So this Epstein file issue is causing real problems for Trump with the red meat MAGA base. This is a Catch 22 situation for him; don't release the files as he's promised over and over (as has his clown-lieutenants) and face the wrath of a substantial part of his base, or release them and thereby confirm he's named in the files.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't, Donny. I'm sooooo sorry for you!

 

Trump's most ardent supporters are in revolt, Epstein fallout poses a loyalty test: Trump or MAGA?

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/14/politics/epstein-fallout-trump-maga

 

"The Justice Department and the FBI released a memo last week concluding there was no evidence that Epstein had a list of powerful men who participated in his alleged underworld of sex trafficking and pedophilia. It also said the disgraced former financier died by suicide and was not murdered in his New York jail cell.

Yet after years of big promises to the president’s base, the memo failed to produce a smoking gun, undercutting Trump and his team’s own words. And MAGA world isn’t happy, pitting the president’s closest allies against one another."

I read one theory that the whole Epstein situation is a trap set up by Trump's enemies to sabotage him.

 

But have not followed the details and don't know if this claim is true. 

 

A lot of people in high places seem to hate Trump though, so it's likely. 

 

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

I read one theory that the whole Epstein situation is a trap set up by Trump's enemies to sabotage him.

 

But have not followed the details and don't know if this claim is true. 

 

A lot of people in high places seem to hate Trump though, so it's likely. 

 

Ah, another conspiracy theory, and this time from the right. How unusual!

11 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Ah, another conspiracy theory, and this time from the right. How unusual!

 

Yeah, not saying it's true .... just putting it out there ... 

Should I believe everything I read from "your team"? 

 

Must be true if CNN says so.

Why be ignorant? Maga don't care.

Except Catturd apparently. Gives a whole new meaning to Catturd's signature: "The turd you can't flush." 

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Yeah, not saying it's true .... just putting it out there ... 

Should I believe everything I read from "your team"? 

 

No one should believe everything they read, period. 

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Must be true if CNN says so.

So it's not true?

 

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Must be true if CNN says so.

And why not, they got it right about lying Trump..........

5 minutes ago, transam said:

And why not, they got it right about lying Trump..........

You forgot they got it right that Harris would win the election and Biden is sharp as ever? 

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

You forgot they got it right that Harris would win the election and Biden is sharp as ever? 

Who did, me  😁 ?, nothing was certain until it was over, chap, and now folk are paying for it, a dictator who doesn't know what he is doing.......😥...............😉

Honestly, there are so many rich and powerful on the list, if it exists, that Trump comes quite low in the ranks.

Prince Andrew, after do many denials, would get kicked out of his home.

"Bondi says Epstein client list 'sitting on my desk right now,' and is reviewing JFK, MLK files.

Bondi herself advocated for the release of the Epstein list in 2024."

21st February, Fox news. Link:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bondi-says-epstein-client-list-sitting-my-desk-right-now-reviewing-jfk-mlk-files

 

"US justice department finds no Epstein 'client list'"

BBC news, 6 days ago. Link:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2m879neljo

 

So somebody was or is lying. And it's clear that the leftish dems are not involved, as they are not in power to do so...

 

 

22 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I read one theory that the whole Epstein situation is a trap set up by Trump's enemies to sabotage him.

 

But have not followed the details and don't know if this claim is true. 

 

A lot of people in high places seem to hate Trump though, so it's likely. 

 

Nice try at reversing facts. It was dominantly MAGA stuff.

 

The Epstein client file story has been touted by MAGAs in order to smear the Dems, accused of refusing to release it in order to protect their friends and backers.

 

Those MAGA creeps, such as Bondi and Patel, are now entangled in their lies, whatever the lies may be: 🤣

- either they lied and made up the existence of this file, and now they cannot deliver (that's what I tend to think);

- or there was actually a file, and now they are lying when they claim there isn't (because someone' in it)

 

It appears there's no actual client list but many hours of revealing video and damning phone calls between powerful hebephiles. This from one of Epstein's victim's attorney:
 

https://www.wpbf.com/article/florida-epstein-attorney-black-book-secret-tapes-client-list/65384225

 

11 hours ago, candide said:

Nice try at reversing facts.

 

all's fair in love and war.

if distorting the facts is what it takes to WIN .... then so be it. 

 

20 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

"Bondi says Epstein client list 'sitting on my desk right now,' and is reviewing JFK, MLK files.

Bondi herself advocated for the release of the Epstein list in 2024."

21st February, Fox news. Link:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bondi-says-epstein-client-list-sitting-my-desk-right-now-reviewing-jfk-mlk-files

 

"US justice department finds no Epstein 'client list'"

BBC news, 6 days ago. Link:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2m879neljo

 

So somebody was or is lying. And it's clear that the leftish dems are not involved, as they are not in power to do so...

 

 

But The Laptop!

1 hour ago, BLMFem said:

So this Epstein file issue is causing real problems for Trump with the red meat MAGA base. This is a Catch 22 situation for him; don't release the files as he's promised over and over (as has his clown-lieutenants) and face the wrath of a substantial part of his base, or release them and thereby confirm he's named in the files.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't, Donny. I'm sooooo sorry for you!

 

Trump's most ardent supporters are in revolt, Epstein fallout poses a loyalty test: Trump or MAGA?

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/14/politics/epstein-fallout-trump-maga

 

"The Justice Department and the FBI released a memo last week concluding there was no evidence that Epstein had a list of powerful men who participated in his alleged underworld of sex trafficking and pedophilia. It also said the disgraced former financier died by suicide and was not murdered in his New York jail cell.

Yet after years of big promises to the president’s base, the memo failed to produce a smoking gun, undercutting Trump and his team’s own words. And MAGA world isn’t happy, pitting the president’s closest allies against one another."

People should chase him out of White House

3 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

But The Laptop!

So Hunter Biden is (possibly) also on the list?

Or do you mean my laptop?

Or yours?

Or...?

 

 

Just now, Schoggibueb said:

So Hunter Biden is (possibly) also on the list?

Or do you mean my laptop?

Or yours?

Or...?

 

 

Checked my laptop. Nothing found. 

 

Laptop fake news?

Dunno if the Epstein situation can do any harm to this thug.

 

"Grab them by the pu$$y" should have alienated every woman and every decent man in America. Yet he got reelected, leaves wondering about American morals.

Meanwhile Maxwell sitting in prison all these years for being innocent.

She says she's ready to talk.

One of these days a suicide with paper sheets ?

On 7/14/2025 at 5:00 PM, dinsdale said:

You forgot they got it right that Harris would win the election and Biden is sharp as ever? 

As an ardent supporter you are cornered, and you are desperate, and the quality of your content is dropping by the minute. 

Even this nutcase is turning on poor old Trump.😁

 

"Trump Loyalist Is Latest MAGA Diehard to Revolt Over Epstein Files.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-loyalist-latest-maga-diehard-212838196.html

 

"Flynn, a retired lieutenant general and infamous conspiracy theorist, posted a 500-word X missive directed at the president, calling on him to rectify his mishandling of the Epstein files.

“With my strongest recommendation, please gather your team and figure out a way to move past this,” Flynn, 66, wrote. “The roll out of this was terrible, no way around that."

3 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Even this nutcase is turning on poor old Trump.😁

 

"Trump Loyalist Is Latest MAGA Diehard to Revolt Over Epstein Files.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-loyalist-latest-maga-diehard-212838196.html

 

"Flynn, a retired lieutenant general and infamous conspiracy theorist, posted a 500-word X missive directed at the president, calling on him to rectify his mishandling of the Epstein files.

“With my strongest recommendation, please gather your team and figure out a way to move past this,” Flynn, 66, wrote. “The roll out of this was terrible, no way around that."

But the liar Trump just claimed it was a Dem hoax!

(He's also insulting his fans and is calling them "weaklings"! 

🤣

Trump lashes out at ‘weaklings’ who believe Epstein ‘bullsh*t’ amid building GOP pressure to release documents

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/16/politics/trump-epstein-weaklings-supporters?adobe_mc=TS%3D1752734223|MCMID%3D72930993794519071334713548976840673148|MCORGID%3D7FF852E2556756057F000101%40AdobeOrg&iid=cnn-mobile-app&iid=cnn-mobile-app

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12 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

OMG!

 

 

OMG! A troll is trolling! 🤣

37 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Who cares other than you.

The answer to your question is literally in the post you replied to. Do you want me to post the links again so this time you can actually open them instead of instinctively posting diversions?

They ran on conspiracy theories, appointed people who spent all their time creating and stoking conspiracy theories, including Patel, including Bondi, including lying about the 2020 election, and now their conspiracy theories are biting them in the butt, because this whole Epstein thing is incriminating to the king. He will not stop saying whatever serves his followers, we saw him do that throughout the election cycle, which said I will tell you what I think you want to hear, I will not stop lying, I will not stop saying whatever serves my viewpoints, and then I will shift if it benefits me to shift.

 

This is the non-transparency group, this is the administration that says don't believe you're lying eyes, and we're not going to actually tell you the truth, we're pulling data off our websites, we're actually making sure we can spin whatever story we want and never be held accountable to you. And by the way we will flood the zone with federal agents, we will put them in masks and we will have them refuse to even identify who they are, but no we're the transparency, administration, we're going to get the Deep State.

 

No, this is the Deep State, Trump has become the Deep state, their refusal to be transparent and follow through on promises to their base is exactly why this is coming home to roost.