered and if there wouldn't be anybody who works as their caretaker?

 

That doesn't mean I want as much immigration as possible to Europe. But realistically they need immigrants.

 

 

 

[MalcolmB]

14 minutes ago, hotsun said:

They are inviting muslims to their country who have no tolerance for rights for women and rights for gays.

We can’t force Muslims to be woke.

They are entitled to their own opinion. Probably a good thing to have them to off balance all the wokeness.

wokeness is bringing down the western world, not Muslims. 
The west has given women equality over the last 50-70 years and they haven’t achieved much. And they are very ungrateful for all we have done for them.

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

17 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Whites think Muslims are friends, muslims kill those unsuspecting people,

It's again that stupid black and white view.

Are there any good Muslims out there?

Are there any bad white Christians out there?

The word is not black and white. And it doesn't help to pretend it is.

Simplistic thinking is a big problem, and it doesn't help at all.

[Harrisfan]

19 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Germany is understandably strange, and the least likely of any country to ever go back to being right wing unless things got out of hand. They are inviting muslims to their country who have no tolerance for rights for women and rights for gays. Whites think Muslims are friends, muslims kill those unsuspecting people,

 

it seems due to the holocaust, im not sure if Europe can ever overcome white guilt, and will fall victim to something far worse than whats going on in Gaza

Hitler was a socialist. Germans are only hurting themselves. Vance is right wing. How is being right wing dangerous? Leftist media brainwashing.

[hotsun]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

From here:

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/would-central-europe-function-jeFSgFYdQISjBORJPrGGcg#0

 

"Without immigrants, Central Europe would likely face more severe labor shortages and demographic challenges, potentially exacerbating economic stagnation and pension system sustainability issues."

 

 

It's some time ago that I lived in Europe. But with all the old white native Europeans, who will work and who will pay for the pensions?

I am pretty sure politicians and economists see this problem, and this is why they allow/support immigration.

Obviously, people prefer some immigrants and not so much some others.

 

How would Europe cope without immigrants?

How would old people react if the pensions would be lowered and if there wouldn't be anybody who works as their caretaker?

 

That doesn't mean I want as much immigration as possible to Europe. But realistically they need immigrants.

 

 

 

The immigrants need to be vetted, like what the US is doing under trump. In the UK they are throwing people in jail for their posts on twitter other than hamas supporters, UK is keeping those people

[hotsun]

3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

We can’t force Muslims to be woke.

They are entitled to their own opinion. Probably a good thing to have them to off balance all the wokeness.

wokeness is bringing down the western world, not Muslims. 
The west has given women equality over the last 50-70 years and they haven’t achieved much. And they are very ungrateful for all we have done for them.

 

 

Those young arab men they are letting in dont like western values, their bible tells them to kill those people. Its not going to end well

[Yagoda]

Germany's can.

 

Germans have not bee able to throw off the guilt of the National Socialists because the Socialists themselves have worked to ensure that the useful idiots think Socialism is good and National Socialists are bad.

 

They both are bad.

[Harrisfan]

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Germany's can.

 

Germans have not bee able to throw off the guilt of the National Socialists because the Socialists themselves have worked to ensure that the useful idiots think Socialism is good and National Socialists are bad.

 

They both are bad.

They lie and claim Hitler was right wing. Hitler was one of them.

[MalcolmB]

2 minutes ago, hotsun said:

The arabs europe is importing from the middle east, are not mentally ill nor do they consider themselves extreme for wanting to kill white people for being christian and israelis for being jews

Very sweeping generalization.

The overwhelming majority of Arabs are not wanting to kill white people.

 

As a Brit I feel regret for the way we have raped and pillaged around the world, it was entitled and cruel.

 

I don’t feel any regret for what Hitler did to the Jews.

That was the Germans, not us.

[thaibeachlovers]

Yes.

[hotsun]

8 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Germany's can.

 

Germans have not bee able to throw off the guilt of the National Socialists because the Socialists themselves have worked to ensure that the useful idiots think Socialism is good and National Socialists are bad.

 

They both are bad.

Frm the Euros on this forum it seems to me like Europe is already gone, if the old Euros think this way the young cant be any better

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, hotsun said:

Frm the Euros on this forum it seems to me like Europe is already gone, if the old Euros think this way the young cant be any better

Yes in decline. Started 2000 years ago though. Romans were real men. Modern day euros all weak. Trump is right to tell them to grow a set.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 minutes ago, hotsun said:

does the quran not state that its okay to kill non muslims? Maybe you should do more research on it

Perhaps you can quote the verse from it that says it's OK to kill non Muslims. The Hadiths are not an acceptable source, only the Koran.

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Yes in decline. Started 2000 years ago though. Romans were real men. Modern day euros all weak. Trump is right to tell them to grow a set.

Good times breeds soft men.

[hotsun]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps you can quote the verse from it that says it's OK to kill non Muslims. The Hadiths are not an acceptable source, only the Koran.

Ive seen from enough sources that the problem is systemic, thus why everyone ironically refers to it as the religion of peace. They cannot coexist with Europe

[Harrisfan]

14 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Very sweeping generalization.

The overwhelming majority of Arabs are not wanting to kill white people.

 

As a Brit I feel regret for the way we have raped and pillaged around the world, it was entitled and cruel.

 

I don’t feel any regret for what Hitler did to the Jews.

That was the Germans, not us.

The Brits that did that werent you either.

[Rimmer]

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[MalcolmB]

3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

The Brits that did that werent you either.

My family wealth mostly comes from exploiting the colonies financially.

So while I don’t personally do it, I am a beneficiary and do have some sympathy for the victims. 
I am living it up in Thailand as a direct result of it. 

[Stocky]

Which "European Downfall" are we talking about, over the centuries there have been a few

Roman

Byzantine

Frankish

Caliphate of Cordoba (Moorish Spain)

Portuguese

Spanish

Ottoman

Austro-Hungarian

British

Soviet

or Dictators

Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin

 

All have come and gone, but Europe has a habit of picking itself up and carrying on.

[Yagoda]

16 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Very sweeping generalization.

The overwhelming majority of Arabs are not wanting to kill white people.

 

As a Brit I feel regret for the way we have raped and pillaged around the world, it was entitled and cruel.

 

I don’t feel any regret for what Hitler did to the Jews.

That was the Germans, not us.

Your typical jew hate is constantly on display here, glad you acknowledge the moral vacuity of the Socialists, to whom millions of bodies lying in ditches, (especially women and children who fight back less) were just the march of history.

 

 

[Harrisfan]

3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

My family wealth mostly comes from exploiting the colonies financially.

So while I don’t personally do it, I am a beneficiary and do have some sympathy for the victims. 
I am living it up in Thailand as a direct result of it. 

Thailand is a cheap 2nd world nation. Rich people go to Spain.

[BritManToo]

37 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It's again that stupid black and white view.

Are there any good Muslims out there?

Are there any bad white Christians out there?

The word is not black and white. And it doesn't help to pretend it is.

Simplistic thinking is a big problem, and it doesn't help at all.

Nobody who believes fairies live at the end of their garden can be classed as 'good', some are harmless, some are dangerous, all are mentally unstable.

 

Same goes for all that believe in any form of the supernatural.

All should be banned from public office, leaving their home countries, or entering another country.

 

Let the country of their birth deal with their madness!

[MalcolmB]

11 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Ive seen from enough sources that the problem is systemic, thus why everyone ironically refers to it as the religion of peace. They cannot coexist with Europe

If you look at objectively it us Christian nations that are always in the wars.

WW1 and 2, the Korean War, the Vietnam War and the bombing of Laos and Cambodia, we invaded and bombed Iraq over weapons of mass destruction that didn’t exist and started a long war in Ahghanistan hunting a Saudi who was hiding in Pakistan.

No we seem to be stirring up China. 
 

The world would be better off without us.

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

If you look at objectively it us Christian nations that are always in the wars.

WW1 and 2, the Korean War, the Vietnam War and the bombing of Laos and Cambodia, we invaded and bombed Iraq over weapons of mass destruction that didn’t exist and started a long war in Ahghanistan hunting a Saudi who was hiding in Pakistan.

No we seem to be stirring up China. 
 

The world would be better off without us.

Who is we? I didnt bomb anyone.

[MalcolmB]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Your typical jew hate is constantly on display here, glad you acknowledge the moral vacuity of the Socialists, to whom millions of bodies lying in ditches, (especially women and children who fight back less) were just the march of history.

 

 

Jew hate? 
The Germans did it, not me. 
Us Brit’s saved the Jews and got them out of those camps.

It was the Brits that saved them, the Jews were not exactly putting up any significant armed resistance.

We also handed them Israel so they could go and live there in peace. It didn’t really work out, but that is another story

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

If you look at objectively it us Christian nations that are always in the wars.

WW1 and 2, the Korean War, the Vietnam War and the bombing of Laos and Cambodia, we invaded and bombed Iraq over weapons of mass destruction that didn’t exist and started a long war in Ahghanistan hunting a Saudi who was hiding in Pakistan.

No we seem to be stirring up China. 
 

The world would be better off without us.

I am not responsible for the people who rule my home country!

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Who is we? I didnt bomb anyone.

People like me who have served their country, and protected the women and cowards keeping them safe.

We, not you obviously.

You are just a keyboard warrior.

Big difference