August 21, 2025Aug 21 6 minutes ago, BritManToo said: But they chose to post via the EU, cos the post office was too expensive for them. I wouldn't know, but seeing as 16 weeks has been allowed to cover post both ways, I wouldn't have thought it mattered, as long as it's all air mail. In my area, it is actually receiving post, no Christmas or birthday cards, for instance..😪
August 21, 2025Aug 21 9 hours ago, BritManToo said: There was never any way to refuse the winter fuel payment. It was put in your bank whether you wanted it or not. This article just posted in another thread by @3NUMBAS has a link - https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/dwp-confirms-start-taking-payments-35748285
August 21, 2025Aug 21 3 hours ago, topt said: This article just posted in another thread by @3NUMBAS has a link - https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/dwp-confirms-start-taking-payments-35748285 I find it best not to attract government officials attention. I'll just merge into the other 22 million and hope not to be noticed. I did find that story interesting in that it states the DWP cannot access everyone's accounts, but must request statements for people they are investigating, which clearly stops computers trawling everyone's accounts for items of interest.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 Author 15 hours ago, transam said: I wouldn't know, but seeing as 16 weeks has been allowed to cover post both ways, I wouldn't have thought it mattered, as long as it's all air mail. In my area, it is actually receiving post, no Christmas or birthday cards, for instance..😪 They know and both ends and deliberately do this and post both countries is very poor or non-existent and frankly again they want us dead ASAP, and it is not just the DWP but other pension providers too.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 18 hours ago, OJAS said: Would I really be required to account for every last penny of my perpetually frozen State Pension to DWP in considerable detail? As it is frozen, you have already declared that you are overseas. Likewise every other person / pensioner that has declared they are overseas, are not the focus of attention.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 14 hours ago, BritManToo said: I'll just merge into the other 22 million and hope not to be noticed. But it's not 22 million others, is it ? It is a fraction of that amount you will be trying to hide in.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 13 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: But it's not 22 million others, is it ? It is a fraction of that amount you will be trying to hide in. 22 million bank accounts of claimants. Statements have to be requested for each person investigated.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 1 minute ago, BritManToo said: 22 million bank accounts of claimants. You keep believing that. Subtract the millions ( probably around 15 million ) who are doing nothing wrong, are in the UK, as evidenced by the activity on their account. Subtract those that have declared they are overseas. That pool of 22 million, has shrunk to a very small puddle. I could not care less, what you might, or might not be doing, none of my business. I'm simply advising you, that the big pool of 22 million that you might think you are hiding in, is nowhere near as deep as you think it is. 8 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Statements have to be requested for each person investigated. Sure, Bank X,Y and Z, provide statements for every account that you believe the account holder might not be in the UK, based on transaction history. Press the pause payment button, wait for phone to ring.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 2 hours ago, The Cyclist said: Subtract the millions ( probably around 15 million ) who are doing nothing wrong, are in the UK, as evidenced by the activity on their account. Yeah, but they can't view individual accounts without requesting their statements. And my bank account has 2 pension deposits in and 2 transfers to WISE as my only actively. Which would be the same if I were living in the UK, I've always had one account for deposits and another account with a different bank for spending. And they can't view my WISE transactions without a court order as it's not a bank. So I'm still part of the 22 million. It does seem you have some sort of alarmist/misinformation spreading agenda to keep making these silly circular posts. Hopefully they'll ban you like they did Mike Lister and Chaing Mai for all these financial trolling posts.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 5 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Yeah, but they can't view their accounts without requesting the statements. And my bank account has 2 pension deposits in and 2 transfers to WISE as my only actively. Which would be the same if I were living in the UK, I've always had one account for deposits and another account with a different bank for spending. And they can't view my WISE transactions without a court order as it's not a bank. So I'm still part of the 22 million. It does seem you have some sort of alarmist agenda to keep making these silly circular posts. UK banks have mandatory obligations to report suspicious activity, and under the Public Authorities (Fraud, Error and Recovery) Bill 2025, these duties are being expanded and streamlined to support benefit fraud detection and tax compliance. So the risk is the banks look at your transactions, flags them to the DWP/HMRC ....and with the new law in place the DWP/HMRC simply request all your bank details. It looks like Russian roulette (will you get be flagged) on a massive scale for anyone trying to fiddle the system
August 22, 2025Aug 22 8 minutes ago, Will B Good said: UK banks have mandatory obligations to report suspicious activity, and under the Public Authorities (Fraud, Error and Recovery) Bill 2025, these duties are being expanded and streamlined to support benefit fraud detection and tax compliance. So the risk is the banks look at your transactions, flags them to the DWP/HMRC ....and with the new law in place the DWP/HMRC simply request all your bank details. It looks like Russian roulette (will you get be flagged) on a massive scale for anyone trying to fiddle the system More alarmist nonsense. Give it a rest!
August 22, 2025Aug 22 4 minutes ago, BritManToo said: More alarmist nonsense. Give it a rest! Which bit is alarmist? These are the new laws currently in place. The banks are obligated to flag suspicious behaviour and the DWP/HMRC can request the information once it has been flagged. The only alarmist part is that sheer scale of benefit fraud means many people, even when flagged, might not be approached by the authorities.....so again which bit is alarmist?????
August 22, 2025Aug 22 8 minutes ago, Will B Good said: Which bit is alarmist? These are the new laws currently in place. The banks are obligated to flag suspicious behaviour and the DWP/HMRC can request the information once it has been flagged. The only alarmist part is that sheer scale of benefit fraud means many people, even when flagged, might not be approached by the authorities.....so again which bit is alarmist????? Define suspicious behaviour?
August 22, 2025Aug 22 10 minutes ago, BritManToo said: It does seem you have some sort of alarmist/misinformation spreading agenda to keep making these silly circular posts. Hopefully they'll ban you like they did Mike Lister and Chaing Mai for all these financial trolling posts. I have already gave you the answer to that. I am not spreading any agenda, and neither am I trolling. I couldn't care less what you are doing, or not doing. I'm advising you that the DWP has had a massive rocket up its **** and you are not being as clever as you think you think you might be. What you do with that advice, is entirely up to you. 14 minutes ago, BritManToo said: And my bank account has 2 pension deposits in and 2 transfers to WISE as my only actively. And that, right there, is what is going to flag you. This is not normal banking activity for someone based in the UK. You might not like this, but I previously advised you that the onus would be passed to banks to identify accounts that were suspicious or suspect. Quote through DWP’s Eligibility Verification Measure, require banks and other financial institutions to examine their own data sets and provide data to help identify where someone may not be meeting the specific eligibility criteria of a benefit. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/public-authorities-fraud-error-and-recovery-bill-2025-factsheets/public-authorities-fraud-error-and-recovery-bill-overview-factsheet The information is free. What you decide to do with it, is your decision alone.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 1 minute ago, BritManToo said: Define suspicious behaviour? What a staggeringly moronic question to ask. What does matter what I think might be suspicious behaviour? Now answer the sensible question I asked, rather than deflecting like a brain damaged schoolboy......which part of what I have posted is alarmist.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 3 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: I have already gave you the answer to that. I am not spreading any agenda, and neither am I trolling. I couldn't care less what you are doing, or not doing. I'm advising you that the DWP has had a massive rocket up its **** and you are not being as clever as you think you think you might be. What you do with that advice, is entirely up to you. And that, right there, is what is going to flag you. This is not normal banking activity for someone based in the UK. You might not like this, but I previously advised you that the onus would be passed to banks to identify accounts that were suspicious or suspect. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/public-authorities-fraud-error-and-recovery-bill-2025-factsheets/public-authorities-fraud-error-and-recovery-bill-overview-factsheet The information is free. What you decide to do with it, is your decision alone. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 18 hours ago, BritManToo said: . . . . . which clearly stops computers trawling everyone's accounts for items of interest. Stops the DWP computers but not the banks' computers and the onus for unearthing fraud is now being put on the banks. 32 minutes ago, BritManToo said: And they can't view my WISE transactions without a court order as it's not a bank. The new law (if passed) covers banks and other financial institutions such as Wise, so if investigated (which is unlikely IMO) they could just as easily access Wise info as bank info.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 Some people would do well to read, digest and take note. Quote Thousands of people living abroad will have their child benefit stopped as the government clamps down on people wrongly claiming the payment, reports the PA news agency. Quote It follows a successful trial in which 15 investigators stopped 2,600 people receiving the benefit after moving abroad, saving around £17m over the past year. That team will now be increased to more than 200 investigators, Applicable to Child benefit. It will be applied to all benefits. With an additional warning Quote From September, we’ll have 10 times as many investigators saving hundreds of millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money. If you’re claiming benefits you’re not entitled to, your time is up. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2025/aug/22/asylum-hotels-labour-immigration-protests-conservatives-kemi-badenoch-keir-starmer-uk-politics-live
August 22, 2025Aug 22 5 hours ago, Will B Good said: These are the new laws currently in place. If you are referring to the bill about which this thread was started then not quite yet. From the link above - Quote These efforts include the public authorities (fraud, error and recovery) bill currently making its way through parliament.
August 23, 2025Aug 23 On 8/22/2025 at 1:37 PM, The Cyclist said: I have already gave you the answer to that. I am not spreading any agenda, and neither am I trolling. I couldn't care less what you are doing, or not doing. I'm advising you that the DWP has had a massive rocket up its **** and you are not being as clever as you think you think you might be. What you do with that advice, is entirely up to you. And that, right there, is what is going to flag you. This is not normal banking activity for someone based in the UK. You might not like this, but I previously advised you that the onus would be passed to banks to identify accounts that were suspicious or suspect. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/public-authorities-fraud-error-and-recovery-bill-2025-factsheets/public-authorities-fraud-error-and-recovery-bill-overview-factsheet The information is free. What you decide to do with it, is your decision alone. The term "alarmist" seems to be mentioned the only alarm would be that you haven't punched a massive hole through that crapper you use ,you sure spew it out and it stinks Undoubtedly my statement would have caused alarm with you,probably with the crapper too with his pants covered in sh.t Now notwithstanding those pulled quotes from newspapers,I'm going to quote facts,real facts....so please commence....ASAP
August 23, 2025Aug 23 5 minutes ago, jori123 said: The term "alarmist" seems to be mentioned the only alarm would be that you haven't punched a massive hole through that crapper you use ,you sure spew it out and it stinks Undoubtedly my statement would have caused alarm with you,probably with the crapper too with his pants covered in sh.t Now notwithstanding those pulled quotes from newspapers,I'm going to quote facts,real facts....so please commence....ASAP Are you posting sitting on the loo, by any chance.....?....🤢.........😂
August 23, 2025Aug 23 1 minute ago, transam said: Are you posting sitting on the loo, by any chance.....?....🤢.........😂 AH, there you are, Now, I hereby make an admission ,yes I am. Every post I put up,you follow instantly ,likened to now, if not a post a emoji,every single time,bothers me not one bit, but what it does show you are deeply wounded,bitter and resentful,envious and yes jealous . !5 years of no drip drip drip (I have it) you don't,in other words I've got it and you ain't,and that is I'm afraid for you going to last a lifetime, not long to go tho lol
August 23, 2025Aug 23 10 minutes ago, transam said: Are you posting sitting on the loo, by any chance.....?....🤢.........😂 Posting full of Illegal substances. Apparently the Government website is the media https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/public-authorities-fraud-error-and-recovery-bill-2025-factsheets/public-authorities-fraud-error-and-recovery-bill-overview-factsheet Or you can read the full story here. Government website, not the media. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/child-benefit-action-to-save-350-million-from-claimants-abroad
August 23, 2025Aug 23 4 minutes ago, jori123 said: AH, there you are, Now, I hereby make an admission ,yes I am. Every post I put up,you follow instantly ,likened to now, if not a post a emoji,every single time,bothers me not one bit, but what it does show you are deeply wounded,bitter and resentful,envious and yes jealous . !5 years of no drip drip drip (I have it) you don't,in other words I've got it and you ain't,and that is I'm afraid for you going to last a lifetime, not long to go tho lol ........Hey, I just think you have a screw loose................ Your last few posts sort of prove it, though I do feel sorry for your pants....🤣
August 23, 2025Aug 23 3 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: Posting full of Illegal substances. Apparently the Government website is the media https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/public-authorities-fraud-error-and-recovery-bill-2025-factsheets/public-authorities-fraud-error-and-recovery-bill-overview-factsheet Or you can read the full story here. Government website, not the media. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/child-benefit-action-to-save-350-million-from-claimants-abroad The focal point of this thread is or should be those receiving unfrozen pension in Thailand, not crap of child benefits ,but again quotes from the press ,likened to the boaters too, do you actually read legislation pertaining to Benefits in general ,or is it 'mad woman's shi.te spread" lavishly
August 23, 2025Aug 23 11 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: Posting full of Illegal substances. Apparently the Government website is the media https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/public-authorities-fraud-error-and-recovery-bill-2025-factsheets/public-authorities-fraud-error-and-recovery-bill-overview-factsheet Or you can read the full story here. Government website, not the media. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/child-benefit-action-to-save-350-million-from-claimants-abroad The point is you have not read it or you would have given the shi.te you put out a miss likened to a mile or three
August 23, 2025Aug 23 19 minutes ago, jori123 said: The focal point of this thread is or should be those receiving unfrozen pension in Thailand, State Pensions are a " Benefit " since 2016, which are paid through the DWP. Which will come under the same scrutiny as every other " Benefit " paid by the DWP. Quote The pilot was carried out by the Public Sector Fraud Authority, the Home Office and HMRC. Under the Digital Economy Act, they matched a random sample of 200,000 Child Benefit records with international travel data. Quote A team of just 15 investigators successfully prevented around £17 million being incorrectly paid out in under 12 months. Quote The new team will have over 200 people from next month, sending a clear warning to those trying to scam the system. This was just the test run https://www.gov.uk/government/news/child-benefit-action-to-save-350-million-from-claimants-abroad And then add in this Quote through DWP’s Eligibility Verification Measure, require banks and other financial institutions to examine their own data sets and provide data to help identify where someone may not be meeting the specific eligibility criteria of a benefit. What could that possibly mean ? It means that the DWP won't be trawling bank accounts, getting warrants to check on people. The Banks will be doing it. And it is due to start in April and the start of the new financial year. You carry on windmilling.
August 23, 2025Aug 23 48 minutes ago, transam said: Are you posting sitting on the loo, by any chance.....?....🤢.........😂 31 minutes ago, transam said: ........Hey, I just think you have a screw loose................ Your last few posts sort of prove it, though I do feel sorry for your pants....🤣 This is to a point is pathetic,both these posts if these are intended insults and they are,it shows what a pathetic individual not juvenile,infantile more like,life screwed up,envious,angry,drained of money,certainly resentful,why contact ipc ?only to drop your fellow posters in it,but ended up the laughing stock there at ipc 48 minutes ago, jori123 said: AH, there you are, Now, I hereby make an admission ,yes I am. Every post I put up,you follow instantly ,likened to now, if not a post a emoji,every single time,bothers me not one bit, but what it does show you are deeply wounded,bitter and resentful,envious and yes jealous . !5 years of no drip drip drip (I have it) you don't,in other words I've got it and you ain't,and that is I'm afraid for you going to last a lifetime, not long to go tho lol
August 23, 2025Aug 23 2 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: State Pensions are a " Benefit " since 2016, which are paid through the DWP. Which will come under the same scrutiny as every other " Benefit " paid by the DWP. This was just the test run https://www.gov.uk/government/news/child-benefit-action-to-save-350-million-from-claimants-abroad And then add in this What could that possibly mean ? It means that the DWP won't be trawling bank accounts, getting warrants to check on people. The Banks will be doing it. And it is due to start in April and the start of the new financial year. You carry on windmilling. Only one here sunshine,quoting quoting newspapers,not that anything has happened or ever will,but I encourage you to check up on state pension,not spread it around like mad woman's shi.te benefits that are not even connected to sp go on more newspaper quotes a'comin' and without even guessing ever more a'comin' lol
August 23, 2025Aug 23 17 minutes ago, jori123 said: Only one here sunshine,quoting quoting newspapers, You're stuttering and getting confused This is the Government website Here, which will tell you about the Pilot Scheme and how it will be rolled out https://www.gov.uk/government/news/child-benefit-action-to-save-350-million-from-claimants-abroad And here, which will tell you about Eligibility Verification Powers https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/67dc37c50298101d2d67120a/evm-factsheet.pdf Keep windmilling
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