5 minutes ago, MarkBR said:

Pathogens cause disease - been known for a long long time.  Fiirst vaccine against pathogen was done by Edward Jenner using cowpox (relatively harmless) to protect against Smallpox (often lethal) in 1796.

Don't agree with you Sir.

 

Are there any experiments that show the isolation of a virus, and show it can cause disease?

 

If you do some research you might think differently.

18 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

So Sir; quoting from a best selling book that a Doctor has researched for 5 years and documented 200+ human transmission experiments is just waffle is it?

 

 ''The claim that colds and flu are contagious, may be one of the greatest ever blunders of medical science. Prepare to be shocked as this book brings to life the buried data that can no longer be ignored.''

 

None so blind as will not see.

and no book as worthless as one that respected publishers won't touch.... only way to sell is to self-publish.  Unfortunately ... many sellers only care about the $$.... wait a minute.... isn't that what you suspect drives the pharmaceutical industry????

 

How does it become an Amazon top seller?  Clickbait and all the wackos know it's the only source to buy because no reputable seller will touch it.  Barnes and Noble know better than to sell it.

3 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

and no book as worthless as one that respected publishers won't touch.... only way to sell is to self-publish.  Unfortunately ... many sellers only care about the $$.... wait a minute.... isn't that what you suspect drives the pharmaceutical industry????

You are backing a loser. I think you should quit this nonsense.

 

Dr Roytas' book examines at least 20 US Navy medical experiments. They are a matter of record.

 

Nature has all the answers.

On 7/6/2025 at 6:37 PM, Stiddle Mump said:

Dr Roytas' book 'Can You Catch a Cold

 

Can You Catch a Cold? Has not been recognized or debated in a single reputable medical or academic venue.

 

Its support comes from extremist, alternative-health proponents, not mainstream experts.

 

The central premise—terrain theory—contradicts established infectious disease science, which confirms that pathogens like viruses and bacteria causally drive illnesses.

 

 

 

 

Koch’s Postulates

 (1880s)

 

Robert Koch formulated criteria that link a microbe to a disease:

The microbe must be found in all cases of the disease.

It must be isolated and grown in pure culture.

It must cause the disease when introduced to a healthy host.

It must be re-isolated from the newly infected host.

 

 

Animal Challenge Studies

 

For over a century, scientists have isolated bacteria/viruses from sick people, infected healthy animals under controlled conditions, and reproduced the same disease.

 

Influenza: In 1933, British researchers (Smith, Andrewes, Laidlaw) isolated the influenza virus and transmitted it to ferrets, showing reproducibility.

 

COVID-19: In 2020, SARS-CoV-2 was isolated and shown to infect human cells and animal models (ferrets, hamsters, macaques), causing identical respiratory disease.

 

 

In Vitro Cell Culture + Electron Microscopy

 

Viruses like measles, polio, HIV, COVID-19 have all been:

Isolated

Cultured in cells

Imaged via electron microscopy

Sequenced genetically

 

Polio virus was first cultured in human cells by Enders, Weller & Robbins in 1949 — winning the Nobel Prize in 1954.

 

COVID-19 virus was visualized and sequenced within weeks in January 2020 — genome published publicly.

 

PCR and whole-genome sequencing allow scientists to track pathogens during outbreaks (e.g., Ebola, SARS-CoV-2, H5N1).

These tools link specific microbes to clinical cases of disease across millions of patients.

 

 

Vaccines only work if the germ they target causes disease.

 

Polio, measles, rubella, smallpox, diphtheria, COVID-19 — all controlled or eradicated by vaccines that target specific viruses/bacteria.

 

 

22 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

The central premise—terrain theory—contradicts established infectious disease science, which confirms that pathogens like viruses and bacteria causally drive illnesses.

You are completely missing the point of the book Sir. You have googled 'can you catch a cold' and are simply copying and pasting.

 

The book examines experiments to establish pathogenicity, or otherwise, down the decades.

 

As has been posted earlier; over 20 such sturdies were done, and well documented I must add, by the US Navy. They are a matter of record.

 

Read the book why don't you.

 

""An incredible, thorough exploration of history that will make you question everything you thought you knew about infectious diseases, health, and the human condition. This well-researched book, with over 1,000 references, provides valuable insights to help piece together the intricate puzzle of why we experience illness. A paradigm-shattering, must-read for those trying to determine the truth and acquire a healthier and happier life!""

 

 

On 6/26/2025 at 5:20 PM, Stiddle Mump said:

In my last appearance on a stage (Willesden, Nth Wst London)  in the late 1990s I highlighted the adjuvants that are in vaxxes. A well know doctor was also giving his opinions.

 

TBH, as mush as I thought it was bad medicine, I put the whole medical thing aside and got on with life. Both in England and from 07 in Thailand. Didn't pick up the vaxx baton again until late 2019, when I heard that an epidemic was about to be unleashed on the gullible world. Have not passed it on since.

 

Autism!! What is it and how do kids get it? My take it is a relatively new sickness. Mark Blaxill and San Olmsted co-wrote: The Age of Autism: Mercury, medicine, and a Man-Made Epidemic.**

 

That research made a lot of sense, but I'll reserve judgement.

 

** ref:  www.CanYouCatchaCold.com

 

 

You again?!

I proved you already that you're wrong.

Why you start all this nonsense again?

Is it SADO-MASO related? ???😳

On 6/27/2025 at 11:16 AM, Photoguy21 said:

Interesting. The CDC run by people like Fauchi and others of similar mind set.

Yes, and they are right! Not you!

9 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

You are completely missing the point of the book Sir. You have googled 'can you catch a cold' and are simply copying and pasting.

 

The book examines experiments to establish pathogenicity, or otherwise, down the decades.

 

As has been posted earlier; over 20 such sturdies were done, and well documented I must add, by the US Navy. They are a matter of record.

 

Read the book why don't you.

 

""An incredible, thorough exploration of history that will make you question everything you thought you knew about infectious diseases, health, and the human condition. This well-researched book, with over 1,000 references, provides valuable insights to help piece together the intricate puzzle of why we experience illness. A paradigm-shattering, must-read for those trying to determine the truth and acquire a healthier and happier life!""

 

 

Read the Bible and give peace

25 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

You again?!

I proved you already that you're wrong.

Why you start all this nonsense again?

Is it SADO-MASO related? ???😳

Afraid so. I detect a touch of rudeness in your post Sir. Not to worry. Read Dr Roytas book and report back.

 

Nature has the answers.

9 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Read the Bible and give peace

There is so much in the bible that we don't fully understand Sir.

 

How many of us go through life claiming we know something without having ever given it any critical thought?

 

Proverbs 18:3 says, ‘If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame’.

 

Daniel Roytas set aside his ‘common knowledge’ to truly explore the premises and history surrounding contagion, and came out with a completely new outlook on the subject. Anyone interested in developing a richer understanding of this topic owes it to themselves to read this book.

36 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Viruses like measles, polio, HIV, COVID-19 have all been: Isolated

Oh no they have not. Porkies all around.

Kids are born with autism. They don't catch it later in life. If autism could be brought on by vaccines, then adults could develop autism at 40.

33 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Kids are born with autism. They don't catch it later in life. If autism could be brought on by vaccines, then adults could develop autism at 40.

Any paper that points to that Sir?

 

If that were so, the parents would show different characteristics from, say 70 years ago, til now. Interesting. I'll have a read up.

38 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Kids are born with autism. They don't catch it later in life. If autism could be brought on by vaccines, then adults could develop autism at 40.

 

 

Think you are the right lines it seems.....

 

1. Autism begins in the brain during prenatal development

Brain imaging and post-mortem studies show differences in brain structure and connectivity in autistic individuals that likely arise during fetal development.

Some studies (e.g., Courchesne et al., 2011) suggest excess neurons in the prefrontal cortex of autistic children, which begin forming in the womb.

 

 

2. Strong genetic component

Autism has a high heritability: up to 80–90% of the risk is genetic.

Over 100 genes are associated with autism—some rare and others common.

Conditions like fragile X syndrome or tuberous sclerosis have strong links to ASD and are present at birth.

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Any paper that points to that Sir?

 

If that were so, the parents would show different characteristics from, say 70 years ago, til now. Interesting. I'll have a read up.

Give it up 

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

For over a century, scientists have isolated bacteria/viruses from sick people, infected healthy animals under controlled conditions, and reproduced the same disease.

 

Influenza: In 1933, British researchers (Smith, Andrewes, Laidlaw) isolated the influenza virus and transmitted it to ferrets, showing reproducibility.

 

COVID-19: In 2020, SARS-CoV-2 was isolated and shown to infect human cells and animal models (ferrets, hamsters, macaques), causing identical respiratory disease.

The above simply is not true.

 

Isolation, as is purification, is quite specific word. There is no isolation what-so-ever in the two above examples. The nearest any white-coat has come to isolating a virus was Dr Enders in 1954. If you read through the methodology section of his paper, you will see that the 'isolation' he speaks of is nothing of the sort. But that experiment led the way for virologists ever since in lab procedures to find viruses.

 

Nature is everything. We are nature.

17 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Give it up 

As long as AN member continue to post untruths, links to fraudulent papers and utter nonsense. I'll respond.

20 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Think you are the right lines it seems.....

 

1. Autism begins in the brain during prenatal development

Brain imaging and post-mortem studies show differences in brain structure and connectivity in autistic individuals that likely arise during fetal development.

Some studies (e.g., Courchesne et al., 2011) suggest excess neurons in the prefrontal cortex of autistic children, which begin forming in the womb.

 

 

2. Strong genetic component

Autism has a high heritability: up to 80–90% of the risk is genetic.

Over 100 genes are associated with autism—some rare and others common.

Conditions like fragile X syndrome or tuberous sclerosis have strong links to ASD and are present at birth.

There are many cases where the parents have noticed a steep decline in their kids abilities. Can be evident after just a few hours after having a vaxx.

 

Are these parents wrong?

 

 

17 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

As long as AN member continue to post untruths, links to fraudulent papers and utter nonsense. I'll respond.

Lol, talking to yourself.

4 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

As long as AN member continue to post untruths, links to fraudulent papers and utter nonsense. I'll respond.

You're just an anti-vaxxer 

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

There is so much in the bible that we don't fully understand Sir.

 

How many of us go through life claiming we know something without having ever given it any critical thought?

 

Proverbs 18:3 says, ‘If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame’.

 

Daniel Roytas set aside his ‘common knowledge’ to truly explore the premises and history surrounding contagion, and came out with a completely new outlook on the subject. Anyone interested in developing a richer understanding of this topic owes it to themselves to read this book.

Blessed are those who do not see and yet believe

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Afraid so. I detect a touch of rudeness in your post Sir. Not to worry. Read Dr Roytas book and report back.

 

Nature has the answers.

Blessed are those who do not see and yet believe

1 hour ago, still kicking said:

You're just an anti-vaxxer 

Anti-vaxxer am I?

 

Bang on the money there Sir.

5 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Any paper that points to that Sir?

 

If that were so, the parents would show different characteristics from, say 70 years ago, til now. Interesting. I'll have a read up.

Yes.... I know.... you don't like any post 1880 medical thinking... but since the human genome has been documented, geneticists have found that 80% of autism is based on inherited factors.  It's not just one or two genes involved.  There are many factors at play.

4 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

There are many cases where the parents have noticed a steep decline in their kids abilities. Can be evident after just a few hours after having a vaxx.

 

Are these parents wrong?

 

Your parents probably had high hopes for you.  Boy.... were they wrong.

14 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Yes.... I know.... you don't like any post 1880 medical thinking... but since the human genome has been documented, geneticists have found that 80% of autism is based on inherited factors.  It's not just one or two genes involved.  There are many factors at play.

Look at the data. By 2035 one in two US male lids could ne autistic.

 

Nothing to do with genes IMO. But, I'd not rule out that medication of the parents, especially the mum, could be eventful.

13 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Your parents probably had high hopes for you.  Boy.... were they wrong.

Fool!

5 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

There are many cases where the parents have noticed a steep decline in their kids abilities. Can be evident after just a few hours after having a vaxx.

 

Are these parents wrong?

 

 

Depends. Do you mean that kids born with autism may get worse over time? Maybe. 

5 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Any paper that points to that Sir?

 

If that were so, the parents would show different characteristics from, say 70 years ago, til now. Interesting. I'll have a read up.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/autism/what-is-autism/#:~:text=It's something you're born,treatments or a "cure".

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/autism

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/autism-spectrum-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20352928

https://www.crossrivertherapy.com/autism/is-it-genetic

 

12 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Any paper that points to that Sir?

 

If that were so, the parents would show different characteristics from, say 70 years ago, til now. Interesting. I'll have a read up.

just more evidence how severely siloed you are... LOL