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Road Rage (Foreigner Style)

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4 minutes ago, JakeC said:

Thanks @fredwiggy But the only advice that I accept from weirdoes would be to not be like them. The evidence shows that you are a narc and not an empath. Of course you won't ever admit nor choose to see that. 

You hope you telling us something means that we should take that for gospel, but I instead look at what you do. How you behave. I'm not so easily manipulated. You are a narc, for sure.

Not my problem. Your problem. You call me names but they don't even touch me, but my words are close to the bone for you...aren't they? You are NOT an empath. You regularly fly of the handle spitting abuse, hardly able to control yourself.

Let's leave it there. You are too old to improve.

You've again proven your ignorance, as a narcissist only think about themselves , uses others for their own gain, doesn't take responsibility for their family and looks at women as conquests.

 

Again, seeing you can't either comprehend what i write or are too stupid to see you're failures, others here who know me know that I have a child here that I'm waiting for the right time to bring her to the US for a better life. That I treated all the women in my life well but just chose wrong partners to have children with, and that I get along with everyone besides those who are, yes, narcissistic.

I don't give a rat's ass what you think or believe. Your opinions of myself and others mean absolutely nothing. There are other intelligent people here who see me for what I am, and there are buffoons that all act the same way, and that argue with me and others just because of their low self esteem and have nothing better to do.

 

That I again, defend myself against some very strange people here isn't on me but them. That I call you out on your ignorance isn't flying off the handle but necessary, so that others here can see you for exactly what you are. Stop deflecting and grow up/ You're supposed to be an older man, but some never reach that status because of their childhood trauma. Get over it.

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  • To be honest @lordgrinz, I agree with @mancub and think that you precipretated the situation. I'll explain... In Thailand and in fact anywhere, driving is give and take. In other words you allow

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    Yeah, I agree. The man is an idiot and hopefully he'll get a slap one day, but it's hardly a matter for the police. Forget it, move on. And generally don't beep at people, it can be very dangerou

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    That's literally the worst advice you could ever give anyone here.

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@richard_smith237 You cannot teach a pig to sing...They'll just keep oinking regardless. Let's hope @lordgrinz will be more courteous in the future in order to reap the benefits.

It's so much nicer to have people waving and nodding positively at you throughout the day, than to live selfishly, thinking only about yourself.

@fredwiggy should head back to the USA asap...

 

2 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

I simply tooted the horn, he moved over back into his proper lane, all should have been done. He then purposely turned his wheel right and drove at my front fender, where I only tooted quickly again before he hit me, and stopped my vehicle. The Mazda escalated things at this point, not me. He could have just drove off, as he already raced to get in front me, a 60 year old man acting like a violent and ignorant teenager was his choice.

 

Thanks for clarifying the difference between a “toot” and a “blast”....  I honestly don’t think the Mazda driver had any idea you were there.

 

From the video, his reaction to your horn makes that pretty clear – he suddenly swerved back into the left lane, presumably thinking he was about to be hit. That moment seemed to flip him straight into full-on twathead mode.

 

From that point onwards, he (the Mazda driver) was 100% in the wrong by:
a) swerving right across you,
b) accelerating into the right-hand lane before stopping dead, and
c) getting out of his car, approaching you aggressively, and even hitting your window.

 

But here’s the thing – before all that, you could have simply shown a bit more patience. From the Mazda’s road positioning it looked obvious he wanted to turn into the right lane, but had stopped for pedestrians. Pulling up alongside him and using your horn only escalated things.

 

In future, think about your family. Just hold back.

 

I’ve got a mate who’s a bit edgy when he drivers – he thinks every other driver should follow the rules perfectly, and he loses his patience and sometimes temper when they don’t. He’s on the horn constantly, winding himself up over nothing, and honestly… being a passenger in his car is an absolute nightmare. Don’t fall into that trap.

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@richard_smith237 You cannot teach a pig to sing...They'll just keep oinking regardless. Let's hope @lordgrinz will be more courteous in the future in order to reap the benefits.

It's so much nicer to have people waving and nodding positively at you throughout the day, than to live selfishly, thinking only about yourself.

@fredwiggy should head back to the USA asap...

 

And you to Rogers Memorial Hospital. 

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9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

We can’t use our horns to “educate” every bad driver. In this case, there was ample time and space to just slow down, give way, and be courteous....

 

I'm going 10 kph, if I go any slower I'll be standing still. Then you show a picture with him lined up on the left lane with his wheels turned to the left and up against the center line, so we would assume he is turning into the left lane, like all other cars making that left, no?

Ok, it's gettingboring now.

Clearly @fredwiggy & @JakeC don't see eye to eye.

Guys, please take this childish bickering to a private message.

Looks like both of you insist on having teh final word, but neither of you are doing yourself any favours.

1 minute ago, lordgrinz said:

 

I'm going 10 kph, if I go any slower I'll be standing still. Then you show a picture with him lined up on the left lane with his wheels turned to the left and up against the center line, so we would assume he is turning into the left lane, like all other cars making that left, no?

If you're doing 10kmh / 6mph with this view, then there's no chance of an accident.

Taking into account the pedestrians, you should be focusing on their actions and safety.

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@fredwiggy What is this weird new diatribe? Narcissists come in many different forms. There is nothing that I see in you that is empathetic. You are almost always talking yourself up on this board. Not ever showing humility. It's totally ridiculous that you claim to be an empath. You are just on another planet if you expect anyone to believe your nonsense for very long. Your behavbiour is clear for all to see. I'm not lying nor Trolling. It's how you come over. Show me a post or thread from yourself that displays anything like humility. It's all about how great you consider yourself to be. Are you really that blind to yourself? 

@lordgrinz You in fact sped up at that point. So you weren't just staying at 10km/h. 

@2long Just skip over the posts that irk you. No one is directing anything at you....or are you looking for trouble?

If you don't like this thread, find another rather than to complain. Post something on toipc.

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5 minutes ago, 2long said:

If you're doing 10kmh / 6mph with this view, then there's no chance of an accident.

Taking into account the pedestrians, you should be focusing on their actions and safety.

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I am, I'm going 10 kph, duh!

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Well, at least we learnt Jake and Richard are terrible drivers.

 

 

39 minutes ago, JakeC said:

If @lordgrinz hit him, he would have been regarded as at fault, as the car hitting from behind is often seen as responsible.

 

This isn’t true, Jake. In Thailand the police will almost always take the side against the vehicle making a lane change.

 

My wife recently had a minor accident in almost the same situation. There was a gap in traffic she was moving into – though honestly, I don’t know how she didn’t spot the other car that was also changing into the lane. She didn’t give way or stop, and ended up hitting the car as it moved across.

The other driver jumped out and blamed her – “why didn’t you give way?” – but when the police arrived, they sided with my wife.

 

That said, I still think the whole thing could have been avoided if she’d been paying closer attention and simply stopped.

 

Instead, we’ve had the inconvenience of a week without a car, while its in the repair shop for a minor dent and scratches (the other driver’s insurance is covering it).

 

My point is this: in order to actually get anywhere here, you do have to drive with a certain level of assertiveness. The reality is that if an accident happens, the one making the manoeuvre – lane change, U-turn, or nosing into traffic – will almost always be judged at fault, even if the approaching car could have avoided the collision.

 

That’s just how the BiB see it. But at the same time, if you don’t take those risks and move with a degree of assertion, you’ll never get anywhere on these roads. It’s simply part of driving here.... but, there is also an element where one can push too far.

 

Sorry @fredwiggy I don't know anything about the hospital to which you refer. It seems that you do.

1 minute ago, JakeC said:

Post something on toipc.

On WHICH topic?

You and Fred bitching at each other, or the topic of the driving incident, which is the title of the thread.

Just now, JakeC said:

@fredwiggy What is this weird new diatribe? Narcissists come in many different forms. There is nothing that I see in you that is empathetic. You are almost always talking yourself up on this board. Not ever showing humility. It's totally ridiculous that you claim to be an empath. You are just on another planet if you expect anyone to believe your nonsense for very long. Your behavbiour is clear for all to see. I'm not lying nor Trolling. It's how you come over. Show me a post or thread from yourself that displays anything like humility. It's all about how great you consider yourself to be. Are you really that blind to yourself? 

Better educate yourself before you come here, because you're mot only deflecting and playing the victim card, but think you're actually fooling older adults. If you're really that dense, that you don't understand the definition of a narcissist, it's easy to look up, and then come back and try to decipher what I've been doing all along here, and what I've said. Being in denial isn't helping your cause, as most anyone by the time they reach their 50's can see right through a liar. We see them all the time, from politicians to scammers here, so if you think you're fooling anyone, think again.

 

What is my nonsense? I'm quite up on certain subjects and stay out of those I'm not, just like most everyone else. I think you have such a very small education and you have to argue with those that you don't like, just because they disproved you in earlier posts. Take it like a man and just back down. No one here besides those few that are just like you are on your side. I asked you to look at all my posts, to see that I'm here to help others with things I know about, just to keep you honest. of course you won't do that, either because you know I'm right or re just too sad to admit you're wrong.

No, we learned that no one here takes @Cameroni's posts seriously. Not here, not anywhere.

17 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You've again proven your ignorance, as a narcissist only think about themselves , uses others for their own gain, doesn't take responsibility for their family and looks at women as conquests.

 

Again, seeing you can't either comprehend what i write or are too stupid to see you're failures, others here who know me know that I have a child here that I'm waiting for the right time to bring her to the US for a better life. That I treated all the women in my life well but just chose wrong partners to have children with, and that I get along with everyone besides those who are, yes, narcissistic.

I don't give a rat's ass what you think or believe. Your opinions of myself and others mean absolutely nothing. There are other intelligent people here who see me for what I am, and there are buffoons that all act the same way, and that argue with me and others just because of their low self esteem and have nothing better to do.

 

That I again, defend myself against some very strange people here isn't on me but them. That I call you out on your ignorance isn't flying off the handle but necessary, so that others here can see you for exactly what you are. Stop deflecting and grow up/ You're supposed to be an older man, but some never reach that status because of their childhood trauma. Get over it.

Get a room

1 minute ago, 2long said:

On WHICH topic?

You and Fred bitching at each other, or the topic of the driving incident, which is the title of the thread.

He always argues with me, because I proved him wrong a few times in earlier topics. just can't let it go. Butt hurt lasts a long time in some. Sorry you don't know our history so you would understand. 

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

He always argues with me, because I proved him wrong a few times in earlier topics. just can't let it go. Butt hurt lasts a long time in some. Sorry you don't know our history so you would understand. 

Buy lube and condoms then sort it out

Victim @fredwiggy ? What are you talking? Very strange. I am wholly unconcerned about anything you write about me, as it's all based in your mad imagination. Whereas my observations of your behaviour are spot on.

You fit the profile of a narcissist.

 

A narcissist displays traits of extreme self-importance, a deep need for admiration, manipulative behavior, and a significant lack of empathy for others. While anyone can have narcissistic behaviors, a true narcissist exhibits a maladaptive and enduring personality style, often masking fragile self-esteem with an inflated sense of self. The condition, formally known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), involves a pervasive pattern of these traits that negatively affects relationships and daily functioning, and can be a lifelong struggle for those affected.
 

Key Traits and Behaviors

People who are narcissistic often:

Have a grandiose sense of self-importance: They exaggerate achievements, talents, and believe they are "special". 

Need excessive admiration: They crave constant praise and attention to reinforce their fragile self-worth. 

Lack empathy: They have difficulty recognizing or understanding the feelings and needs of others. 

Exhibit entitlement: They expect special treatment and believe rules don't apply to them. 

Are manipulative and exploitative: They take advantage of others to achieve their own ends. 

Are arrogant and haughty: They have a generally boastful or superior attitude. 

Are sensitive to criticism: Despite their outward confidence, they react poorly to any perceived slight or criticism, which they view as a personal attack. 

Underlying Vulnerability

Behind the inflated and confident exterior, individuals with narcissistic traits often have: 

Fragile self-esteem:

Their arrogance and confidence are a mask to hide deep-seated insecurity and shame. 

Difficulty with responsibility:

They tend to shift blame to others rather than accept responsibility for their own actions. 

Impact on Relationships

Narcissistic behavior affects all areas of life, including work, friendships, and family. People in a narcissist's life may find themselves: Constantly seeking to provide validation, Feeling manipulated or exploited, 

7 minutes ago, JakeC said:

Victim @fredwiggy ? What are you talking? Very strange. I am wholly unconcerned about anything you write about me, as it's all based in your mad imagination. Whereas my observations of your behaviour are spot on.

You fit the profile of a narcissist.

 

A narcissist displays traits of extreme self-importance, a deep need for admiration, manipulative behavior, and a significant lack of empathy for others. While anyone can have narcissistic behaviors, a true narcissist exhibits a maladaptive and enduring personality style, often masking fragile self-esteem with an inflated sense of self. The condition, formally known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), involves a pervasive pattern of these traits that negatively affects relationships and daily functioning, and can be a lifelong struggle for those affected.
 

Key Traits and Behaviors

People who are narcissistic often:

Have a grandiose sense of self-importance: They exaggerate achievements, talents, and believe they are "special". 

Need excessive admiration: They crave constant praise and attention to reinforce their fragile self-worth. 

Lack empathy: They have difficulty recognizing or understanding the feelings and needs of others. 

Exhibit entitlement: They expect special treatment and believe rules don't apply to them. 

Are manipulative and exploitative: They take advantage of others to achieve their own ends. 

Are arrogant and haughty: They have a generally boastful or superior attitude. 

Are sensitive to criticism: Despite their outward confidence, they react poorly to any perceived slight or criticism, which they view as a personal attack. 

Underlying Vulnerability

Behind the inflated and confident exterior, individuals with narcissistic traits often have: 

Fragile self-esteem:

Their arrogance and confidence are a mask to hide deep-seated insecurity and shame. 

Difficulty with responsibility:

They tend to shift blame to others rather than accept responsibility for their own actions. 

Impact on Relationships

Narcissistic behavior affects all areas of life, including work, friendships, and family. People in a narcissist's life may find themselves: Constantly seeking to provide validation, Feeling manipulated or exploited, 

Thanks for describing yourself. it makes it easier for others not fully informed of your type. I was fully aware of the definitions as I've been studying them for decades now.  Deflection is one of your traits. Easily spotted in most of your replies, and ignorance of the facts I've pointed out in how I live my life.

 

The only thing we know about you is that you act this way all the time. That plus change usernames thinking you're hiding from those well aware of your kind. Now, go to sleep, and dream of the tragedy that is your life.

@fredwiggy You are funny. When have you seen me write that I am better than everyone, have more experience than anyone, know more than everyone....? That is you😊

Anyone who has bothered to peruse your rambling and self serving posts, knows exactly what I'm talking about. You can try to deflect and deny as much as you like. You aren't even fooling yourself. You know what I write is true.

Take care out there.

54 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

This is exactly the point where I’d be holding back (photo below). It’s obvious the Mazda is either preparing to change into the right lane or is going to swing out a little wide on the turn. There’s no reason to close up on it – and certainly no reason to try to pass or pull level at this stage.

 

Right or wrong, there’s simply no need to risk a minor accident. Even a small bump can leave you without a car for a week, which is a huge inconvenience – and for what? It won’t change the fact that plenty of drivers out there will still drive poorly, skip their indicators, make wide turns, or pull out when they shouldn’t. That’s just the reality of the roads here.

 

We can’t use our horns to “educate” every bad driver. In this case, there was ample time and space to just slow down, give way, and be courteous....

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again ... your picture shows that the mazda will keep to the left lane, which would also be the correct behavior according to traffic rules ... that you claim it is obviously visible in this image that the mazda driver is changing lanes, i find quite an strange statement ...

 

in the left picture below: the mazda driver still gives the impression of continuing in the left lane after turning left , which is the lane intended for him ...

at this point there was no "ample time" anymore (as you claim) for lordgrinz to react ... without quick and good reaction an accident would have happened ...

 

in the right picture below: the mazda driver cuts right in front of lordgrinz ... there isn’t really much more to add, except that the mazda driver created a dangerous and reckless situation and then showed his aggressive character, getting out of the car ask for a fight ...

 

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38 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

That moment seemed to flip him straight into full-on twathead mode.

 

16 minutes ago, JakeC said:

Victim @fredwiggy ? What are you talking? Very strange. I am wholly unconcerned about anything you write about me, as it's all based in your mad imagination. Whereas my observations of your behaviour are spot on.

You fit the profile of a narcissist.

 

A narcissist displays traits of extreme self-importance, a deep need for admiration, manipulative behavior, and a significant lack of empathy for others. While anyone can have narcissistic behaviors, a true narcissist exhibits a maladaptive and enduring personality style, often masking fragile self-esteem with an inflated sense of self. The condition, formally known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), involves a pervasive pattern of these traits that negatively affects relationships and daily functioning, and can be a lifelong struggle for those affected.
 

Key Traits and Behaviors

People who are narcissistic often:

Have a grandiose sense of self-importance: They exaggerate achievements, talents, and believe they are "special". 

Need excessive admiration: They crave constant praise and attention to reinforce their fragile self-worth. 

Lack empathy: They have difficulty recognizing or understanding the feelings and needs of others. 

Exhibit entitlement: They expect special treatment and believe rules don't apply to them. 

Are manipulative and exploitative: They take advantage of others to achieve their own ends. 

Are arrogant and haughty: They have a generally boastful or superior attitude. 

Are sensitive to criticism: Despite their outward confidence, they react poorly to any perceived slight or criticism, which they view as a personal attack. 

Underlying Vulnerability

Behind the inflated and confident exterior, individuals with narcissistic traits often have: 

Fragile self-esteem:

Their arrogance and confidence are a mask to hide deep-seated insecurity and shame. 

Difficulty with responsibility:

They tend to shift blame to others rather than accept responsibility for their own actions. 

Impact on Relationships

Narcissistic behavior affects all areas of life, including work, friendships, and family. People in a narcissist's life may find themselves: Constantly seeking to provide validation, Feeling manipulated or exploited, 

 

Whereas, in a nutshell, a jerk is just a jerk.

@nauseus You are crying out for attention, but no one seems to want to waste much time on you. Take the hint, eh?

I only spent time of fred because he really needs the help. You cannot fix the problem unless you accept that you actually have a problem. But like the OP, there is a tendency to try to shift the blame on to others.

12 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@fredwiggy You are funny. When have you seen me write that I am better than everyone, have more experience than anyone, know more than everyone....? That is you😊

Anyone who has bothered to peruse your rambling and self serving posts, knows exactly what I'm talking about. You can try to deflect and deny as much as you like. You aren't even fooling yourself. You know what I write is true.

Take care out there.

Believe me, you aren't better than anyone. I didn't say you said you were better than anyone, have more experience or know more. Believe me, what you know wouldn't fill a child's pop-up book. 

 

Again you're answering for others. No one in their right minds will back you on this as I've spent years on this forum helping others, and letting them know how I live my life.

 

Some have used this against me because they're very strange people, some of whom keep files on us, some who are jealous that I treat women well and all they can accomplish is a purchase of a bar girl. Some who give advice on how to take care of children, even though they don't have any and can't comment because of that lack of experience.

 

Some who are antisocial and argue with anyone they feel threatens their self esteem with the truth.

 

And some, like you, that are lost in their own heads, assuming they know anything about people from a forum, that are showing the exact traits they accuse others of, then play the innocent, thinking they're actually fooling older expats who have been there before. I know what you write is false, as I have loads of experience seeing right through your type. Liars haven't fooled me for many decades.

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1 minute ago, JakeC said:

@nauseus You are crying out for attention, but no one seems to want to waste much time on you. Take the hint, eh?

 

Wow! Thanks for talking to me. It means so much.

2 minutes ago, JakeC said:

@nauseus You are crying out for attention, but no one seems to want to waste much time on you. Take the hint, eh?

Truth hurts eh? Seems like you have quite a few here you're disagreeing with and thinking they're wrong. Maybe reflect and look inward for a change?

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