2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

I am not complaining at all, just stating the obvious 

Its obvious to all here that you are just a Putin soundbite.

Trump was never going to stop the war, he just lied ( as usual ) that he could.

 

Now he will be placing the blame elsewhere ( as usual )

4 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Its obvious to all here that you are just a Putin soundbite.

It should be obvious because I have made it perfectly clear.

I support Putin have done from the very beginning.

I was also anti American until Trump, then I liked how he called out the media, took he piss out of the stuffy nosed  politicians and made all your heads explode... on a daily basis.

The acronym we cannot mention is real, you are prime example, a non American so obsessed with him the you even get involved with domestic politics that will never effect you... same as simple1,bannork, and a few others.

Anyway, that is beside the point. Did you see Ukraine sent swarms of drones to Putins helicopter?

Don't care about that though because the media told you he is evil dictator and needs to be gone.....🐑

14 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Anyway, that is beside the point. Did you see Ukraine sent swarms of drones to Putins helicopter?

Don't care about that though because the media told you he is evil dictator and needs to be gone.....🐑

Speaking for myself I do care about it. I was very upset reading about the brave Ukrainians missing such a golden opportunity to take out Putin.

Hopefully they will get another chance and finish the job.

28 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Trump was never going to stop the war, he just lied ( as usual ) that he could.

 

Now he will be placing the blame elsewhere ( as usual )

Trump doesn't do complicated.

1 hour ago, BLMFem said:

Looking forward to when Putin is no longer among us. Then there will be at least a chance of a regime change in Russia. Of course, there is always the chance of a civil war. If that happens and everything falls apart over there the West must act quick and put the (former) country under administration for the foreseeable future, like what was done with Germany after WW2.

We can't have warlords with nukes.

 

I think that thinking has always influenced Western kids gloves policy towards Russia; better the devil you know than not. We don't really want Putin's government to collapse.

 

But to think we are worried about a sudden failure of the Russian government is in itself scary.

 

I'd like to think if there was some terrible calamity that befell the US or UK governments that we have the checks and balances  in place to ensure Brig. General Jack D. Ripper is just a movie fiction. We probably know that supposed Israeli and South African capabilities remains just a paper capability. We are probably nervous about Pakistan. At the end of the Cold War there was no doubt extensive exchange of notes between Russian and their NATO counterparts.

 

Are we worried about the Russian lack of checks and balances we are prepared to allow a war of conquest to occur because the alternative is much worse. In 1983, the NATO exercise, Able Archer, nearly caused a pre-emptive Soviet attack, except for the bravery of a Russian colonel in refusing an order.

1 hour ago, MicroB said:

 

For the latter, its a combination of the Biden administration's handling of that pull out, plus the previous administration's habit of directly negotiating with terrorists, and leaving out the legitimate Afghan government out of discussions. The Saigon debacle happened under Ford, and he shared blame, but the reasons were due to a previous President embracing a criminal regime.

 

If Putin was a normal, non-criminal leader, he would have viewed Ukraine joining the EU as an economic opportunity, a good news event for the Russian federation, leading to facilitation of greatly increased trading with the EU and the wider world. But you are right, Putin views sovereignty as a threat to Russia.

 

Yes, Russia found it all too easy to seize Crima, but using this as a reason to excuse Russia is a bit like blaming the rape victim for walking home from the pub. You are right, that Russia is a country with a small dick. Look how they shrivelled at Pristina Airport when faced with a guitar waving young Blues and Royal officer in his little Scorpion tank, when he said "No".

 

 

 

Chamberlain greenlighted Herr Hitler into invading Poland because of the reaction to Czechoslovakia, but in the end, the blame for WW2 lies with Hitler and his gang.

 

Chamberlain's defence was he wasn't trusting of the Germans, and was buying time. Halfas was genuinely trusting of the Germans, so Obama veers more towards a Halifax position.

 

Everyone seems to think history started in 2014, in terms of the root of this conflict. Not so. You can go back to 2000, when Putin came to power, and relations with Georgi became frosty, but even before then, when the Politburo in Moscow deliberately encouraged and funded counter-nationalist movements, as they saw Communist power slip away. Its true that those diehards viewed the West with disdain and are contemptuous of democracy, in the same way Hitler was.

 

So Obama's inaction in 2014 confirmed to Putin what he saw from President Bush in 2008, over Georgia, where he allowed the Russian Army to seize US property without a protest. Putin is incapable of civilised behaviour. He is an anti-democrat, so he has no understanding or empatthy with Western liberal democracies. He is so imbided with Bolshevik brainwashing, he sees everything as a threat to the Party, even though the Party has long gone.

 

A normal national leader would not see a country joining the EU as some sort of existensial threat. A normal leader sees that as an economic opportunity.

 

Russia is a country with a small penis that easily shrivels. eg. Pristina Airport.

 

Western leaders have made mistakes, but the fault has always been with Putin, and his geopolitical illiteracy. To blame the West for the War is to blame the young girl who was gang raped for walking home, or the young boy abused by a pedophile for joining the Scouts.

 

Hitler caused WW2. Putin caused WW3.

Thanks for the history lesson; I'm get back to it in time... then again...

1 hour ago, BLMFem said:

Looking forward to when Putin is no longer among us. Then there will be at least a chance of a regime change in Russia. Of course, there is always the chance of a civil war. If that happens and everything falls apart over there the West must act quick and put the (former) country under administration for the foreseeable future, like what was done with Germany after WW2.

We can't have warlords with nukes.

You feel so strongly.....why don't you put your money where you mouth is, join problemfarang on the front lines, do you bit in real life, give

pesky pith  what for....rather than cowering behind your laptop

4 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

I think that thinking has always influenced Western kids gloves policy towards Russia; better the devil you know than not. We don't really want Putin's government to collapse.

 

But to think we are worried about a sudden failure of the Russian government is in itself scary.

 

I'd like to think if there was some terrible calamity that befell the US or UK governments that we have the checks and balances  in place to ensure Brig. General Jack D. Ripper is just a movie fiction. We probably know that supposed Israeli and South African capabilities remains just a paper capability. We are probably nervous about Pakistan. At the end of the Cold War there was no doubt extensive exchange of notes between Russian and their NATO counterparts.

 

Are we worried about the Russian lack of checks and balances we are prepared to allow a war of conquest to occur because the alternative is much worse. In 1983, the NATO exercise, Able Archer, nearly caused a pre-emptive Soviet attack, except for the bravery of a Russian colonel in refusing an order.

I believe Russia is inherently unstable. Except for a few years Russia has always been under tight control by strongmen, and if you remove the dictator the whole place may fall apart, and very likely violently.

1 minute ago, BLMFem said:

I believe Russia is inherently unstable. Except for a few years Russia has always been under tight control by strongmen, and if you remove the dictator the whole place may fall apart, and very likely violently.

It's too big.

It could split up. 

6 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

I believe Russia is inherently unstable. Except for a few years Russia has always been under tight control by strongmen, and if you remove the dictator the whole place may fall apart, and very likely violently.

 

I agree. Could go the way of Yugoslavia.

 

 

Just now, Jingthing said:

It's too big.

It could split up. 

That's always a possibility. Wouldn't it be wonderfully ironic if the end result of this expansionist war the Putin started large parts of Russia was given back to it's rightful owners.

Ukraine, Finland, Poland, Georgia, Moldova, Japan all have rightful claims to large territories.

10 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

That's always a possibility. Wouldn't it be wonderfully ironic if the end result of this expansionist war the Putin started large parts of Russia was given back to it's rightful owners.

Ukraine, Finland, Poland, Georgia, Moldova, Japan all have rightful claims to large territories.

Don't forget China. They haven't. 

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Don't forget China. They haven't. 

True. If it all falls apart they'll be heading to Manchuria faster than you can say Peking Duck.

11 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Biden & blinken refused to meet Putin for any talks, Clinton said  inbthe beginning that the war should be dragged out as long as possible to destroy Russias economy.

You're all doing the job for the western propaganda machine, how many time were you told Russia was done, they'd lost, banckrupted etc etc... yet that's totally  contradicted when saying Putin is going to invade the EU.

 

The refusal to meet with Putin until he agreed to a ceasefire and to meaningful peace  negotiations was reasonable.

Mr. Trump has come to the same conclusion, and is finally seeing that Putin has no interest in peace. 

Russia will not be happy until it destroys Ukraine and is terrorizing the EU into submission.

For those that deny the NATO expansion and ignoring Putins requests.... because the MSM told them....

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGqQzlKpPPv/?igsh=bDYxMnQ1aXhydjR1

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

For those that deny the NATO expansion and ignoring Putins requests.... because the MSM told them....

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGqQzlKpPPv/?igsh=bDYxMnQ1aXhydjR1

Some random Instagram account owned by some fringe loony.

Garbage.

17 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Did you see Ukraine sent swarms of drones to Putins helicopter?

and you got that from RT news, not any other source or do you have one, sadly you don't as you never do and yet they let you post

9 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

and you got that from RT news, not any other source or do you have one, sadly you don't as you never do and yet they let you post

Reuters actually, you can Google it for yourself and choose which even outlet you want, those backing want war, not peace.

You keep on supporting it from the safety of your laptop. The worst type of person there is is someone that cheers on others dying.

22 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Reuters actually, you can Google it for yourself and choose which even outlet you want, those backing want war, not peace.

You keep on supporting it from the safety of your laptop. The worst type of person there is is someone that cheers on others dying.

Which you do by supporting Putin.

2 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Some random Instagram account owned by some fringe loony.

Garbage.

The guy speaking at the beginning is Jens stoltenberg, the previous head of NATO. Perhaps you didnt know that.

That is what he said at a NATO meeting regarding Ukraine in late 2022 (not sure on date) 

You can find it on Google and choose an outlet that suits you.

You won't though

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Out come the new war hawks. The EU are purposely sabotaging the negotiation by backing zelensky

tell me something, do they,  whoever is or wherever you are, let you run free on the streets or do you have a monitoring  ankle bracelet, it appears, you have all the symptoms of a deranged mind

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

The guy speaking at the beginning is Jens stoltenberg, the previous head of NATO. Perhaps you didnt know that.

That is what he said at a NATO meeting regarding Ukraine in late 2022 (not sure on date) 

You can find it on Google and choose an outlet that suits you.

You won't though

you make a claim you are to provide supporting data but "again" somehow you are getting away with it and no providing any supporting data to any of your BS claims, you are just ranting and trolling

Russian economy going into hypothermia it’s so bad

just look at the rant this lunatic had during a memorial ... if anybody had doubts about his state of mind, this will clear any doubts, the guy is unfitted for any job, his only concern is revenge, not running the country but revenge and playing golf at tax payers expenses. If he spent half of the time he spent ranting into doing some positive work for the country, the USA would be doing  not bad but instead he prefers the negativity, he will not have a happy death

 

'Deranged Lunatic': Critics Blast Trump After 'Utterly Unfit' Holiday Rant

 

https://au.news.yahoo.com/deranged-lunatic-critics-blast-trump-062808296.html

 

 

18 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

you make a claim you are to provide supporting data but "again" somehow you are getting away with it and no providing any supporting data to any of your BS claims, you are just ranting and trolling

I gave a link and the blm clown didnt want to accept it. Its Jens stoltenberg speaking,the head of NATO,  talking about how they ignored Putins concerns on NATO expansion to his border.

Deny it all you want but that is the facts laid out clear.

All those here than champion the war on shoukd get over there and do their part instead of being a stereotypical keyboard warrior here.

@frank83628 why would the western world or Ukraine kow tow to Putins concerns? He is not the all mighty although you seem to think he is.

14 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

@frank83628 why would the western world or Ukraine kow tow to Putins concerns? He is not the all mighty although you seem to think he is.

What has Ukraine got to do with the west.. more specifically the USA? Could it be the minerals in the ground? It certainly isn't the anything to do with the people of Ukraine 

On 5/25/2025 at 7:32 PM, Mike_Hunt said:

The unarmed coup.  LOL....

Possibly you do not know that coups come in many shapes n sizes, many non-violent.

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

What has Ukraine got to do with the west.. more specifically the USA? Could it be the minerals in the ground? It certainly isn't the anything to do with the people of Ukraine 

100% about the people. Only one person is trolling for resources. Keep Ukraine in the western fold means the minerals come thru regular trade. Oh yeah, that same person doesn't like regular trade either 😂😂