4 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

C) (And this is the most important one).  How does that justify vandalism and burning stuff down and swatting and other acts of violence?

 

 

It's NOT justified, just as the people who were swatted/threatened by MAGA (a la Governor Whitmore) were unjustly attacked. It's NOT justified for FBI agents who were just doing their jobs to be fired because they had anything to do with the theft of government documents. It's NOT justified for 47 to have recently gone to the DOJ and spew a maniacal diatribe directing the investigators to target his political enemies.

 

Until BOTH sides grow TF up, this is just how things are. I honestly believe a civil war is coming.

4 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

It's NOT justified, just as the people who were swatted/threatened by MAGA (a la Governor Whitmore)

 

Wasn't that the FBI operation that took a group of misfits that couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery and walked them through the entire plot, holding their hands and providing support all along the way?

 

15 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

A) Until someone shows me an actual accounting, I have no clue whether they've saved any money.  Neither do the knobs reporting that they do know.  We won't know for at least a few quarters.

 

B) Show me a politician that doesn't put a favorable spin on their programs and forecast rainbows and lollypops.

 

C) (And this is the most important one).  How does that justify vandalism and burning stuff down and swatting and other acts of violence?

 

 

A)  Knobs?  And who would you say is qualified to give an actual accounting?  So far, I have not seen any rebuttals by either Trump or Musk about reports by knobs.  

 

B)  Lying is not the same as putting on a favorable spin.

 

C)  Show me where I said vandalism is justified.  You can't because I didn't.

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Wasn't that the FBI operation that took a group of misfits that couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery and walked them through the entire plot, holding their hands and providing support all along the way?

 

Are you talking about something reported by knobs?  Link, please.

1 minute ago, Hawaiian said:

C)  Show me where I said vandalism is justified.  You can't because I didn't.

 

That's kinda the theme of the thread.  It's in the title.

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Are you talking about something reported by knobs?  Link, please.

 

Start here on AP.  Go down the rabbit hole as far as you want... (Sorry I still can't get links to work, but I'm sure this will be enough to Google it)

 

Entrapment in play as appeals court looks at plot to kidnap Michigan governor | AP News

 

It may be a while before Kash Patel gets around to investigating this case.  His plate is rather full.  So is Bondi's.

 

Here's a snippet...  “They were talking about doing this before they ever met the informants,” he said. “Adam Fox said we need to take our tyrants as hostages two weeks before he had ever met a government informant. Barry Croft had been talking about it much longer.”

 

They were talking about it before they met the informants.  But they never did anything about it until the FBI stepped in and helped. 

 

 

10 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

That's kinda the theme of the thread.  It's in the title.

 

 

 

How knobby of you.

5 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

How knobby of you.

 

The difference is that I'm knobby on my own dime.  The knobs in the MSM and gub'ment and NGOs are getting paid to advance their propaganda.

 

12 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Start here on AP.  Go down the rabbit hole as far as you want... (Sorry I still can't get links to work, but I'm sure this will be enough to Google it)

 

Entrapment in play as appeals court looks at plot to kidnap Michigan governor | AP News

 

It may be a while before Kash Patel gets around to investigating this case.  His plate is rather full.  So is Bondi's.

 

If it was entrapment why did three of the five plead guilty? The other two were acquitted.

Let's see how far the appeals process goes, if anywhere.

 

6 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

The difference is that I'm knobby on my own dime.  The knobs in the MSM and gub'ment and NGOs are getting paid to advance their propaganda.

 

Are you admitting that you are foolish and incompetent or is it incompetent and foolish?

Americans have the right to protest. Burning Teslas is not the way.

3 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

If it was entrapment why did three of the five plead guilty? The other two were acquitted.

Let's see how far the appeals process goes, if anywhere.

 

If you've been following these cases (not just this one), the gist is that they offer short sentences for the ones that plead guilty and even shorter sentences to those who roll over and say bad things about the others.  That's all a guilty plea means.  It's pretty common (albeit sad) for innocent people to plead guilty to avoid the risk of a long sentence.  Especially in a political prosecution.

 

 

21 hours ago, impulse said:

 

If we're knuckle draggers, how is it that you geniuses lost?  The White House, the Senate and the House.  That takes next level stupidity, to lose to a 34x convicted felon.

 

Not too hard to fathom really......the "poorly educated" and knuckle draggers were taken in by a grifter and conman and succeeded by a slim majority. All this speaks volumes for the naïveté and simple-mindedness of many Americans, sad to say.

 

The stupidity belongs to those mentioned above, as is being seen at this moment in time.

And yes he is a 34x convicted felon and he will remain that way because he can't change the way he is.

21 hours ago, impulse said:

 

If we're knuckle draggers, how is it that you geniuses lost?  The White House, the Senate and the House.  That takes next level stupidity, to lose to a 34x convicted felon.

 

No the next level stupidity was the cultists that voted for the 34x convicted felon. Thanks for finally admitting what a pos Trump is but you support him anyway. Nice moral compass you got there.

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

If you've been following these cases (not just this one), the gist is that they offer short sentences for the ones that plead guilty and even shorter sentences to those who roll over and say bad things about the others.  That's all a guilty plea means.  It's pretty common (albeit sad) for innocent people to plead guilty to avoid the risk of a long sentence.  Especially in a political prosecution.

 

 

"That's all a guilty plea means."  Not where I come from.  There can and usually are serious consequences to pleading guilty.

22 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Im sorry. They usually let most folks in.

Yeah when they have no where else that will take them in or they can afford then go to scambodia 

Just now, Hawaiian said:

"That's all a guilty plea means."  Not where I come from.  There can and usually are serious consequences to pleading guilty.

 

If you had a choice between 3 months (if that) for pleading guilty or up to 20 years if we have to go to court, which would you choose?

 

 

5 minutes ago, xylophone said:

And yes he is a 34x convicted felon and he will remain that way because he can't change the way he is.

 

The reason he'll stay a 34x convicted felon is because the judge didn't give him a custodial sentence so any appeal would be all risk with no upside.  He'd win on appeal, but why risk it?

 

7 minutes ago, Dan O said:

No the next level stupidity was the cultists that voted for the 34x convicted felon. Thanks for finally admitting what a pos Trump is but you support him anyway. Nice moral compass you got there.

 

All I hear is "Boo hoo".  Lefty tears.

 

 

28 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Yeah when they have no where else that will take them in or they can afford then go to scambodia 

Are you implying something without the cojones to say it?

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Are you implying something without the cojones to say it?

Doubt it...........

On 3/14/2025 at 2:54 PM, riclag said:

Tesla’s have been set on fire, vandalized. Charging stations have been burned , dealerships vandalized.

Molotov cocktails & bombs have been 

introduced.

Swastikas spray painted on everything Tesla, Musk

By people born in America, not South Africa, correct?

 

I'm going to keep asking this question everytime you fall for a foreign immigrant's bald faced lies. 😭

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

So very typical of morally bankrupt billionaires. Lock him up. 

They did pay 300+ million to china though.

3 hours ago, impulse said:

 

All I hear is "Boo hoo".  Lefty tears.

 

 

Nope what you heard was a fact. That may be why you didn't recognize it 

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Are you implying something without the cojones to say it?

I think I was pretty clear in what I said.  Read it again and it might sink in. 

On 3/15/2025 at 8:21 AM, jerrymahoney said:

So Riclag replies to Riclag's reply to Riclag's topic.

Kinda like Norman Bates having a conversation with 'Mother'.

Not of course that Riclag would be biased in any way against, in his own words "the left wing".

On 3/15/2025 at 9:36 AM, jerrymahoney said:

The above indeed is the 2024 election by county, but in many (most?) of those counties, there are more cows than people.

And the cows seem to be the ones with the brains.

If one was to make a poll now all over Europe, you would be surprised (or shocked) on the amount of european voters who dream to have Mr Trump run their country or the European Union.

4 hours ago, xylophone said:

Not too hard to fathom really......the "poorly educated" and knuckle draggers were taken in by a grifter and conman and succeeded by a slim majority. All this speaks volumes for the naïveté and simple-mindedness of many Americans, sad to say.

 

The stupidity belongs to those mentioned above, as is being seen at this moment in time.

And yes he is a 34x convicted felon and he will remain that way because he can't change the way he is.

What does the 34X convicted felon statement have to do with anything?   Anyone with a brain knows these were trumped up changed pushed by Alvin Bragg.