Bruce Lee was more actor than fighter, no film of him fighting a combative fight. There is one clip of him fighting a student but none of the stories of him fighting other well known people can be verified, he was a fake as far as professional fights were concerned.

His films look like absolute garbage today.

8 minutes ago, proton said:

Bruce Lee was more actor than fighter, no film of him fighting a combative fight. There is one clip of him fighting a student but none of the stories of him fighting other well known people can be verified, he was a fake as far as professional fights were concerned.

His films look like absolute garbage today.

 

Actually more than a few to view, even one of Lee losing to a Muay Thai fighter 

 

I'm sure y'all are much better than me or Lee, but I certainly wouldn't hop in the ring with him.

8 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

 

Actually more than a few to view, even one of Lee losing to a Muay Thai fighter 

The Tao of Jeet Kune Do 

Bruce Lee makes some very shallow observations about Muay Thai which show he had very little exposure to this discipline.. For instance he wrote that low kicks would be useless against a moving target, which is clearly wrong.

 

 

10 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

 

Actually more than a few to view, even one of Lee losing to a Muay Thai fighter 

 

I'm sure y'all are much better than me or Lee, but I certainly wouldn't hop in the ring with him.

 

Any links?

He's not going to spar for real in a seminar showing an aspect or principle is he ?

 

You'd be lain flat in I estimate under 5 seconds...old he may be, but his strength and skill or beyond your loud mouth. 

Your loud mouth can talk and talk - but again, that's all it is.

 

He has methods to end fights with BJJ guys etc in seconds, they are just no allowed in cage fighting.

 

Anyway, enjoy the all walk and no talk debate with others, I'm off to have fun vs the fighting debate with some faceless person on here...haha.

9 minutes ago, proton said:

Any links?

Nah ... the Muay Thai fight was a Lee impersonator   @ 6 mins of vid ...

 

6:01

unfortunately in the midst of the fight

6:03

Bruce Lee appeared to run out of energy

6:06

he was easily taken down twice by the

6:08

Muay Thai Fighter and after being

6:11

continuously cornered Bruce Lee

6:13

eventually gave in and the Muay Thai

6:15

Fighter won this intense duel

 

 

22 minutes ago, freedomnow said:

You'd be lain flat in I estimate under 5 seconds...old he may be, but his strength and skill or beyond your loud mouth. 

Your loud mouth can talk and talk - but again, that's all it is.

 

Please, it'd be Mike Tyson vs Paul Logan all over again. Carruther is an old man, he's 66, almost 70. I'm 13 years younger.

 

23 minutes ago, freedomnow said:

He has methods to end fights with BJJ guys etc in seconds

 

Yah,  I'm sure, and Bruce Lee had an invisible punch. Against a compliant guy sitting in a chair. Lol. So much bs from all these Kung Fu and JKD people.

3 hours ago, Hummin said:

Steven Seagulls, never heard of the guy

It was a joke.

30 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Nah ... the Muay Thai fight was a Lee impersonator   @ 6 mins of vid ...

 

6:01

unfortunately in the midst of the fight

6:03

Bruce Lee appeared to run out of energy

6:06

he was easily taken down twice by the

6:08

Muay Thai Fighter and after being

6:11

continuously cornered Bruce Lee

6:13

eventually gave in and the Muay Thai

6:15

Fighter won this intense duel

 

 

 

Same old clips and claims with no evidence, not even bruce lee in some clips

12 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Same old clips and claims with no evidence, not even bruce lee in some clips

 

Yes, it's funny how all these great victories by Bruce Lee in real life are only recounted by his pals. Nobody ever filmed them. No evidence apart from hearsay. Nothing. 

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Please, it'd be Mike Tyson vs Paul Logan all over again. Carruther is an old man, he's 66, almost 70. I'm 13 years younger.

 

 

Yah,  I'm sure, and Bruce Lee had an invisible punch. Against a compliant guy sitting in a chair. Lol. So much bs from all these Kung Fu and JKD people.

Haha, you have literally no idea of his hitting power now.

 

He was a pro boxer before and a bouncer as well. I find it hliarous that assume with age comes diminshed skills, more like mastery.

 

You do not even share what you do and how long....give us a laugh.

 

4 hours ago, Hummin said:

Steven Seagulls, never heard of the guy

 

Steve 'n' Seagulls isn't a guy. Band's name is a playful twist on actor Steven Seagal's name, reflecting their humorous approach to music:

 

https://sdmntprnortheu.oaiusercontent.com/files/00000000-bee4-61f4-a238-11807cd3edf5/raw?se=2025-05-12T18%3A09%3A07Z&sp=r&sv=2024-08-04&sr=b&scid=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000&skoid=b32d65cd-c8f1-46fb-90df-c208671889d4&sktid=a48cca56-e6da-484e-a814-9c849652bcb3&skt=2025-05-12T13%3A06%3A10Z&ske=2025-05-13T13%3A06%3A10Z&sks=b&skv=2024-08-04&sig=CSvCLftHapWsncZ6RxLiUlqhI/LfJiSPKLSErZklghk%3D

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Krav maga

I thought it was krap MAGA.

How dare you...

 

 

If just sports combat and purely hand to hand then lots of others are good such as judo, sambo, lethwei (and all kickboxing styles really).

 

Some of the kung fu styles are actually much more effective than everything else you and I mentioned since they practice with weapons. In a real fight that will prove to be much more useful than trying to get a guy in a 'spinning backfist monkey paw triangle hold' while three of his friends are stomping you out.

1 hour ago, jacnl2000 said:

 

Steve 'n' Seagulls isn't a guy. Band's name is a playful twist on actor Steven Seagal's name, reflecting their humorous approach to music:

 

Picture above inserted...

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

It was a joke.

I was sarcastic

Boxer walks in to a mma gym first day

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1658P8r9TE/

 

8 hours ago, Hummin said:

If you not willing or prepared to fight, somebody else have to do it for you

BS

9 hours ago, freedomnow said:

Haha, you have literally no idea of his hitting power now.

 

He was a pro boxer before and a bouncer as well. I find it hliarous that assume with age comes diminshed skills, more like mastery.

 

You do not even share what you do and how long....give us a laugh.

 

I think I do, he's 66 his "hitting power" must be akin to a 15 year old girl now.

 

Mike Tyson too was a pro boxer before. Perhaps the best that ever was. Yet look how pitifully he got his a$$ kicked by a nobody like Paul Logan. And Tyson's only 58, Carruthers who was a nobody in boxing is 66!

 

I trained full contact Karate since 1990. Wayne Otto was my teacher. He has 9 world championships and an OBE and a 5th Dan.  Apart from Uechi-Ryu Karate I also hold belts in Bujinkai Karate. I would not feel comfortable taking on Carruthers as I'd probably injure him since he's 66 years old.

7 hours ago, kevozman1 said:

If just sports combat and purely hand to hand then lots of others are good such as judo, sambo, lethwei (and all kickboxing styles really).

 

Some of the kung fu styles are actually much more effective than everything else you and I mentioned since they practice with weapons. In a real fight that will prove to be much more useful than trying to get a guy in a 'spinning backfist monkey paw triangle hold' while three of his friends are stomping you out.

 

Judo is highly effective, particularly for grappling on the floor and is used in MMA.

 

Kung Fu does purport to be effective against weapons, which is why it is so dangerous to rely on Kung Fu, because if you trust your Kung Fu techniques will help you prevail in a knife fight you will probably die.

6 hours ago, bubblegum said:

BS

In this blue sky pink bubble world, there is no need for most to fight, you are right

 

but every day there is some who is willing to fight for you, and your freedom. Security, police armed forces, 

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

In this blue sky pink bubble world, there is no need for most to fight, you are right

 

butcevery day there is some who is willing to fight for you, and your freedom. Security, police armed forces, 

 

I don't know how much police are willing to fight for you, when I asked them to prosecute the 304 who took my 20000 baht out of my wallet the police were about as useful as a love vow from a Pattaya bar girl.

15 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Now that we have empirical evidence with MMA, it has been found that certain "martial arts" are in fact useless a real fight. This list of useless martial arts includes Chinese Kung Fu, Israeli Krav Maga, Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do and also Korean Taekwondo.

 

The martial arts that actually prove useful in a real fight are Boxing, Muay Thai, Wrestling and Jiu Jitsu.

 

https://fightingadvice.com/useless-martial-arts/

But he could catch a fly 🪰 with chopsticks mid air.

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I don't know how much police are willing to fight for you, when I asked them to prosecute the 304 who took my 20000 baht out of my wallet the police were about as useful as a love vow from a Pattaya bar girl.

Thai security and police was not in my mind, sorry my bad 😂

5 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

But he could catch a fly 🪰 with chopsticks mid air.

 

That was Miyagi San in Karate Kid. Such a great movie.

 

That's nothing compared to what Chinese Kung Fu masters claimed to be able to do.

 

"Wei boasted of using an invisible force field to keep a dove on his hand, and pulverizing a watermelon’s innards without damaging its skin. The idea that masters of kung fu achieve mystical skills is widely accepted in China; Wei is just one of many making such claims.

 

A quick glance on YouTube reveals kung fu masters with claims of telekinesis and “shamanic dances that open up other realms of existence.” Some make money by promising to train others, and many have passionate disciples; the defeated Wei, for example, has 94,000 followers on China’s Twitter-like microblog Weibo."

 

https://time.com/5448811/mma-kung-fu-xu-xiaodong/

Its nice when you are old and they start doing that Martial arts stuff at you, makes it easier to plead self defense after you bury a few 45acp hollowpoints in his chest.

No mention of Ecky-thump so must still be held in high regard.

3 minutes ago, Denim said:

No mention of Ecky-thump so must still be held in high regard.

 

Yes, very dangerous according to news reports

 

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=466257020537158

15 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I am just concerned that those who practice Krav Maga, Kung Fu or Taekwondo may believe that their "art" protects them in a real street fight.

Unbelievable BS? Did you practice your fighting speech long time? 😂

It all has to do with who is the better fighter. Of course, between equal fighters one might get an advantage with the knowledge of a certain martial art. This guy you talk about, just happens to combine a way and strategy of fighting, which makes him very good. Nothing else.