Tourism in Thailand is finished.

[Gottfrid]

8 minutes ago, JackGats said:

Sniffling heroin hey? (sniffling mind you, not sniffing). I see you're an expert in drugs and harm reduction.

I don´t think that was very relevant. Let´s make it easier just for you. You put it up your god damn nose. Otherwise, it´s exactly like I wrote.

[BritManToo]

13 minutes ago, JackGats said:

Sniffling heroin hey? (sniffling mind you, not sniffing). I see you're an expert in drugs and harm reduction.

Thought you injected or smoked heroin.

I never knew anyone that snorted it.

[JAG]

20 minutes ago, JackGats said:

I don't think tourism in TH is finished. All that is needed is international flights and hotels. To the new world middle-class any destination is ok, for example Pattaya as a family beach destination. 

 

It's a pity some country doesn't run following live experiment:

 

1) Set up a huge landfill as destination.

2) Build ramschackle woodplank hotels around the landfill.

3) Build an airstrip nearby with a few charter flights from the Indian Subcontinent.

4) Count the families who come for a holiday on and around the landfill.

Pattaya:

Huge Landfill (effectively) - check.

Ramshackle hotels - check.

Airstrip nearbye with charter flights from the Indian Subcontinent - check.

 

We're in business!

 

[Stocky]

8 hours ago, JAG said:

I joined this forum 22 years ago (goodness me am I old and smelly!)

 

The first post I read was to the effect that tourism was dead in Thailand. The second one was complaining that Pattaya was not a patch on what it used to be!

Only 21 years but I have similar recollections of 'another nail' or 'the final nail' in the coffin of tourism in Thailand - the coffin's more nails than a hardware shop and still going

[spidermike007]

8 hours ago, Cornish Pasty said:

This time it's different.

 

When was the last time you ventured out on to the streets in a tourist ghetto?

Just look at the numbers for this quarter....

 

The attitude of the locals stinks, the way they try and fleece the foreigner is atrocious and I for one hope they never return.

 

Mark.

I would venture to guess that you've spent most of your time in Pattaya or Phuket. I travel around Thailand and I like the attitude of the locals. I think most Thai people are lovely and I absolutely love this place.

I love everyday I spend in Thailand, things have changed but Thailand is still fantastic on so many levels. 

[mikebike]

9 hours ago, Cornish Pasty said:

Is it any wonder that tourists are now opting for safer, cleaner, cheaper and friendlier destinations? 

So, which tourist mecca is picking up the slack? Or is it more like peeps are staying closer to home as the friendliness of the entire world seems to be decreasing? 🤔🤷 Seems to me that MOST tourist destinations are hurting.

[DezLez]

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I would venture to guess that you've spent most of your time in Pattaya or Phuket. 

You do realize that you are "talking" to Bob etc!

[KhunLA]

To the title ...

... heard the same ever since I've been here.   Geez, that's knocking on 25 yrs.  Damn that was fast 😎

[Ralf001]

9 hours ago, Cornish Pasty said:

Is it any wonder, with all the constant flip flopping on visas, taxes, dual pricing, airport tax, scamming locals, earth-quakes, constant violence on social media & the strong baht - that tourists are now opting for safer, cleaner, cheaper and friendlier destinations? 

 

Thailand lost it's smile decades ago, and if they are still smiling, one can't even tell because of the masks they are still wearing...

 

Mark.

Really Bob, again.

 

Surely you have a new dead horse to flog.

[connda]

"

Is it any wonder, with all the constant flip flopping on visas, taxes, dual pricing, airport tax, scamming locals, earth-quakes, constant violence on social media & the strong baht - that tourists are now opting for safer, cleaner, cheaper and friendlier destinations? 

 

Thailand lost it's smile decades ago, and if they are still smiling, one can't even tell because of the masks they are still wearing...

 

Mark."

bob

There!  Fixed it! 

[zz4096]

6 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

You are living in a big illusion. Sure, most people do not cause problem while stoned. Same as most people do not cause problem while drunk on alcohol, sniffing heroin and so on....

However, all substances that alters the brain and mind will affect different people in different way, so it totally possible to cause problem when you are stoned. Next time, please educate yourself a little bit before posting nonsense.

 

Gawd you're such a bore. At least Bob is mildly amusing, for all his flaws.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

I'll give you the exchange rate. That sucks as an Australian.  

[sambum]

10 hours ago, henryford1958 said:

The rot started when they legalized weed. Now Thailand attracts the young yobs who just want to get stoned and cause trouble. Hence the number of "influencers" getting busted trying to smuggle weed into the UK. Quality tourists don't want any part of that.

 

Rubbish! Another poster uneducated in the effects of marijuana. And a strange use of the word "influencer", or is that your buzz word of the month?

[sambum]

2 hours ago, JackGats said:

I don't think tourism in TH is finished. All that is needed is international flights and hotels. To the new world middle-class any destination is ok, for example Pattaya as a family beach destination. 

 

It's a pity some country doesn't run following live experiment:

 

1) Set up a huge landfill as destination.

2) Build ramschackle woodplank hotels around the landfill.

3) Build an airstrip nearby with a few charter flights from the Indian Subcontinent.

4) Count the families who come for a holiday on and around the landfill.

 

 "..........for example Pattaya as a family beach destination."

 

🤣 

[papa al]

8 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

it totally possible to cause problem when you are stoned.

its possible to get smashed by a meteor

[SAFETY FIRST]

11 hours ago, Cornish Pasty said:

that tourists are now opting for safer, cleaner, cheaper and friendlier destinations? 

Sadly the ones with mental illness, the nasty, disrespectful, tourists are still arriving. 

 

[DezLez]

1 hour ago, zz4096 said:

At least Bob is mildly amusing, for all his flaws.

It is Bob but it is obvious he is getting past his post by date!

[JoseThailand]

11 hours ago, Cornish Pasty said:

tourists are now opting for safer, cleaner, cheaper and friendlier destinations? 

 

Let them all go to Vietnam! 

 

How great that would be!

[zz4096]

9 minutes ago, DezLez said:

It is Bob but it is obvious he is getting past his post by date!

 

He's lost his spark, and I use that term loosely. AseanNow must have cut his monthly stipend after Cheesy Dan sold it to The Thaiger. I'd be miserable too if they cut my Leo ration in half.

[jas007]

8 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

You are living in a big illusion. Sure, most people do not cause problem while stoned. Same as most people do not cause problem while drunk on alcohol, sniffing heroin and so on....

However, all substances that alters the brain and mind will affect different people in different way, so it totally possible to cause problem when you are stoned. Next time, please educate yourself a little bit before posting nonsense.

I can only assume you've never been stoned. No one causes trouble when they're stoned, at least any kind of serious, violent trouble. Maybe they drive slowly. They might possibly observe the real speed limit. Or maybe they ruin their health by eating too much junk food.  Or, maybe they end up lost, in the wrong place at the wrong time.  

 

I could tell you a few stories, but I'm not sure you'd believe them.  

[jas007]

8 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

You are living in a big illusion. Sure, most people do not cause problem while stoned. Same as most people do not cause problem while drunk on alcohol, sniffing heroin and so on....

However, all substances that alters the brain and mind will affect different people in different way, so it totally possible to cause problem when you are stoned. Next time, please educate yourself a little bit before posting nonsense.

I can only assume you've never been stoned. No one causes trouble when they're stoned, at least any kind of serious, violent trouble. Maybe they drive slowly. They might possibly observe the real speed limit. Or maybe they ruin their health by eating too much junk food.  Or, maybe they end up lost, in the wrong place at the wrong time.  

 

I could tell you a few stories, but I'm not sure you'd believe them.  

[EVENKEEL]

4 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

I don´t think that was very relevant. Let´s make it easier just for you. You put it up your god damn nose. Otherwise, it´s exactly like I wrote.

It's called snorting. 

[ravip]

Tourism in Thailand is finished.

 

For a moment,  I thought I was in the Worst Joke thread 😆 

[JackGats]

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Thought you injected or smoked heroin.

I never knew anyone that snorted it.

Acutally, you can also snort it, smoke it, or even plug it (booty bumping). Even with these gentler methods, overdoses are possible.

 

The media like to project the bogeyman image of the syringe-wielding heroin user.

[pomchop]

Back in usa at the moment in one of the most expensive cities.  Always interesting to read the posts complaining about how expensive pattaya now is....LOL....you want to see expensive go to a bar a restaurant or a grocery store in a big american beach resort town and it will quickly open your eyes as to how inexpensive pattaya is in terms of hotels, transport, beers/bars. food, and entertainment.

 

I can go into supermarket here and walk around looking at prices and actually sort of bust out laughing at many of the prices.  Same with bars and restaurants.  Are there some expensive prices in Pattaya...yes for sure if you insist on buying imported stuff or eat western foods?  Sure there are.  But the cost of living in a nice condo, eating at all kinds of good restaurants with local foods and being able to have a nice cold beer for a couple of dollars then hop on a 10 baht transport ?  No comparison at all.  Pattaya is still an inexpensive place IF you are not a two week millionaire type....and like most anywhere if you want to get the attention and affection of some hot young babe it is going to cost you a lot generally but even that is cheaper than a hot babe in USA.

 

Pattaya expensive?  It's all relative but in my world it is a great bargain.

[DonniePeverley]

Cheap mass tourism is wrecking it. 

 

The decision to allow Indians (and other nationalities with extreme low GDP per person) without any forms of checks and balances with a a visa has to be the most wreckless decision made in Thailand's history. 

 

It's turned away quality tourism. 

 

[BritManToo]

8 hours ago, JackGats said:

Acutally, you can also snort it, smoke it, or even plug it (booty bumping). Even with these gentler methods, overdoses are possible.

 

The media like to project the bogeyman image of the syringe-wielding heroin user.

But I only knew people (all teen girls) that smoked or injected.

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

But I only knew people (all teen girls) that smoked or injected.

We were late teens, and injected, but knew a few in the 20s to 30s, that were amazingly stupid also.

 

That tops my list of 'Dumbest' things ever done, and took only once to realize it.  How anyone could do it a 2nd time really speaks to their lack of rational thinking and intelligence.

 

The big failure of pushing things like 'Reefer Madness' in HS as some sort of documentary.   Silly lies like that, kind of turns kids off of believing any creditable warnings of harder drugs.

 

Next would be drunk driving, and thankfully, never hurt anyone, or self, while doing.  Realized early on how stupid that was, thankfully.    Hard to believe people still do it today, as much as it is demonized in the news.  Early 70s, not so much, unfortunately.

 

Loss a few friends to drunk driving, that barely made 20 yrs old, so an easy wake up call.  Alcohol, the entry drug of choice, for most people, really does ruin so many lives.

 

On topic ... the demographic of younger and some middle aged tourist will, has, definitely changed.   Though they aren't the problem tourist.  Pot heads are a calm lot.   Drunks are the Hellraiser.

 

Decriminalization is definitely a motivational factor for visiting, as one of the main reasons I went to Amsterdam, aside from the museums.   Damn you Van Halen 

[worgeordie]

23 hours ago, Cornish Pasty said:

This time it's different.

 

When was the last time you ventured out on to the streets in a tourist ghetto?

Just look at the numbers for this quarter....

 

The attitude of the locals stinks, the way they try and fleece the foreigner is atrocious and I for one hope they never return.

 

Mark.

You better go home quickly , and never venture out in to the World again ,

I have lived a long time here,and in that time there were Terrorist attacks in

Bangkok and around the Country, tsunami's ,earthquake's ,Covid ,but

Thailand tourist industry always pulled through ,which is why I call it,

Teflon Thailand ....  

 

regards Worgeordie

[Quentin Zen]

In San Fran I just spent $35 USD on a plate of spaghetti.   Tip is 20% so $42.   

 

China is everything here.  Look at the tourist numbers.   We need to read Chinese and figure it out.  China is the head, the body, the tail, and the white expat falang is simply the gun on the bottom on a worn-out sole from someone speaking Chinese.

 

The Chinese control tourism.  We just complain.