British Tourist Knocked Out by Pattaya Club Bouncer

[cheerz]

Brave bouncer hits a old brit. Hope your day comes when you receive same treatment. Bouncers need to take mediation training where they learn to use their mouths rather than their fists

[kwak250]

1 hour ago, Woke to Sounds said:

Another British tough guy. I've taken loads of these yobs to the pavement with my own bare hands.

 

 

Another tough guy!

 

 

[SMIAI]

On 3/3/2025 at 3:31 AM, Gottfrid said:

Seems to me, the he got what he deserved. Why in the world would somebody push on a security guard?

 

Did you see him push anyone?

That doesn't really match with the bouncer's claim that the senior kicked him in the groin.

 

[SMIAI]

18 hours ago, Hawki1970 said:

The video shows the guard walking away and the old man followed him. 

 

No, it didn't. It showed the guard, after removing his uniform, inviting the old man to fight in the alleyway away from the club.

[SMIAI]

On 3/4/2025 at 3:47 AM, Kerryd said:

WATCH the WHOLE video.

It shows the Brit was involved in a confrontation on the street, seemingly with maybe a couple people (one being a guy in a white shirt) in a pushing/shoving kind of match.

But they don't let the clip run. They clip it and then show just the end part where he is aggressively following a security guy who turns around and belts the Brit.

The clip is blurry and they keep putting the stupid graphics in there but if you look close you see the Brit and a guy in a white shirt dancing (i.e. shoving each other) which was a few seconds after the Brit had apparently been trying to confront someone else (possibly the Security guy as it looked like someone in a dark shirt).

The clip ends and picks up again with the Brit following the Security guy and then getting laid out on the street.

So it wasn't just some Security guy popping a tourist for no reason. It appears the Brit was involved with a couple other people before that (and you can see the other people all looking towards him).

 

Not true. The pushing shoving match may have been an attempt to stop the issue between himself and the guard. The guard then removed his uniform and beckoned the old man to meet him around the corner.

[roo860]

2 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

Another British tough guy. I've taken loads of these yobs to the pavement with my own bare hands.

 

Thai security guard was only defending himself. The foreigner was aggressive and threatening.

 

Fine, deport and ban for 1 year.

Was that when you were a bouncer at Mothercare?

[lanng khao]

3 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

Another British tough guy. I've taken loads of these yobs to the pavement with my own bare hands.

 

Thai security guard was only defending himself. The foreigner was aggressive and threatening.

 

Fine, deport and ban for 1 year.

God didnt make Rambo,,i made him..

[kwak250]

3 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

Another British tough guy. I've taken loads of these yobs to the pavement with my own bare hands.

 

Ladies and gentlemen we have the legend Chuck Norris as a member on this very forum.

I heard he stamped his feet getting off a barstool in soi 6 and hundreds of brits hit the floor simultaneously. 

[SAFETY FIRST]

4 hours ago, cheerz said:

Brave bouncer hits a old brit. Hope your day comes when you receive same treatment. Bouncers need to take mediation training where they learn to use their mouths rather than their fists

Old Brit was acting the fool. Needed some sense punched into him, hopefully he'll learn a lesson, if not we will soon see him on the pavement again soon 😂

 

10/10 to the Thai guy for his performance. 👍

 

[Jonathan Swift]

On 3/3/2025 at 9:31 AM, Gottfrid said:

Seems to me, the he got what he deserved. Why in the world would somebody push on a security guard?

OK caveman, the world is not a Popeye cartoon,  if he has permanent brain damage or dies of a skull fracture does he "deserve" that? Death penalty just for being an ɑsshoIe? In other countries he would be charged with 2nd degree murder. Bouncers are supposed to be able to handle such things without resorting to extreme violence. That's what tasers and pepper spray are for. That's why you have more than one bouncer. That's what 191 on your phone and the police are for. 

[Harrisfan]

4 hours ago, SMIAI said:

 

No, it didn't. It showed the guard, after removing his uniform, inviting the old man to fight in the alleyway away from the club.

Why did the fool follow him? 

[Harrisfan]

9 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said:

OK caveman, the world is not a Popeye cartoon,  if he has permanent brain damage or dies of a skull fracture does he "deserve" that? Death penalty just for being an ɑsshoIe? In other countries he would be charged with 2nd degree murder. Bouncers are supposed to be able to handle such things without resorting to extreme violence. That's what tasers and pepper spray are for. That's why you have more than one bouncer. That's what 191 on your phone and the police are for. 

Bouncers get paid low money to deal with dregs of society. They should be trained more but who is going to do it? Bars in Thailand struggle to make a profit. Do we want another 300 baht fee on plane tickets to train staff to deal with scumbags?

[FritsSikkink]

5 hours ago, cheerz said:

Brave bouncer hits a old brit. Hope your day comes when you receive same treatment. Bouncers need to take mediation training where they learn to use their mouths rather than their fists

You try to have a decent conversation with an aggressive drunk or a coke head.

[Gottfrid]

4 hours ago, Jonathan Swift said:

OK caveman, the world is not a Popeye cartoon,  if he has permanent brain damage or dies of a skull fracture does he "deserve" that? Death penalty just for being an ɑsshoIe? In other countries he would be charged with 2nd degree murder. Bouncers are supposed to be able to handle such things without resorting to extreme violence. That's what tasers and pepper spray are for. That's why you have more than one bouncer. That's what 191 on your phone and the police are for. 

This kind of says you are wrong!

[roo860]

24 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

This kind of says you are wrong!

🥱

[roo860]

1 hour ago, Gottfrid said:

This kind of says you are wrong!

Kinda of says you spouting your usual anti British rhetoric.

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

This kind of says you are wrong!

 

No it doesn't...  it just says there are 60 idiots...  

 

A sea of simpletons mindlessly clicking ‘like’ does not bestow wisdom upon ignorance, nor does the applause of fools make a falsehood true.

[Harrisfan]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

No it doesn't...  it just says there are 60 idiots...  

 

A sea of simpletons mindlessly clicking ‘like’ does not bestow wisdom upon ignorance, nor does the applause of fools make a falsehood true.

49?

[Evil Penevil]

7 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Why did the fool follow him? 

 

Dementia often causes aggressive behavior, especially when coupled with alcohol.  From what I saw while living in Pattaya, some older ex-pats of all nationalities appear to suffer from age-related dementia.

[Harrisfan]

5 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Dementia often causes aggressive behavior, especially when coupled with alcohol.  From what I saw while living in Pattaya, some older ex-pats of all nationalities appear to suffer from age-related dementia.

Ok that makes sense. 

[Patong2021]

On 3/2/2025 at 11:54 PM, richard_smith237 said:

A couple of facets to this...

 

1) Idiots should never be getting so drunk, acting so foolishly and into the types of situation whereby security need to intervene.

 

2) Security should not be 'knocking anyone out'...

 

So, we have an idiot drunk thug and a actual thug pretending to be security. 

 

Of course, already some idiot posters are suggesting that this 'Brit got what he deserved'

These are idiotic comments - No.. he didn't deserve to get knocked out and potentially killed, he 'deserved to get restrained' for the police to take over, take him back to the Police station to sleep it off....   Thats a civilised response to uncivilised behavior. 

 

There are too many reports of these guards having a 'trigger finger response' and acting with savage and ferocious barbarity - they are often not 'security guards' in the true manner of the sense, they are unhinged characters looking for an opportunity to react. 

 

Meanwhile, there are too many idiots behaving like to$$ers, but the short-cut to violence is not the way to control these idiots - Bars covet the drinkers, the spenders etc but they can get out of hand so a 'trained security is needed' and IF they cannot control a situation, the police then need to step in, thats what the police are for.

 

No one should be getting knocked out in this manner....  its a very close step away from killing someone.....  These Bouncers / Security guards need training.

 

 

All nice on paper. Not so nice in reality. You are asking a solitary person who is being attacked to "restrain". Thing is, if you watch the  video, the assailant was coming at him with intent to do physical harm. The victim was  both legally and morally allowed to  defend himself. These events are unpredictable and the safest course of action is to  incapacitate the violent assailant. The security personnel are not there to  be the target of abuse of  customers.

 

The reality is that normal  rational people do not attack people. I doubt this is the first time that the assailant has done this. I also expect that he has a history of violence. The thug was the assailant, and yes he got what he was due. Not the victim's fault if the assailant was injured. Yours is an argument for not taking responsibility for inappropriate conduct. It is always someone else's fault.

[jacko45k]

11 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Why did the fool follow him? 

Exactly, because he wanted to fight!

[Gottfrid]

6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

No it doesn't...  it just says there are 60 idiots...  

 

A sea of simpletons mindlessly clicking ‘like’ does not bestow wisdom upon ignorance, nor does the applause of fools make a falsehood true.

That is a reply, signed Richard.

[Gottfrid]

7 hours ago, roo860 said:

Kinda of says you spouting your usual anti British rhetoric.

No, it doesn´t! That statement goes with no regard to nationality

[roo860]

Absolute nonsense you can't help yourself with your anti British slurs.

[quake]

18 hours ago, kwak250 said:

 

Another tough guy!

 

 

 

Bet his a champion on MMA,  Xbox 360.  

 

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

11 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

All nice on paper. Not so nice in reality. You are asking a solitary person who is being attacked to "restrain".

 

He 'wasn't solitary' he was with three other bouncers - and I'm sure there were more out of shot.

If you look at the video taken from the alley, after the Brit has been grounded, there are 7 security guards (by my count).

 

11 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Thing is, if you watch the  video, the assailant was coming at him with intent to do physical harm.

 

If you watch the whole video, it tells a more complete story.

 

1) 3x Brits try and get access to a club - they are too drunk and security refuses them.

2) Brits should have just moved on - 1 of them is an idiot and doesn't want to move on.

3) Idiot Brit starts an argument with one of the security guards.

4) Both security guard and Brit become agitated.

5) Security guard swings at Brit but appears to miss (2:33 mark on the vid)

6) Brit tries to retaliate and is held back by one of the other Brits (in the light blue shirt).

7) While the Brit being held back (arms held) the Security guard sucker punches the Brit (2:50 mark).

8) Brit in light blue shirt continues to try to restrain his idiot mate.

9) It takes a short while for things to de-escalate before the Brits appear to make the decision to move along (3:33 mark in the vid).

 

From here on in - this is where I think most people have it wrong because they only saw the 'latter part of the video' not the full clip.

 

10) The security guard takes off his uniform (3:24)

11) The security guard follows the Brits into the road (3:32)

11) The security guard walks into the alley, says something to the Brit (3:52)

12) The security guard waves to the Brit numerous times to follow him into the alley (3:54)

13) The Brit is stupid enough to follow him

14) The Brit walks after / up to the Security guard in a very aggressive manner

15) The Security Guard Sucker Punches him to the head and drops the Brit. \

 

From the 3:24 mark in the Video - the Security Guard appears to plan his attack by encouraging to get the Brits off the street into an alley so he can attack them - the Brit guy stupidly obliges.

 

The Security was not not walking away to take a break and have some noodles - he planned to assault the Brit who was stupid enough to follow him.

 

 

11 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The victim was  both legally and morally allowed to  defend himself. These events are unpredictable and the safest course of action is to  incapacitate the violent assailant. The security personnel are not there to  be the target of abuse of  customers.

 

Once the Altercation had moved to the alley, the security guard was not defending himself, he was instigating further altercation and escalating to extreme violence - which is where consequences could have been far serious (potentially deadly as we have seen before).

 

 

11 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The reality is that normal  rational people do not attack people. I doubt this is the first time that the assailant has done this. I also expect that he has a history of violence. The thug was the assailant, and yes he got what he was due. Not the victim's fault if the assailant was injured. Yours is an argument for not taking responsibility for inappropriate conduct. It is always someone else's fault.

 

Agreed - the Brit is an unhinged idiot and should never have behaving like this. If he can't handle his drink, he should not be drinking. 

The Security guard was a thug looking for a violent outcome instead of trying to escalate.

 

Also note: Contrary to reports - no security guard was kicked at... No security guard was kicked in the testicles (as claimed by the security guard).

 

 

Watch the full video and see what you think once the 'anti-brit' bias on this forum is removed.

 

IMO - the Brit guy was clearly a drunk idiot looking for a fight. 

IMO - the Security was also a thug and once triggered was also looking for a fight.

 

Full video here:

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

8 hours ago, jacko45k said:

19 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Why did the fool follow him? 

Exactly, because he wanted to fight!

 

Agreed - the Brit was an utter idiot and 'created the escalation' when he could have walked in the opposite direction. 

 

BUT...   Those suggesting the Security Guard was defending himself are also wrong - the security guard was not only happy for the situation to escalate, it appears he actively encouraged it and lured the Brit into the ally before sucker punching him. 

[RocketDog]

Does anybody know a way to auto-block news updates concerning Pattaya? Similar to the way I can block anything from certain members.

 

Like some AN members, this is getting terribly redundant and predictable.

 

Nothing new, just continual chaos.

[saakura]

On 3/3/2025 at 9:54 AM, Peterw42 said:

 

How can you make theses statements ? Have you seen a video that others have not ?

I have never known Thailand to have any gangs or gang related activity

Thailand is full of violent gangs. Japanese Yakuza, British/Australian/Danish biker gangs, Chinese criminal syndicates, etc. It is a magnet for criminals from all over.