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As Trump shuts out migrants, Spain opens its doors and fuels economic growth

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On 6/23/2025 at 9:50 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Be mindful of the outcome for the U.S. of what you're advocating:

 

As the above report recounts regarding Spain's opposite approach:

 

"No policy has been as transformative to Spanish society as the stance on immigration, which officials and economists say is helping to reverse population decline and boost social welfare funding at a moment when baby boomers are retiring.

 

Immigration is also helping drive the strongest period of economic growth since Spain’s construction boom in the mid-2000s. Between 2022 and 2024, average GDP per capita increased 2.9 percent — the strongest of the E.U.’s four largest economies."

 

https://archive.ph/4FJMP

 

What you keep purposely omitting from your comments is 'legal or illegal', you are being purposely dishonest 

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    Why, are the powers that be so intent to make the US an unlikable, closed ecosystem? We need the rest of the world and they need us. People in America are smart. So how is anyone okay with masked offi

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5 hours ago, tai4de2 said:

Wrong. I voted for this. A lot of us did.

 

Round up and deport all illegals. Families are welcome to accompany their illegal members back to wherever they came from. That's not our problem, it's a problem entirely of the illegals' own making. Leftists' attempts at emotional blackmail don't work any more.

 

And? The USA does not owe a single person on the planet citizenship. Too bad. Not our problem.

And the only footage the lying leftist media (double redundant) will be of crying mothers and kids, There will not be any footage on CNN or MSNBC of gang members being rounded up or the destruction they do. 

6 hours ago, frank83628 said:

700,000 in 4 years, not 11 million, and legal, not illegal, massive difference

Most of them enter legally as they don't need an visa, and then work illegally (until there's a regularisation campaign decided by the government). 

 

Considering that the population of the U.S. is 7 times higher than Spain, and also that the 700,000 number is only the number of immigrants which have been regularised (not those who haven't been yet), the percentage is not so far from the U.S. with 8 million.

1 hour ago, candide said:

Most of them enter legally as they don't need an visa, and then work illegally (until there's a regularisation campaign decided by the government). 

 

Considering that the population of the U.S. is 7 times higher than Spain, and also that the 700,000 number is only the number of immigrants which have been regularised (not those who haven't been yet), the percentage is not so far from the U.S. with 8 million.

So...you are on favour of illegal migrants and them working illegally too.

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7 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Nah, legal USA citizens are being rounded up and kept in jail for days without seeing a lawyer or getting any explanation. Land of the Free, my arse: Army veteran and US citizen arrested in California immigration raid warns it could happen to anyone

 

We only get one side of the story.  That's the way narrative-supporting MSM hit pieces work.  You get a clickybaity headline followed by unsupported claims in the article, or factoids hidden at the bottom that contradict the headline.

 

He likely had insufficient identification on him, if any, refused to identify himself and resisted arrest.

 

What are the odds during the encounter he screamed "I know my rights!"

1 hour ago, NoDisplayName said:

He likely had insufficient identification on him, if any, refused to identify himself and resisted arrest.

Now you are making things up. 

16 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Now you are making things up. 

 

Thank you.  

I am now become a "journalist."

 

But follow the links in the article.

 

Four U.S. citizens were arrested during the raids for allegedly “assaulting or resisting officers,” according to DHS

 

They [the family] said Retes was trying to drive away during the clashes between protesters and agents when an officer stopped him, broke his car window and shot pepper spray before dragging him out of his car and arresting him.

 

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-raids-marijuana-farm-southern-california-arrests-ead862824a6e994fdfd5297aa1cd6c79

 

Why would the security guard be leaving at just that very moment?  Why would the security guard refuse lawful orders?

 

And why is our intrepid "journalist" trying to imply that the hero was arrested as an illegal when the charges will be resisting arrest and possibly assault on LEO?

 

Army veteran and US citizen arrested in California immigration raid warns it could happen to anyone

 

 

3 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Thank you.

 

I am now become a "journalist."

Ostrich more likely, don't want to see what happens.

https://amp.elmundo.es/espana/encuestas/2025/07/13/6873a373e4d4d88b1d8b4585.html

If you don't read Spanish , right click in your browser and translate.

 

70% of Spaniards support deportations of illegal migrants

PP voters, with 92%, and PSOE voters, with 57%, are in favour of the controversial measure championed by Vox. The faithful of Sumar reject it by a majority

 

So another government that does the opposite of what their citizens want.

And yes this thread is about legal immigration , but that is only a small part compared to the illegals.

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