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Road Rage (Foreigner Style)

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8 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Who the heck is Ronnie Pickering?  Is it just another local Brit figure? You know, most people outside your closed society (thank God) don´t know about minor things like that.


It's RONNIE PICKERING!!
 

 

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  • To be honest @lordgrinz, I agree with @mancub and think that you precipretated the situation. I'll explain... In Thailand and in fact anywhere, driving is give and take. In other words you allow

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    Yeah, I agree. The man is an idiot and hopefully he'll get a slap one day, but it's hardly a matter for the police. Forget it, move on. And generally don't beep at people, it can be very dangerou

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    That's literally the worst advice you could ever give anyone here.

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13 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:


It's RONNIE PICKERING!!

 

A true classic.

15 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

 

 

Russians and Georgians will kill you and not think twice. Mafia is part of daily life there. It's hard to explain.

So it's not just Thais who don't like to lose face ?

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12 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

A true classic.

Gottfrid Pickering!

@Cameroni "Bubble headed female..."??

Have you had some bad experiences with girls? Did they reject you and only when you arrived in Asia...?

8 minutes ago, Jim Blue said:

So it's not just Thais who don't like to lose face ?

 

I'm not sure it's losing face in Russia, Eastern Europe and the Balkan. I think they're brought up with a different notion of masculinity. If you don't fight you get no respect, even in their own mind.

 

You can feel this vibe in Russia. It's not just for looks like in England or Germany or Australia. In Russia you can feel actually feel the undercurrent of violence everywhere. it's literally everywhere. i went to a restaurant, and there were armed guards outside. At a restaurant! 

 

They live with mafia embedded in their society fabric. Pretty much everyone there knows someone who's a mafia criminal, all normal people have a friend like this. Immoral and criminal acts are par for the course in these countries, from cheating inexams to getting people beat up to open altercations on roads. Why do you think most porn stars are Russian and Russian women are so imoral? Because their men are even more imoral.

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1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

You can feel this vibe in Russia. It's not just for looks like in England or Germany or Australia. In Russia you can feel actually feel the undercurrent of violence everywhere. it's literally everywhere. i went to a restaurant, and there were armed guards outside. At a restaurant! 

 

Watched a Russian youtube channel showing them doing their road rage routine, but was interesting how no matter how big they were, after getting hit in the face  with Pepper Spray they waddled off with their tails between their legs....LOL  

 

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13 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

If you look he turns left into his lane, then turns right again into my bumper. That part made no sense to me.

You could have held back a bit as it's obvious the red car was headed for the right lane. Yeah, you're both behaving dickishly.

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4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

 it's obvious the red car was headed for the right lane.


Which is illegal, and dangerous with traffic coming through the intersection and already in that lane.

12 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Watched a Russian youtube channel showing them doing their road rage routine, but was interesting how no matter how big they were, after getting hit in the face  with Pepper Spray they waddled off with their tails between their legs....LOL  

 

Yah, they wrestle with bears. So they don't mind to get punched in the mouth. It just confirms they're men in their mind.

 

Did you see the US Open just now with Medvedev? He got so annoyed with an umpire call he took on the empire and crowd for 6 minutes. Never been seen before. Almost riot. Never been seen before. Then he came back to win after 2 sets down. Had to be a Russian.

Only dangerous because there was an uncompromising 🤡 passing through. One who had the power to make everything go smoothly and pleasantly, but who chose to not do so. Instead, they made a scene and posted it here...not quite getting the reaction that they hoped for, so then threw yet another hissy fit.

16 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:


Which is illegal, and dangerous with traffic coming through the intersection and already in that lane.

You tried to show dominance by not giving an inch. I get it, sometimes you have to. That particular time was perhaps not the right one.

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17 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

Cut me off, then after beeping at him, he does it again. Then proceeds to block me and my daughter from going home after picking her up from school, then gets out and threatens us, and takes a few punches at my window, this one might get reported to my local police station tomorrow, still deciding.

 

 

With no sound, we don't know how long or hard or how many times you "beeped" at him.

 

He was stopped for pedestrians already on the cross-walk that he was blocked from seeing when he started the turn.

 

You accelerated to stop a taxi cutting you off (so you cut-off the taxi).

 

There were pedestrians on the left side that still hadn't cleared the cross-walk when you accelerated into the gap that you felt entitled to shoot.

 

You aggravated the situation by trying to squeeze past him, overtaking him on the cross-walk.

 

You further aggravated and prolonged your hurt by obviously arguing with the prick.

 

Again, with no sound, there's no telling fully what your interaction was, what 'hand-signals' you exchanged, or even if he punched your window.

 

Yes, the other driver overreacted, but you and only you, created and aggravated the incident.

 

Bottom line: You exposed your daughter to risk.

 

15 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Been here for 9 years, seen all types of idiocy on Thai roads. 

 

Ahh, grasshopper...

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

You tried to show dominance by not giving an inch. I get it, sometimes you have to. That particular time was perhaps not the right one.

 

Did you ever ask yourself why they put solid line on all lanes 10 meters before a Zebra crossing? 

6 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Did you ever ask yourself why they put solid line on all lanes 10 meters before a Zebra crossing? 

 

Did you ever ask yourself "why they put solid line on all lanes 10 meters before a Zebra crossing?"

3 hours ago, JakeC said:

@fredwiggy Your post says a lot about you. Plus...you are wrong. The car on the left is already on the turn and simply waiting for the pedestrians to cross. @lordgrinz is on the other side of the intersection with a clear view of what is happening. 

There was not enough space for @lordgrinz to pass safely, regardless of whether he had right of way or not. The right thing to do was to allow the red car to complete the turn. Pushing through regardless was bad form. The fact that you cannot see that speaks volumes... in telling us why you are unhappy in Thailand

 

Then you ramble on about courtesy...

 

@lordgrinz should have showed that in the first place, rather than to bear down on the red car and to have used his horn. The red car was far ahead and first in line to make his move. The OP should have been courteous and given him space to pull away. Then there would likely have been a thank you hand wave. That's why someone of us thrive in Thailand, where some of you are full of complaints and grievances. 

 

Yes, my post says I go by evidence, and don't put blame where it shouldn't. I can say the same thing about your post, but I would be right.

 

People going straight always have the right of way besides at an intersection with lights. The red car waited for the pedestrians, which he should have, but seemingly neglected to check if anyone was coming so went ahead. He also should have waited for the pedestrians to completely walk past until he moved, That he raised his arms has him thinking he was right, and that Lordgrinz was wrong beeping his horn, which he wasn't. Yes, he could have allowed the red car to go, and go into the left lane, which would be proper. He actually did that, and then pulled in front of Lordgrinz, obviously out of spite, as he continued and then stopped in Lordgrinz's lane, and then started the situation, which makes him wrong more.

 

Saying Lordgrinz was 100% wrong is ludicrous, as we can see with the red car's driver's actions afterwards. We cannot hear the horn, so it may have been just a little beep to prevent an accident with the red car, and not an arrogant leaning on the horn as many do. There are two sides to this, with an equal agreeing with the OP's actions, so it's not something to argue longer for as we weren't there. 

 

My unhappiness in Thailand has nothing to do with this type of situation,as it doesn't have anything to do with locals but another foreigner.  I've long known about the driving conditions in this country, along with the misogynist actions of the males, the terrible schools and how students are treated, how animals are treated, the corruption, lies, scams, attacks 5 against 1, the fact that the majority of girls under 18 are molested in schools, teachers still hit students, and many more things that are plain wrong here.

 

And don't answer for others, because many here know exactly where I'm coming from and see the same things I do. Some thrive here because they hide in villages, away from what really goes on,  and some are here to use women, which isn't anything to be proud of. What I've seen in other's complaints is what really happens here, although some do have rose colored glasses. You and a few others here seem to be blind to the reality of this country, but if you're happy, that's all that matters, as some people can live anywhere, especially if they stay away from the crowds. Some of us are observant, and see it for what it really is.

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14 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

With no sound, we don't know how long or hard or how many times you "beeped" at him.

 

Two tiny beeps, one before he turned back into his lane, the other when he turned right into my fender.

14 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

He was stopped for pedestrians already on the cross-walk that he was blocked from seeing when he started the turn.

 

There is nothing blocking his view, and he should never have turned with them in the crosswalk.

 

14 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

There were pedestrians on the left side that still hadn't cleared the cross-walk when you accelerated into the gap that you felt entitled to shoot.

All pedestrians are off the Zebra crossing long before I even enter the crossing. What gap? Its my lane.

 

14 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

You accelerated to stop a taxi cutting you off (so you cut-off the taxi).

WHAT?! The Taxi is on a side road with a stop line and a Zebra crossing in front of it. 

 

 

 

Ok, for the last time there are two lanes exiting that road, the left one is for the left turn lane where the TAXI and Red car are in (left lane only), they cannot enter the right lane. The right lane coming out of that road is for traffic turning left into the right lane, or to turn right heading the other way.

 

I mean are we even watching the same video? Because you are blatantly lying above.

 

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1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:

Did you go to the police today? What happened?

 

My wife wants to go, but at the moment our schedules are overloaded, not sure if she will want to try tonight, or not. She said non-emergency hours for our local RTP station is 9am-4pm, so we'll see.

2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Ha ha ha, foreigners are the most dangerous people on Thai roads. 

 

So many unhinged 

 

Then why do 95% of the deaths and accidents involve locals? 

So a guy drives with his daughter, some East European bloke gets out of the car to threaten the father in the car and on Aseannow they're arguing who is in the right....lol...you can't make this up.

 

Any other country the Georgian would be in jail now.

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2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

So a guy drives with his daughter, some East European bloke gets out of the car to threaten the father in the car and on Aseannow they're arguing who is in the right....lol...you can't make this up.

 

Any other country the Georgian would be in jail now.

 

Exactly! Blocking me in is false imprisonment, brake checking, not to mention threatening assault, and grabbing his nuts in front of a 9 year old might be considered a deviant sexual act in front of a minor.

3 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

I am leaving a stop sign, one that not a single person other than myself stops for, which as you can see allowed a bundle of cars to turn right through the intersection in front of me. You will also notice the red car turns left while people are crossing in a Zebra crossing, why did he even attempt the left in this scenario? He is supposed to wait for them to cross, not turn into them. You'll also see him move back into his lane when I tooted the horn, no big deal, all seems ok, nope ....he then turns his wheel back to the right pushing his front fender into mine, I toot the horn again, then stop. He finally drives forward down his lane and moves over into mine, all's good, nope..... now he brake checks me and jumps out of the car and attempts to assault us. 

That's what I was alluding to. I didn't hear your horn, but see that he should have waited for the people to finish their crossing before driving towards them. Yes, you could have let him go on his way, but you are going straight so didn't have to stop. His action after this was totally uncalled for. I think some here might have missed what he did and concentrated on you, seeing some aren't from the US and don't understand what right of way means for drivers and pedestrians.

1 minute ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Exactly! Blocking me in is false imprisonment, brake checking, not to mention threatening assault, and grabbing his nuts in front of a 9 year old might be considered a deviant sexual act in front of a minor.

 

Act of public disorder, assault if you or your daughter were in fear of an assault, like I say, he'd be in jail.

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Then why do 95% of the deaths and accidents involve locals? 

Maybe its because the locals "the Thai's are 95% of the drivers. The big question is what percent have a drivers license. I know for motorcycles its less than half the riders nationwide. 

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Goodness @fredwiggy, what a ramble...

 

There are at least SEVEN people who align with my view and just you and @lordgrinz who sees it differently. Doesn't that tell you something? That people like yourself think that your perspective is the only one that counts and so subsequently you don't really get on with anyone.

 

Emotionally intelligent others don't need to fight on every hill and don't see it as a loss to be magnanimous. 

He is ahead of @lordgrinz halfway through a turn. The safest and best way, is to simply take your time until it is safe to proceed, rather than to risk a clash and then have to stand there arguing the toss over who is right.

THIS is the thing that some foreigners don't 'get' about Thailand. In order to promote harmony, it's better to work TOGETHER. It doesn't always matter who is 'right', just avoid making it into a problem if possible. Wave him through with a smile and watch the world smile with you....or be a selfish arse who thinks they are right about everything and so instead plough on dangerously through sheer bloody-mindedness.

You should look that up. It describes the OP perfectly.

No need for another ramble. Just keep to the point.

 

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Just now, marin said:

Maybe its because the locals "the Thai's are 95% of the drivers. The big question is what percent have a drivers license. I know for motorcycles its less than half the riders nationwide. 

 

I remember a news article not long ago that stated something like 35% drive with no license, scary!

1 minute ago, marin said:

Maybe its because the locals "the Thai's are 95% of the drivers. The big question is what percent have a drivers license. I know for motorcycles its less than half the riders nationwide. 

I just don't like when some are always on the foreigners case when the majority of what goes on here with accidents and all other crime involves locals. Yes, their numbers are much higher, but even per capita the foreigners that live here aren't the troublemaker. Tourists are a different matter.

2 minutes ago, JakeC said:

Goodness @fredwiggy, what a ramble...

 

There are at least SEVEN people who align with my view and just you and @lordgrinz who sees it differently. Doesn't that tell you something? That people like yourself think that your perspective is the only one that counts and so subsequently you don't really get on with anyone.

 

Emotionally intelligent others don't need to fight on every hill and don't see it as a loss to be magnanimous. 

He is ahead of @lordgrinz halfway through a turn. The safe way to proceed is to simply take your time until it is safe to proceed, rather than to risk a clash and then have to stand there arguing the toss over who is right.

THIS is the thing that foreigners don't 'get' about Thailand. In order to promote harmony, it's better to work TOGETHER. Wave him through with a smile and watch the world smile with you....or be a selfish arse who thinks they are right about everything and so instead plough on dangerously through sheer bloody-mindedness.

You should look that up. It describes the OP perfectly.

No need for another ramble. Just keep to the point.

 

No, there are at least 5 that agreed with him, and majority means nothing anyway, as many can be wrong while the few can be right. Are you actually sticking up for the other driver's actions? That would tell a lot about you. I didn't say the OP couldn't have stopped and let the red car go, but that he had the right of way and the red car was turning into the pedestrians instead of allowing them to finish crossing before moving. if he did that, this would not have happened.

 

By the way, I'm very courteous to all drivers, no matter where I'm driving, and give them the benefit of the doubt if they're driving faster than legal and going in and out of traffic, as long as they aren't putting myself and my child in danger. Some people have reasons they're going very fast. Maybe their family is at the hospital after an accident, maybe they just lost someone and are hurting. Maybe they're late for an appointment. Who knows, so you let them go, again, as long as they're not driving where another can be hurt.

 

Pedestrians always have the right of way besides on highways and at lights. that it isn't practiced here is why so many get hit by cars every week. 

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