BBC in Trouble again.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said:

The only part I disagree with is the reference to a "two-tier justice" system.  Each case should be treated on its merits.  I will have no objection if action is taken against the idiot pop star by the police/CPS, but the case is entirely different to Ms Connolly's.

He is guilty as sin, witnessed by hundreds of thousands of people and still on video now. He broke the law, he needs justice dealt out as stated by Chris Philp

[brewsterbudgen]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

He is guilty as sin, witnessed by hundreds of thousands of people and still on video now. He broke the law, he needs justice dealt out as stated by Chris Philp

As I understand it, the police are investigating.  I'm sure they will be taking the Shadow Home Secretary's views into account, as well as every other politician, including the Prime Minister, who has commented.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, brewsterbudgen said:

As I understand it, the police are investigating.  I'm sure they will be taking the Shadow Home Secretary's views into account, as well as every other politician, including the Prime Minister, who has commented.

Why would the police take into account the Shadow Home Secretary's views. They have all the evidence right there in front of them. As you and just about anyone who is interested in this case. They just need to do their job, and not let it become another classic case of two tier justice

[brewsterbudgen]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why would the police take into account the Shadow Home Secretary's views. They have all the evidence right there in front of them. As you and just about anyone who is interested in this case. They just need to do their job, and not let it become another classic case of two tier justice

I was joking.  🙄 You keep bringing his views up as if they're of some importance!

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I was joking.  🙄 You keep bringing his views up as if they're of some importance!

You were displaying the lowest form of wit so I corrected form you back to the serious offense this is without the need for such deflection.

[brewsterbudgen]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You were displaying the lowest form of wit so I corrected form you back to the serious offense this is without the need for such deflection.

OK.  Thanks.

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

OK.  Thanks.

My pleasure:

 

The BBC’s broadcast of Glastonbury hate chanting is nothing short of criminal
This isn’t just for Ofcom any more. It’s time for the police

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/29/bbc-hate-chanting-glastonbury-death-idf-broadcast-ofcom/

[Nick Carter icp]

Looks like Bob Vylian wil have their USA visas revoked and so their USA tour will be cancelled 

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/exclusive-state-department-looks-to-revoke-visa-for-british-rappers-who-chanted-death-to-the-idf?topStoryPosition=undefined&author=Kassy+Akiva&category=News&elementPosition=0&row=1&rowHeadline=Top+Stories&rowType=Top+Stories&title=EXCLUSIVE%3A+State+Department+Looks+To+Revoke+Visa+For+British+Rappers+Who+Chanted+‘Death+To+The+IDF’

[BarraMarra]

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

No.  But the Shadow Home Secretary is (shamefully) playing politics. Please read the link I have now posted twice, that clearly shows why Connolly rightfully received the sentence she did.

Thats his opinion brewster i agee with him if calls out this digusting performance inciting the crowd and chanting death threats he needs areesting and charged for inciting racial hatred, an offence in the UK.

[BarraMarra]

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

The only part I disagree with is the reference to a "two-tier justice" system.  Each case should be treated on its merits.  I will have no objection if action is taken against the idiot pop star by the police/CPS, but the case is entirely different to Ms Connolly's.

What do you think The Americans would have done if a rapper stood on a US Stage and told the crowd to kill Republicans and kill Trump.

[NanLaew]

On 6/29/2025 at 2:15 PM, BarraMarra said:

The BBC are in hot water again after they allowed a punk band called Bob Vylan who chanted free Palastine and chanted Death to the IDF during there set at Glastonbury yesterday and the Irish rappers kneecap where one of there members is due in Court on Terroism charges.

 

 

 

The BBC 'allowed' what now?

 

Slow down, you're hyperventilating again.

[BarraMarra]

52 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Looks like Bob Vylian wil have their USA visas revoked and so their USA tour will be cancelled 

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/exclusive-state-department-looks-to-revoke-visa-for-british-rappers-who-chanted-death-to-the-idf?topStoryPosition=undefined&author=Kassy+Akiva&category=News&elementPosition=0&row=1&rowHeadline=Top+Stories&rowType=Top+Stories&title=EXCLUSIVE%3A+State+Department+Looks+To+Revoke+Visa+For+British+Rappers+Who+Chanted+‘Death+To+The+IDF’

Yes back to workingmens clubs if they book him Nick he will never set foot on another big venue.

[NanLaew]

On 6/29/2025 at 3:01 PM, proton said:

People have been imprisoned for years in the UK for saying less online, this guy needs to be arrested for incitement to violence and murder

 

I listened to a guy who was actually there and there was no incitement of anything. Some of the keffiyeh clique in the crowd nearest the stage shouted "Free, free Palestine" and the band's frontman simply repeated it. Then he asked them, 'What next?" before he shouted "Death, death to the IDF." A few of the same numties in the crowd reluctantly repeated him, but not the thousands of others who were at West Holts stage. Of course, he had the microphone and the PA system so that's the only voice that can be heard on Sky, and other news media outlets who are curiously playing the video with soundtrack totally uncensored on their newscasts... while the BBC isn't supposed to.

 

Of course the "Sorry I was distracted by foreign affairs" UK Prime Minister (now living in his own black hole, and not the one left by the Tories) has come out all indignant about this "appalling hate speech." This as his back benchers continue to plot against him on his benefits U-turn. Expect another straw-clutching reversal soon.

 

Queue the indignant (non-resident) British taxpayers, clutching their pearls, and demanding their sort of neutrality from the state broadcaster.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Looks like Bob Vylian wil have their USA visas revoked and so their USA tour will be cancelled 

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/exclusive-state-department-looks-to-revoke-visa-for-british-rappers-who-chanted-death-to-the-idf?topStoryPosition=undefined&author=Kassy+Akiva&category=News&elementPosition=0&row=1&rowHeadline=Top+Stories&rowType=Top+Stories&title=EXCLUSIVE%3A+State+Department+Looks+To+Revoke+Visa+For+British+Rappers+Who+Chanted+‘Death+To+The+IDF’

 

Otherwise known as, "The knee-jerk heard around the world."

[NanLaew]

21 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

No harm done? They called for the mass murder of the IDF. There are consequences for speech and the police are on it now.

 

Yes, the same police that were assaulted and injured by restive, drunk and ignorant white folks who threatened to burn down a building that had non-white people in it.

 

And some complain about two-tier policing?

 

Insert roll-eyes emoji here

[NanLaew]

20 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

The Glastonbury organisers should look closely who they are booking so have to answer to this as well as the BBC. Dont realy know these idiots who called to kill the IDF but i know the Irish Rappers Kneecap they constantly go agianst The UK and its politics one of them is already facing court fot terroist views. There set at Glastonbury was not filmed by the BBC but hace said they will show it on I-Player. The organisors of Glasonbury were asked to pull them but refused. One of them wore a palastinian keffiyeh in a foul mouthed set slamming labour they knew what this act was likely to incite the crowd yet let them perform.

 

Once again, the crowd were not incited.

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

I listened to a guy who was actually there and there was no incitement of anything.

 

   Eh ?

He began chanting "Death to the IDF" a few times , then passed the microphone to the crowd so they could join in with the chant and be heard .

   That is indeed inciting the crowd to participate 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Once again, the crowd were not incited.

Because all on spliffs...................

[Nick Carter icp]

28 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

I listened to a guy who was actually there and there was no incitement of anything. Some of the keffiyeh clique in the crowd nearest the stage shouted "Free, free Palestine" and the band's frontman simply repeated it.

 

   That is untrue .

Bob V did a 2 minute speech talking about Israel and inciting violence against Israel between songs .
   The crowd weren't saying anything .

Bob V then began chanting about Palestine and the crown joined in with the chant 

[JonnyF]

On 6/29/2025 at 3:01 PM, proton said:

People have been imprisoned for years in the UK for saying less online, this guy needs to be arrested for incitement to violence and murder

 

He won't be.

 

He's parrotting the establishment line. 

 

That's why the BBC let it run. 

 

If he'd said death to immigrants he'd be doing a 3 stretch already.

 

2 Tier Britain.  

[CG1 Blue]

Why aren't the lefty activists shouting death to Hamas?

Hamas have ruled over Palestinians with fear and brutality, they treat women like slaves, kill gays, caried out the 7th Oct atrocities, still holding hostages etc etc. 

 

Hamas clinging desperately to power is prolonging the war. 

 

Wake up lefties! 

[CG1 Blue]

17 hours ago, SamSaraburi said:

It was for supporting Hezbollah. Only 26 countries call it, in its entirety, a terrorist group. The UK is one. Ireland is not. 
 

Kneecap also urged people to kill their local (Tory) MP. Two Tier Keir seems happy to let that one go. 

 

Disgraceful considering what happened to David Amess and Jo Cox. 

 

Rap trio Kneecap will not be charged for allegedly calling on people to "kill your local MP", London's Metropolitan Police has said.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/0630/1521006-kneecap-terrorism-charge/

 

[josephbloggs]

22 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Kneecap also urged people to kill their local (Tory) MP. Two Tier Keir seems happy to let that one go. 

 

Disgraceful considering what happened to David Amess and Jo Cox. 

 

Rap trio Kneecap will not be charged for allegedly calling on people to "kill your local MP", London's Metropolitan Police has said.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/0630/1521006-kneecap-terrorism-charge/

 

What's it got to do with Keir Starmer? Did you reads the link you posted? You didn't did you, you just saw the headline.

They said it at a concert in 2023. It was only 17 months later that someone showed the video to police and made a complaint.  For summary offences charges must be brought within six months of the incident happening, not 17 months later.  Do you expect Keir Starmer to have the power of time travel? Can he tell the police to ignore the law on statutory time limits for summary offences? Why are you blaming him exactly? 

It was a nasty and stupid thing to say and they should have been reported earlier so they could have been charged under the Public Order Act. But they weren't, but yeah, Keir let it go, right?

 

[Nick Carter icp]

There  will be no Glastonbury festival next year

[NanLaew]

23 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

There  will be no Glastonbury festival next year

Yes Nick, right Nick.

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, NanLaew said:

Yes Nick, right Nick.

 

  A thumbs up to my post would have been adequate 

[Bday Prang]

23 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

a politically biased and enforced thought-control experiement media that people have no choice over other than to watch

What are you talking about? nobody is forced to watch the BBC  There are dozens of alternative channels available or one could just turn off

[Bkk Brian]

36 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

There  will be no Glastonbury festival next year

Pity that does not include the BBC. Ofcom are making an urgent investigation while the beeb are busy apologizing 

 

The BBC has said it regrets not pulling the live stream of Bob Vylan's "unacceptable" Glastonbury set - as Ofcom said the broadcaster has "questions to answer".

The corporation has faced mounting criticism over airing the performance on Glastonbury's West Holts Stage, during which the rap-punk duo's frontman Bobby Vylan led chants of: "Free, free Palestine" and: "Death, death to the IDF (Israel Defence Forces)".

Prime Minister Keir Starmer condemned the remarks, while festival organiser Emily Eavis said they "crossed a line" - and media watchdog Ofcom has now also released a statement raising concerns.

https://news.sky.com/story/very-concerned-ofcom-says-bbc-has-questions-to-answer-after-streaming-anti-idf-chants-at-glastonbury-13390388

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  A thumbs up to my post would have been adequate 

 

But that wouldn't suggest that you have NFI, would it Nick.

[Evil Penevil]

4 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

Once again, the crowd were not incited.

 

@NanLaew  What do you mean by "not incited?"  Are you saying the crowd wasn't incited because they didn't actually try to kill members of the IDF?  Or do you mean chanting, "Death, death to the IDF" isn't a crime under the U.K. law against incitement to violence?

 

It wasn't just the "Death" chants that crossed the line.  Bobby  Vylan (real name Pascal Robinson-Foster) made other potentially criminal comments to the crowd, including an antisemitic rant about a Jewish recording exec with whom Robinson-Foster once worked.  It's the totality of remarks at Glastonbury, not just the chant, that could be considered incitement.

 

And if a chant of "Death, death to the IDF" isn't incitement to violence, what would you call it?

 

 

On 6/29/2025 at 7:42 AM, frank83628 said:

So the BBC are in hot water because some band said some stuff during a live coverage.... i

 

On 6/29/2025 at 4:57 AM, Stocky said:

I'm not exactly sure what the BBC is supposed to do as it was a live broadcast.

 

The BBC could be in trouble because its producers didn't interrupt the livestream of Bob Vylan's performance when  Robinson-Foster began with his hate-rap against Israel and Jews.   The BBC and all other TV and radio broadcasters have an intentional "broadcast delay" or "deferred live" function to stop illegal or offensive content from reaching viewers/listeners.  For a broadcast from a live event like Glastonbury, the delay would be about 30 seconds.  That would give technicians time to delete the unwanted footage or audio track or to substitute it with other footage/audio.  

 

The BBC will indeed face questions as to why it didn't mute the "Death to Israel" chants.  It's my understanding that the BBC uses a broadcast delay to mute "death" chants during football matches.  If football fans aren't allowed to call for the death of rival teams, why are Hamas fans allowed to call for the death of the IDF?