Thailand set White Lotus brings fresh spotlight on "incest"

[Jingthing]

First of all, White Lotus is a great series.

Do watch it.

In the current Thailand set White Lotus season 3 probably the most talked about plot line involves "incest" between two brothers.

Their story is specific and complicated so certainly wouldn't represent "incest" between brothers in general though.

 

Anyway, you may ask why I put "incest" in quotes in this case?

 

Well, I doubt that sex between brothers is actually incest in the same way it would be between a brother and a sister.

 

Why do I say this? Well, I'm not an anthropologist but I did grow up with a sister and for me the incest taboo felt intensely hard wired. Yes the very idea of anything sexual between us was unthinkable. I won't get into my sister's weird relationship with our male toy poodle as that's another thing entirely. Woof.

 

I didn't have a brother so I can't say whether I personally would have felt the hard wired incest taboo as strongly if I had, but I seriously doubt it. 

 

In the gay world gay siblings even twin gay siblings are not extremely rare. Indeed it's considered "hot" openly talked about and of course not an uncommon area of exploration in the X rated industry. Some men even seek threesomes with two brothers.

 

So now we have a very popular pop culture event bringing "incest" out in the open and seemingly presenting their "brotherly love" as representative of incest in general. They're both dudes. Neither could get pregnant as with "real" incest.

 

 

[MalcolmB]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Well, I doubt that sex between brothers is actually incest in the same way it would be between a brother and a sister.

Well no, incest between brothers would hurt like buggery.

 

You are an American right?

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Well no, incest between brothers would hurt like buggery.

 

You are an American right?

That wouldn't be necessary for it to be sexual.

You are an Albanian right?

[Celsius]

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[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Sigmund Freud was an Austrian neurologist. He is considered the father of psychoanalysis, and although many of his ideas have been scientifically debunked, he was important in laying the groundwork for psychology, psychiatry and psychotherapy as we know it today.

His most famous proposal was that of the Oedipus complex, which was the idea that children unconsciously, in a repressed way, wish to have a sexual relationship with their parent of the opposite sex - boys with their mothers, girls with their fathers

Uh huh.

Well, I'm more focused on sibling stuff here.

I did have crushes on both male and female cousins.

It was going well with a female cousin until I accidentally hit her in the head with a golf club while playing miniature golf. Don't ask. 

As far as the male cousins, I suppose the social taboo against homosexuality trumped the incest taboo.

 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

When I travelled to the USA a few years back I was in Vance territory.

I was having a beer or ten with some inbred looking young brothers.
One of the group said something about having sex with his sister. 
I looked in disbelief and said that that was terrible.

All the boys laughed at me and one said “He must have ugly sister”

 

American porn is heavily into sex between siblings and “step mothers” also.

They are strange people.

Fair points. 

[Jingthing]

As long as we're on this topic, this is probably a good place to talk about reactions to the "incest" plot line in White Lotus. Two more episodes to go. 

[MalcolmB]

15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Well, I'm more focused on sibling stuff here.

I did have crushes on both male and female cousins.

 

I doubt your TV show shows the reality of incest.

It might be fashionable in America but it does work out well. 

[proton]

40 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

First of all, White Lotus is a great series.

Do watch it.

In the current Thailand set White Lotus season 3 probably the most talked about plot line involves "incest" between two brothers.

Their story is specific and complicated so certainly wouldn't represent "incest" between brothers in general though.

 

Anyway, you may ask why I put "incest" in quotes in this case?

 

Well, I doubt that sex between brothers is actually incest in the same way it would be between a brother and a sister.

 

Why do I say this? Well, I'm not an anthropologist but I did grow up with a sister and for me the incest taboo felt intensely hard wired. Yes the very idea of anything sexual between us was unthinkable. I won't get into my sister's weird relationship with our male toy poodle as that's another thing entirely. Woof.

 

I didn't have a brother so I can't say whether I personally would have felt the hard wired incest taboo as strongly if I had, but I seriously doubt it. 

 

In the gay world gay

siblings even twin gay siblings are not extremely rare. Indeed it's considered "hot" openly talked about and of course not an uncommon area of exploration in the X rated industry. Some men even seek threesomes with two brothers.

 

So now we have a very popular pop culture event bringing "incest" out in the open and seemingly presenting their "brotherly love" as representative of incest in general. They're both dudes. Neither could get pregnant as with "real" incest.

 

 

 

Are you telling us you wanked your brother off as well?

[Jingthing]

Just now, proton said:

 

Are you telling us you wanked your brother off as well?

That would have been really hard as I don't have a brother.

I did project brotherly feelings on my male cousins which was weird for them as they all had actual brothers.

I miss not having a brother and I don't mean for the "incest" part.

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

That would have been really hard as I don't have a brother.

I did project brotherly feelings on my male cousins which was weird for them as they all had actual brothers.

I miss not having a brother and I don't mean for the "incest" part.

I had a brother. Total scumbag. Sisters be better. Learn more about women.

[brewsterbudgen]

Not sure why this has been posted in 'political soapbox', but I agree it's a great series.  I still prefer Season 1 as it was more light-hearted (and new), but I'm loving the 'Thai' angle in this one.

 

The suppressed gayness of the brothers is intriguing and very relevant to the Thai setting.   

[fredwiggy]

34 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

When I travelled to the USA a few years back I was in Vance territory.

I was having a beer or ten with some inbred looking young brothers.
One of the group said something about having sex with his sister. 
I looked in disbelief and said that that was terrible.

All the boys laughed at me and one said “He must have ugly sister”

 

American porn is heavily into sex between siblings and “step mothers” also.

They are strange people.

Might try switching your porn watching into something different. Don't judge Americans on your porn habits. We all aren't into strange things as all Brits aren't all loud mouthed drunks. Next time you visit the US, it might be a better idea and be careful what you say to the "inbreds" you hang out with.

[fredwiggy]

18 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

 

I doubt your TV show shows the reality of incest.

It might be fashionable in America but it does work out well. 

It isn't "fashionable" but despised. It does work out well? Is that in your experience?

[hotsun]

7 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Might try switching your porn watching into something different. Don't judge Americans on your porn habits. We all aren't into strange things as all Brits aren't all loud mouthed drunks. Next time you visit the US, it might be a better idea and be careful what you say to the "inbreds" you hang out with.

I dont believe that guy has ever been to the US. I also dont believe hes british

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, hotsun said:

I dont believe that guy has ever been to the US. I also dont believe hes british

One never knows with all the lies and exaggerations we hear here daily.

[SAFETY FIRST]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

 involves "incest" between two brothers

Gawd, poor parenting, poor genes or both. 

[fredwiggy]

5 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Gawd, poor parenting, poor genes or both. 

Somewhat true, but the predator is totally to blame no matter the circumstances, and it's usually the male involved, although there are cases of both parents being the perpetrators........Throughout history, societies have circumscribed certain forms of intimacy in the family setting. Transgression has been punished by force of ecclesiastical rules and government statutes. However, no single definition of incest is widely accepted, as the degree of kinship in which marriage is allowed and the age of consent vary. Fueled in part by the current emphasis on child abuse prevention, the reporting of incest is increasing. The perpetrator in the majority of reported cases is a male adult, and most often the victim is a young girl. Other dyads do occur and are probably under-estimated in frequency. Disturbed family relationships generate a shift in individual responsibilities and expectations that can lead to incest. A lack of spousal sexual activity is a common preceding factor. The sequelae of this breach of family integrity are significant. Frequently, the family itself is destroyed; the destruction often begins before incest occurs. The victim faces a future characterized by emotional turmoil, diminished self-esteem, impaired interpersonal relationships, and impulsive acting-out behavior. Family and individual therapy, participation in support groups, and referral for chemical dependency treatment are essential if future problems in the lives of everyone involved are to be avoided. ..........https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2726650/.

[MalcolmB]

24 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Don't judge Americans on your porn habits.

That you produce that genre is disturbing for us civilized people.

And even more disturbing is it’s huge popularity.

 

In the USA it is known as “family porn”.

It is pretty sick Fred IMO.

 

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[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

That you produce that genre is disturbing for us civilized people.

And even more disturbing is it’s huge popularity.

 

In the USA it is known as “family porn”.

It is pretty sick Fred IMO.

 

https://medium.com/@bwcutler1000/step-moms-and-step-sisters-where-did-all-this-family-porn-come-from-31d728853282

That things developed in America isn't a reason to judge all of us. There are weirdos in every country but it isn't good thinking to judge a whole country by the habits of some. That some porn is followed by many shows how many sick people the world has. Penthouse had millions of followers, and many didn't know just how sick Bob Guccione was, as well as Epstein, Diddy and Cosby, just to name three out of many in Hollywood and celebrities millions used to look up to.

[Oliver Holzerfilled]

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[fredwiggy]

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[Grumpy one]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

When I travelled to the USA a few years back I was in Vance territory.

I was having a beer or ten with some inbred looking young brothers.
One of the group said something about having sex with his sister. 
I looked in disbelief and said that that was terrible.

All the boys laughed at me and one said “He must have ugly sister”

 

American porn is heavily into sex between siblings and “step mothers” also.

They are strange people.

So you were attracted to the inbred brothers

[steven100]

oh dear,  this is a very silly topic.  The act between the brothers is nothing to do with incest,  it's simply gay sex, nothing more,  and could happen with many young teen brothers in remote villages.

 

you need to get a hobby.   

[MalcolmB]

12 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

That things developed in America isn't a reason to judge all of us. There are weirdos in every country but it isn't good thinking to judge a whole country by the habits of some. That some porn is followed by many shows how many sick people the world has. Penthouse had millions of followers, and many didn't know just how sick Bob Guccione was, as well as Epstein, Diddy and Cosby, just to name three out of many in Hollywood and celebrities millions used to look up to.

The things you walk past are the things you condone.

It is the sign of a sick society that goes all the way up to the democratically elected president.

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In civilized countries this behavior soul disqualify him from government, it wouldn’t be celebrated.

 

 

 

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

The things you walk past are the things you condone.

It is the sign of a sick society that goes all the way up to the democratically elected president.

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In civilized countries this behavior soul disqualify him from government, it wouldn’t be celebrated.

 

 

 

Many things are allowed in the world that are downright dangerous and sick, but money and corruption has them get by. Some things are voted for by well meaning people who can't see the reality behind the lies until it's found out later. Individuals can't change things but a majority can. That so many are into human trafficking, the slave use that's higher now then ever before, electing officials that are replaced by those already in charge, getting bribes to allow sexual deviance and forced prostitution shows there are a lot of very disturbed people around, and they live right next door to many of us.

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

When I travelled to the USA a few years back I was in Vance territory.

I was having a beer or ten with some inbred looking young brothers.
One of the group said something about having sex with his sister. 
I looked in disbelief and said that that was terrible.

All the boys laughed at me and one said “He must have ugly sister”

 

Ohio, eh?  And they have the nerve to mock Kentucky!

A fellow from Ohio told me this one:

What is a Kentucky virgin?

A ten year old girl who can outrun all her brothers.

 

[MalcolmB]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That would have been really hard as I don't have a brother.

Thank Christ for that.

[Jingthing]

9 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Thank Christ for that.

Bless your dear heart.

[Cameroni]

Brothers fornicating? This is the interesting plot line? Plus suicide? Well that sounds delightful. i'll download that right now.