1 hour ago, Harrisfan said:

Recent studies indicate that some low-lying islands in the Pacific, such as Tuvalu, are actually gaining mass rather than shrinking due to rising sea levels. Research conducted by the University of Auckland found that Tuvalu's land area increased by 2.9% between 1971 and 2014, with 74% of its islands growing in size despite rising sea levels

The increase in land mass is accounted for almost entirely by the growth in coral atolls surrounding the island.

4 hours ago, KhaoHom said:

In the end Thailand will do nothing because the nation is gridlocked between competing influences none of which are aligned with the good and betterment of Thailand.

Yes, a good summary that applies to just about all government & administration in Thailand.

The Thai Government acknowledged that Bangkok was sinking back in 1981. more than 40 years ago.  I suspect it will be another 40 years before they actually do something about it.....Maybe.  No worries, I'll be long gone by then.

The Dutch did offer their help before, but was not accepted. Let's see with what kind of idea the Thai Government is coming up now....

Use gondolas in bkk like Venice ,

1 minute ago, Richardsamui said:

The Dutch did offer their help before, but was not accepted. 

That is an AN myth. Completely untrue.

See my earlier post.

According to Wikipedia the current elevation of Bangkok is 8 metres. So my calculation is that it will take 800 years to sink below the current sea level. 

Bangkok will not be underwater with a 10 cm rise in ocean levels.

1 minute ago, gabruce said:

According to Wikipedia the current elevation of Bangkok is 8 metres. So my calculation is that it will take 800 years to sink below the current sea level. 

Exactly.

6 hours ago, ezzra said:

Would that mean that everyone will have sea view from their property? surly it's; a god thing, no?

If you believe it may be Divine intervention, so be it. 😋

7 minutes ago, gabruce said:

According to Wikipedia the current elevation of Bangkok is 8 metres. So my calculation is that it will take 800 years to sink below the current sea level. 

 

That's the BTS.

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Composite for reference only
 

Bangkok's Infamous Floods Set to Worsen as City Sinks Alarming Rate

 

Bangkok, already infamous for its snarled traffic and severe flooding, now faces an even more alarming future - potentially vanishing beneath the waves within a decade if climate change and unchecked development continue at their current pace.

 

Recent studies have flagged Bangkok and Jakarta as two of Southeast Asia’s fastest-sinking cities.

 

According to The Guardian, Bangkok is subsiding by over a centimetre each year and could fall below sea level by 2030, posing a grave threat to millions of residents and jeopardising the Thai capital’s status as a major tourism and business hub.

 

Jakarta, facing a similar situation, is sinking even faster—dropping up to 17 centimetres annually, primarily due to excessive groundwater extraction. In response to the sinking threat, Indonesian officials have endorsed an ambitious plan to relocate the capital city, moving it 100 miles away from Java. Projected to span a decade, this massive undertaking will cost approximately 1.2 trillion baht.

 

Bangkok faces an equally formidable challenge. To combat the annual deluges during the monsoon, the city has turned to creative solutions like Chulalongkorn University Centenary Park, an 11-acre green space designed to absorb a million gallons of rainwater. However, experts caution that such efforts are merely temporary solutions against the backdrop of rising sea levels.

 

A significant study from Nanyang Technological University (NTU) in Singapore foresees global sea levels rising by as much as 1.9 metres by 2100 if carbon emissions remain unchecked. “The high-end projection underscores the need for decision-makers to plan critical infrastructure accordingly,” stated Dr Benjamin Grandey, lead author of the research.

 

These projections highlight the urgent necessity for Bangkok to implement sustainable infrastructure and climate policies. Urgent measures are needed to both mitigate the subsidence of the city and prepare for the long-term effects of climate change.

 

  Adapted by ASEAN Now from The Thaiger 2025-07-16

 

 

Good. Could do with thousands of human turds being flushed away

35 minutes ago, gabruce said:

According to Wikipedia the current elevation of Bangkok is 8 metres. So my calculation is that it will take 800 years to sink below the current sea level. 

ChatGPT says a bit less:

"Bangkok is approximately 1.5 to 2 meters (5 to 6.5 feet) above sea level on average.

However, the elevation varies slightly across the city. Some low-lying areas can be less than 1 meter above sea level, which contributes to frequent flooding risks, especially during the rainy season or high tides." 

 

Still loads of years to go then.

59 minutes ago, gabruce said:

According to Wikipedia the current elevation of Bangkok is 8 metres. So my calculation is that it will take 800 years to sink below the current sea level. 

AI says differently:

 

Bangkok is generally very low-lying. Its average elevation is around 1.5 meters (4.9 feet) above sea level. However, some areas of the city are actually 1 meter (3.3 feet) below sea level due to subsidence caused by factors like groundwater extraction.

8 hours ago, BritManToo said:

They seem confused, Bangkok sinking and sea levels rising are completely separate things.

 

1. Sea levels aren't rising.

 

The IPCC beg to differ. In AR6 https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/syr/figures/figure-3-4 

 

Quote

Relative to 1995–2014, the likely global mean sea level rise by 2050 is between 0.15–0.23 m in the very low GHG emissions scenario (SSP1-1.9) and 0.20– 0.29 m in the very high GHG emissions scenario (SSP5-8.5); by 2100 between 0.28–0.55 m under SSP1-1.9 and 0.63– 1.01 m under SSP5-8.5; and by 2150 between 0.37–0.86 m under SSP1-1.9 and 0.98–1.88 m under SSP5-8.5 (medium confidence).

Most media climate doom merchants implicitly use SSP5-8.5 (> 3C warming by 2100), but that is no longer considered likely. Instead up to 2C is likeliest at the moment and this trajectory can also change. Decarbonisation proceeds apace, despite the prognostication of government.

 

"Official" climate change explainers neglect that SSP5-8.5 has been unlikely for many years (not least because it assumes more coal than exists would be burned). Unfortunately it tends to form the basis for government policy responses.

 

8 hours ago, BritManToo said:

2. Bangkok may be sinking, as building on top of a swamp then extracting the groundwater may cause sinking.

Makes sense to me. I assume you'd need to plan to counter both sea level rise and Venice-like sinking.

Just call the Dutch. But............. and this is what the Chinese understood better: import all quality and copy it. Learn from it and then continue with your own development. The Chinese were not too stubborn for that. However, it’s different with the Thais

I moved out 7 years ago because I could see what was happening in Tung Kru, Samuth Prakarn where my wife and I used to live in a housing estate next to a canal that connects to the sea. It's a real phenonomenon!

Sea level rise at the Gulf of Thailand is already well advanced with parts of Samut Prakan already heavily under water. Just go and take a look at Wat Khun Samut Chin, a temple already all but completely flooded by rising sea levels and coastal erosion. It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with the politics, the reality is that at the rate that land is sinking and sea level rising the entire central plains of Thailand will be under 2-3 m of water by 2100. https://earth.org/data_visualization/sea-level-rise-by-the-end-of-the-century-bangkok/ Nothing can stop that trend and melting of polar ice-masses and glaciers in the Himalayas will make it happen faster. Moving the capital to Ayutthaya won't escape the inundation that's coming! Better try Sukhothai or Chiang Mai. Divesting of coastal property between Rayong and Hua Hin and buying in the north would seem a sensible 20 year strategy!

9 hours ago, BritManToo said:

They seem confused, Bangkok sinking and sea levels rising are completely separate things.

 

1. Sea levels aren't rising.

 

2. Bangkok may be sinking, as building on top of a swamp then extracting the groundwater may cause sinking.

#1 Really ?

7 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

#1 Really ?

And in 1942 ...........

 

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

And in 1942 ...........

Yep floods in the city due to rainfall, possibly monsoon season... a fact.

An sea levels are rising.... fact

Two separate issues

 

If the authorities are not going to act with a causeway, then at the very least they should be making plans to move the capital to Udon Thani.

 

Have to face it. BKK has seen its day. In 100 years it will be history.

Sounds like an extension of the Al

Gore fairytale 

14 hours ago, webfact said:

Composite for reference only
 

Bangkok's Infamous Floods Set to Worsen as City Sinks Alarming Rate

 

Bangkok, already infamous for its snarled traffic and severe flooding, now faces an even more alarming future - potentially vanishing beneath the waves within a decade if climate change and unchecked development continue at their current pace.

 

Recent studies have flagged Bangkok and Jakarta as two of Southeast Asia’s fastest-sinking cities.

 

According to The Guardian, Bangkok is subsiding by over a centimetre each year and could fall below sea level by 2030, posing a grave threat to millions of residents and jeopardising the Thai capital’s status as a major tourism and business hub.

 

Jakarta, facing a similar situation, is sinking even faster—dropping up to 17 centimetres annually, primarily due to excessive groundwater extraction. In response to the sinking threat, Indonesian officials have endorsed an ambitious plan to relocate the capital city, moving it 100 miles away from Java. Projected to span a decade, this massive undertaking will cost approximately 1.2 trillion baht.

 

Bangkok faces an equally formidable challenge. To combat the annual deluges during the monsoon, the city has turned to creative solutions like Chulalongkorn University Centenary Park, an 11-acre green space designed to absorb a million gallons of rainwater. However, experts caution that such efforts are merely temporary solutions against the backdrop of rising sea levels.

 

A significant study from Nanyang Technological University (NTU) in Singapore foresees global sea levels rising by as much as 1.9 metres by 2100 if carbon emissions remain unchecked. “The high-end projection underscores the need for decision-makers to plan critical infrastructure accordingly,” stated Dr Benjamin Grandey, lead author of the research.

 

These projections highlight the urgent necessity for Bangkok to implement sustainable infrastructure and climate policies. Urgent measures are needed to both mitigate the subsidence of the city and prepare for the long-term effects of climate change.

 

  Adapted by ASEAN Now from The Thaiger 2025-07-16

 

 

 

The major challenge of relocating the government is that businesses will likely follow, meaning most Thais will also move, which will lead to a decline in housing and a drop in support for businesses.

 

Consider also that if they relocate the government and demolish a great deal of the historical buildings, tourism will suffer.

 

There would be little left for people, and you have to wonder how many hotel chains will still be in Thailand (Bangkok) once that happens.

 

One thing that is not mentioned is that if Bangkok is going through this, it would not be a significant leap in thought that Pattaya will also be affected, as well as possibly the eastern corridor.

 

Itis going to be interesting to see 

 

a. if they do anything

b. who does it

c. when do they take it seriously

d. do they use the Louisiana or Dutch method of dealing with it

 

maybe wee need to be asking the same question as the lae Johnny Cash

 

 

 

Rent a high floor condo if you are worried. 

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

Yep floods in the city due to rainfall, possibly monsoon season... a fact.

An sea levels are rising.... fact

Two separate issues

 

Linked issues due to more evaporation into atmosphere leading to larger, more intense storms/typhoons, monsoons leading to more floods.  The increased warmth which allows for the atmosphere to hold more water vapour, also increases rate of melting of ice, whether in glaciers or ice caps at the poles.

Off topic deflection posts about the USA and the replies have been removed.

4 hours ago, MarkmBha said:

Exactly.

It might be 798 years, not exact

2 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

The major challenge of relocating the government is that businesses will likely follow, meaning most Thais will also move, which will lead to a decline in housing and a drop in support for businesses.

Do you mean decline in house prices? If so, that might be a good thing on the average (assuming enough jobs remain to pay people to live in the cheaper housing).

When the water reaches the front doors of the so called 'Elite' something might get done.    However; as the majority of said 'Elite' have properties in The North and abroad they will simply move away and watch as Bangkok sinks and takes the Poor with it !