Retirement visa, under consideration ???

[Justanotherone]

This was supposed to be my first retirement extension in Bangkok, my 3rd in total, coming from another province.

 

I had all my needed legal documents, bank statements, bank letter, 800k, my own condo with chanote.

 

Last year I moved my money legally from Kasikorn to Krungsri. In 2 400.000 steps... you know, to not go under the 400k minimum and start with the 400k minimum in the allowed period after 3 months of approval.

 

So I brought my Krungsri bank papers with me.

 

Nothing to do Kasikorn since beginning of 2023.

 

I thought it would be a quick 60 minutes in and out... had appointment made, a month in advance.

 

The supervisor comes to me and say, I don't trust your 800k retirement visa in Samut Prakarn... 

 

You need to show me bank statements of your OLD bank starting 2023.

 

My Krungsri had 15 months of 800.000 in the bank and off course, I did not bring a bankbook of a bank I do not business with, specially for immigration.

 

She forced me to go to the bank, without passbook, the bank would not want to make a certified statement or show me the history.

 

500 baht they took for an email statement that they would not put a stamp on, or print in the bank.

 

I hoped with this that the IO would just give me extension, as this was not my first one and I got the statement she wanted from 2023 till now.

 

Nope, we will consider it, never heard of that for a retirement extension and come back after songkran.

 

And... get new bank statements and bank letter, from Krungsri, as... your paper will have 'expired'

 

like what the hell

 

Took me 7 hours to go there, wait and back to get nothing.

 

I have my own condo and they still asked for a tabien baan of ... my ex wife and maybe if I had a copy of her id card? 

 

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

 

divorced for a reason, not being there for anything but my own retirement extension, nothing to do with my ex...

 

 

guess they really like to F with people ...

 

 

anybody else ever had this kind of crap ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[CharlieH]

MOVED TO visa forum 

[CharlieH]

I would have insisted on seeing someone else, ideally an appointment with the boss ! That story is just wrong on so many levels, no way I'd tolerate that. 

[proton]

1 hour ago, Justanotherone said:

anybody else ever had this kind of crap ?

 

 

In 2007 Samut Prakan officer told me they did not really do extensions, and that I should get one in Bangkok, even though we lived in in Samut Prakan. Last year made me go back home to get bank book from previous years extension, that had nothing to do with last years. Keeps you on yer toes😚

[NorthernRyland]

Anyone one of these people can dick you around for whatever reason they see fit. Your experience could have been totally opposite with a different person in a different location.

[FritsSikkink]

"start with the 400k minimum in the allowed period after 3 months of approval."

Don't get this, explain please.

[DrJack54]

4 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

"start with the 400k minimum in the allowed period after 3 months of approval."

Don't get this, explain please.

He means that in order to move the funds into a new account by waiting till after the 3 months requiring 800k and then moved 400k into a new account.

That way he always has .minimum of 400k after the 3 month 800k requirement. 

[kingstonkid]

Reading these reaffirms why I won't move from pathum thani 

 

😂 

[Thingamabob]

16 hours ago, Justanotherone said:

This was supposed to be my first retirement extension in Bangkok, my 3rd in total, coming from another province.

 

I had all my needed legal documents, bank statements, bank letter, 800k, my own condo with chanote.

 

Last year I moved my money legally from Kasikorn to Krungsri. In 2 400.000 steps... you know, to not go under the 400k minimum and start with the 400k minimum in the allowed period after 3 months of approval.

 

So I brought my Krungsri bank papers with me.

 

Nothing to do Kasikorn since beginning of 2023.

 

I thought it would be a quick 60 minutes in and out... had appointment made, a month in advance.

 

The supervisor comes to me and say, I don't trust your 800k retirement visa in Samut Prakarn... 

 

You need to show me bank statements of your OLD bank starting 2023.

 

My Krungsri had 15 months of 800.000 in the bank and off course, I did not bring a bankbook of a bank I do not business with, specially for immigration.

 

She forced me to go to the bank, without passbook, the bank would not want to make a certified statement or show me the history.

 

500 baht they took for an email statement that they would not put a stamp on, or print in the bank.

 

I hoped with this that the IO would just give me extension, as this was not my first one and I got the statement she wanted from 2023 till now.

 

Nope, we will consider it, never heard of that for a retirement extension and come back after songkran.

 

And... get new bank statements and bank letter, from Krungsri, as... your paper will have 'expired'

 

like what the hell

 

Took me 7 hours to go there, wait and back to get nothing.

 

I have my own condo and they still asked for a tabien baan of ... my ex wife and maybe if I had a copy of her id card? 

 

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

 

divorced for a reason, not being there for anything but my own retirement extension, nothing to do with my ex...

 

 

guess they really like to F with people ...

 

 

anybody else ever had this kind of crap ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No.

[mikeymike100]

17 hours ago, Justanotherone said:

This was supposed to be my first retirement extension in Bangkok, my 3rd in total, coming from another province.

 

I had all my needed legal documents, bank statements, bank letter, 800k, my own condo with chanote.

 

Last year I moved my money legally from Kasikorn to Krungsri. In 2 400.000 steps... you know, to not go under the 400k minimum and start with the 400k minimum in the allowed period after 3 months of approval.

 

So I brought my Krungsri bank papers with me.

 

Nothing to do Kasikorn since beginning of 2023.

 

I thought it would be a quick 60 minutes in and out... had appointment made, a month in advance.

 

The supervisor comes to me and say, I don't trust your 800k retirement visa in Samut Prakarn... 

 

You need to show me bank statements of your OLD bank starting 2023.

 

My Krungsri had 15 months of 800.000 in the bank and off course, I did not bring a bankbook of a bank I do not business with, specially for immigration.

 

She forced me to go to the bank, without passbook, the bank would not want to make a certified statement or show me the history.

 

500 baht they took for an email statement that they would not put a stamp on, or print in the bank.

 

I hoped with this that the IO would just give me extension, as this was not my first one and I got the statement she wanted from 2023 till now.

 

Nope, we will consider it, never heard of that for a retirement extension and come back after songkran.

 

And... get new bank statements and bank letter, from Krungsri, as... your paper will have 'expired'

 

like what the hell

 

Took me 7 hours to go there, wait and back to get nothing.

 

I have my own condo and they still asked for a tabien baan of ... my ex wife and maybe if I had a copy of her id card? 

 

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

 

divorced for a reason, not being there for anything but my own retirement extension, nothing to do with my ex...

 

 

guess they really like to F with people ...

 

 

anybody else ever had this kind of crap ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And people wonder why some folks use agents??

[WDSmart]

No, I've lived in Thailand for over 20 years on an O visa and, at times, have filed for a one-year extension using either marriage or retirement qualifications (I've flipped back and forth several times). I currently have a retirement-based extension. I have never had the problems you've described, although I when getting a one-year extension on my retirement visa, I am asked to provide my Thia wife's ID. I don't know why that is, except that before, I did extend based on marriage requirements. Anyway, everything has gone well. Sorry to hear about your problems. I don't know where you live, but you might want to consider going to a different Immigration Office for your next one-year extension.

[JJ-Thailand]

This is the reason why I have kept a bit over 800,000 Baht in the same Thai bank account since 2017 when I got my O retirement visa. Only use the account for my visa extension every year and have never had any problem. Use an account at another bank for expenses.

[Kerryd]

36 minutes ago, JJ-Thailand said:

This is the reason why I have kept a bit over 800,000 Baht in the same Thai bank account since 2017 when I got my O retirement visa. Only use the account for my visa extension every year and have never had any problem. Use an account at another bank for expenses.

Same. I put the 800k in a Fixed Term account back in 2011 and it's been there ever since.
I have another Fixed Term account I use when transferring money from back home and a normal Savings account that I use for my day-to-day needs.

Zero requirement to move your money to a different bank. Even if you changed provinces. Just go to the nearest branch of that bank and have the account "transferred" from your old branch. The account number doesn't change so there's no hassles about the "minimum 400k" business.

[DrJack54]

11 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

Zero requirement to move your money to a different bank.

You miss the point of the OP. He wanted to change banks....

"Last year I moved my money legally from Kasikorn to Krungsri"

[Rob Browder]

3 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

And people wonder why some folks use agents??

Exactly.  Why comply with all  the rules, only to go through a rigamarole to which those using agents - who may have only a pittance in a Thai bank-account - are not subjected?   In this case, they seem to think he might have used an agent before, and don't want the gravy-train to stop.

 

"We suspect your previous immigration office committed fraud?"  "OK, so why don't you take it up with THEM?"   Perhaps, because they'd laugh, since the Bangkok office runs the same scheme for ~15K Baht?

 

So far, my retirement-based extensions have been no-issues.  But if that changes, I am investing my 800K in something useful.  Immigration clearly would prefer it this way.  I'll take the hint, when the day comes ("when" not "if" - IMO - I'm expecting it).  It's their country, and if they want to run their Immigration 3rd World style - up to them.

[Justanotherone]

 

 

 

some people like to read half and put their comment...

 

my 2nd retirement visa was done in samut prakarn, when I had bank letters and statements from both kasikorn and krungsri, which showed the 'transit' in a 400k/400k split, when you are allowed to go under 800k but always abour 400k...

 

my bank statement showed 15 months of krungsri at 800k...

 

the supervisor of the IO came up with this rule, she claimed online on the website (yeah right, nothing there off course), that I had to re certify my money from 2 years ago...

 

what if I closed off that kasikorn account as it had no use, then I had no chance because of this bullcrap fake made up rule to even get my extension legally... that was probably the idea

 

 

 

so, if the supervisor of the IO is pulling this crap, where exactly do I go to complain about the supervisor, like some person commented

 

it is not that they have a complaint about our service booth

[Justanotherone]

I changed to Krungsri, because I could get a whopping  0.9%  (the one that thai people get 1.5%, farang less, off course)

 

while that kasikorn account gave 0.1 or even 0.01% a year...

 

I would prefer the use SCB account which gives 1.5%, that is without a passbook...how the h377 do people update if you don't have a passbook... an ATM receipt???  I mean to please their IO's requirements...

 

I'll go after songkran as instructed, and just in case, will bring my kids birth certificates, just in case they ask for it (they are adults and don't live with me anymore, they have their own condo that I provided for them)

[keysersoze276]

10 hours ago, Justanotherone said:

 

 

 

some people like to read half and put their comment...

 

my 2nd retirement visa was done in samut prakarn, when I had bank letters and statements from both kasikorn and krungsri, which showed the 'transit' in a 400k/400k split, when you are allowed to go under 800k but always abour 400k...

 

my bank statement showed 15 months of krungsri at 800k...

 

the supervisor of the IO came up with this rule, she claimed online on the website (yeah right, nothing there off course), that I had to re certify my money from 2 years ago...

 

what if I closed off that kasikorn account as it had no use, then I had no chance because of this bullcrap fake made up rule to even get my extension legally... that was probably the idea

 

 

 

so, if the supervisor of the IO is pulling this crap, where exactly do I go to complain about the supervisor, like some person commented

 

it is not that they have a complaint about our service booth

Some people only read half when it becomes clear that you leave out the details.   When was your second retirement visa done?  2001?  Let’s play hot/cold and see if we can get the full story. Pin the tail on the donkey?
 

btw- I didn’t read half. I read two sentences. That was enough. Do better next time. 
 

[Sophon]

13 hours ago, Kerryd said:

Same. I put the 800k in a Fixed Term account back in 2011 and it's been there ever since.
I have another Fixed Term account I use when transferring money from back home and a normal Savings account that I use for my day-to-day needs.

Zero requirement to move your money to a different bank. Even if you changed provinces. Just go to the nearest branch of that bank and have the account "transferred" from your old branch. The account number doesn't change so there's no hassles about the "minimum 400k" business.

 

In Thailand you cannot move an account from one branch to another. The first three digits of the account number is the branch number, so the only way to "move" your account to a new branch is to open a new account (with a new account number) in the new branch.

[safarimike11]

On 4/10/2025 at 9:36 PM, Justanotherone said:

This was supposed to be my first retirement extension in Bangkok, my 3rd in total, coming from another province.

 

I had all my needed legal documents, bank statements, bank letter, 800k, my own condo with chanote.

 

Last year I moved my money legally from Kasikorn to Krungsri. In 2 400.000 steps... you know, to not go under the 400k minimum and start with the 400k minimum in the allowed period after 3 months of approval.

 

So I brought my Krungsri bank papers with me.

 

Nothing to do Kasikorn since beginning of 2023.

 

I thought it would be a quick 60 minutes in and out... had appointment made, a month in advance.

 

The supervisor comes to me and say, I don't trust your 800k retirement visa in Samut Prakarn... 

 

You need to show me bank statements of your OLD bank starting 2023.

 

My Krungsri had 15 months of 800.000 in the bank and off course, I did not bring a bankbook of a bank I do not business with, specially for immigration.

 

She forced me to go to the bank, without passbook, the bank would not want to make a certified statement or show me the history.

 

500 baht they took for an email statement that they would not put a stamp on, or print in the bank.

 

I hoped with this that the IO would just give me extension, as this was not my first one and I got the statement she wanted from 2023 till now.

 

Nope, we will consider it, never heard of that for a retirement extension and come back after songkran.

 

And... get new bank statements and bank letter, from Krungsri, as... your paper will have 'expired'

 

like what the hell

 

Took me 7 hours to go there, wait and back to get nothing.

 

I have my own condo and they still asked for a tabien baan of ... my ex wife and maybe if I had a copy of her id card? 

 

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

 

divorced for a reason, not being there for anything but my own retirement extension, nothing to do with my ex...

 

 

guess they really like to F with people ...

 

 

anybody else ever had this kind of crap ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This suggestion might be totally unhelpful in your situation at present, but maybe for the future: 1. Deposit your 800k in Bangkok bank in a one-year fixed account (currently paying around 1% - either gross or net, need to check). My bank just renews it every year and rolls over the interest; the only time I go to the bank - in this regard - is to get my annual letter for Immigration.

[dpcjsr]

It sounds like you are doing this on your own. 

 

Immigrations wants you to use a visa assistance agency. They make money when it is done that way. 

 

They will make your life difficult unless you switch to using an agency. I just spent 3 hours in the Hua Hin migration office where the boss and the worker went out of their way to make the process slow and painful. My wife and I have done this many times so we know what we are doing and we had all of the necessary documents and copies. They just made up extra things for us to do and to slow things down. Disturbing. They were clearly hoping to make us go thru an agency next time. 

[Rob Browder]

5 hours ago, Sophon said:

In Thailand you cannot move an account from one branch to another. The first three digits of the account number is the branch number, so the only way to "move" your account to a new branch is to open a new account (with a new account number) in the new branch.

Good info.  But note - when BKB were mass-closing branches, they "moved" my account to different branches 2x.  My account number stayed the same.

[biggles45]

I feel your pain. After living in Thailand for many years I decided to retire in the Philippines. 14 years ago I got their retirement visa and have NEVER visited an IO since. It's all handled by the PRA, a separate agency. No corrupt payments or ridiculous made-up rules. 

[DrJack54]

9 minutes ago, biggles45 said:

I feel your pain. After living in Thailand for many years I decided to retire in the Philippines. 14 years ago I got their retirement visa and have NEVER visited an IO since.

Who cares. 

This is a forum concerning Thailand.

There is a forum "visas etc to other countries"