5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Always classy the left. 

 

 

You mean like this?

 

 

 

Or like this?

 

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Trump blames 'radical left political violence' for killing of Charlie Kirk, fails to mention killing of Democratic lawmaker in Minnesota

 

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In Oval Office address, Trump vows retribution, but neglects to mention murder of Melissa Hortman, attack on Paul Pelosi and threats to Mike Pence

 

Just now, BKKKevin said:

Utah, a state with one of the highest rates of gun ownership, and one of the lowest rates of violent crime in the US.

 

No doubt the left is celebrating the death of a young, bright, effective communicator. 

 

RIP young man, 

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

He is one of us. He speaks for many of us. Sorry you cant cut off his speech? One of your ilk may have.

 

Yep. Hes right. And your point is typical of the ilk that probably shot him.

 

The suspect is not in custody. 

From what I have seen of him, you are nothing like him how you have acted and described yourself on this forum. 

 

The crazy thing is, many who associate themselves with Kirk and Donald, have a wrong image of themselves compared to their hero’s. 

 

anyway, sad to see Kirk shot down and die, and will just make the hate worse, as we now see from the comments here by the right wings. 

 

I have read on the forum they hoped Greta Thunberg was bombed on her way to Gaza, same thing, where extremists on each sides wish death and horror on their outer sides opponents. 

Saw somebody point out that both Turning Point USA co-founders have now died  - Kirk was killed by gun violence and the other guy died from COVID and he was against masks. 

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Utah, a state with one of the highest rates of gun ownership, and one of the lowest rates of violent crime in the US.

 

No doubt the left is celebrating the death of a young, bright, effective communicator. 

 

RIP young man, 

Extremists celebrating the death of him, even Im not a left, I understand the difference between being left or rigthwing and extremists

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

From what I have seen of him, you are nothing like him how you have acted and described yourself on this forum. 

 

The crazy thing is, many who associate themselves with Kirk and Donald, have a wrong image of themselves compared to their hero’s. 

 

anyway, sad to see Kirk shot down and die, and will just make the hate worse, as we now see from the comments here by the right wings. 

 

I have read on the forum they hoped Greta Thunberg was bombed on her way to Gaza, same thing, where extremists on each sides wish death and horror on their outer sides opponents. 

We disagree on Ukraine but great words here. Thanks. 

Just seen a video of a guy getting searched, arrested and put in the back of a Police car. One of the objects shown was a rifle. Will try to find the video again.

33 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

where does that come from? I see the right wing as people who basically want to be left alone and pay lower taxes, not be flooded with illegal immigrants etc.... The left wing however always has grand political motivations and want sweeping changes to the system in order to upset existing power structures. Of the two sides one clearly has greater motivations to commit political violence.

This is just one reputable site supporting how right wing activists are significantly more violent, as well as owning guns 2 to 1 compared to left wing.

https://ccjs.umd.edu/feature/umd-led-study-shows-disparities-violence-among-extremist-groups

42 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

So you don't know that Ben, Milo and Charlie were the target of violence from the left.

 

What a bizarre posting from you.

Maybe they are, but your statement was that “Every outspoken right winger is the target of violence.”

 

I doubt you have evidence that this is true or that outspoken right wingers are subjected to threats of violence more than outspoken left wingers.

 

There have been two political assassinations this year in the U.S., the first victim was a Democrat. 

18 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

What part of the body is easier to hit? Torso or head? I have seen SWAT team sniper  aim for the head.

NB Butler PA would-be assassin:

 

Crooks was then killed by a member of the Secret Service Counter Sniper Team; the cause of death was a single gunshot wound to the head.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Matthew_Crooks

56 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Most political violence in the U.S. comes from the right.

 

No most political violence comes from the left. It always came from the left. The left was born out of violence, the 1848 protests, the Russian revolution, the 1930s and of course ANTIFA today.

 

Most likely the person who killed Kirk is an ANTIFA member. The left have always been viciously violent. All the heroes of the left, Che Guevara, Castro, Trotsky, Lenin, Mao, all vicious violent killers.

 

Fascism was a REACTION against the vicious violence of the left. Much like Trumpism is a reaction against the excesses of the woke left.

27 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

What part of the body is easier to hit? Torso or head? I have seen SWAT team sniper  aim for the head.  Also, I have talked to a military snipers has aimed for the head.  Why target the head? Where woud one aim if the enemy or suspect was a suicide bomber? Impacting the torso might not be the best idea. Also, the shooter was in an elevated position. The angle to hit the torsoe would be more difficult than aiming for the head. A straight and level shot would mean a center torso shot would have been more appropriate. 

 

Police snipers aim for the head. Military snipers ALWAYS aim for the chest.

 

 

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu shares his condolences

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu added his voice to the chorus of elected officials expressing thier grief over Charlie Kirk's death.

'Charlie Kirk was murdered for speaking truth and defending freedom,' he posted on social media.

'A lion-hearted friend of Israel, he fought the lies and stood tall for Judeo-Christian civilization.'

Netanyahu added that he 'spoke to him only two weeks ago and invited him to Israel. Sadly, that visit will not take place.

'We lost an incredible human being. His boundless pride in America and his valiant belief in free speech will leave a lasting impact. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk.'

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15085851/Charlie-Kirk-shot-uvu-shooting-Utah-campus-1-1.html

5 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

This is just one reputable site supporting how right wing activists are significantly more violent, as well as owning guns 2 to 1 compared to left wing.

https://ccjs.umd.edu/feature/umd-led-study-shows-disparities-violence-among-extremist-groups

Yet the link, as is typical with leftist posts, does not support your claim. The "study" says no such thing.

 

From your link:

 

"After narrowing down the dataset to only include serious acts committed by people pledging allegiance to a group that can be classified as left-wing, right-wing or Islamist extremist..."

 

And yeah, if the left had more guns than the right, they would not be trying to take them.

 

 

Is this the sort of "violent rhetoric" MAGA are suddenly all up in arms about?

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/pence-details-jan-6-falling-out-with-trump-in-new-memoir

 

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In “So Help Me God,” Pence recounts, for the first time in his own words, the Republican former president’s extraordinary effort to push him to overturn the results of the 2020 election and shares his account of the day thousands of rioters stormed the Capitol, with some chanting “Hang Mike Pence.”

 

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The House committee that investigated the attack said in its final report that “the President of the United States had riled up a mob that hunted his own Vice President.”

https://apnews.com/article/pence-trump-january-6-capitol-riot-carlson-1e38cb44d55737031ca528b4f33aa1fb

 

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“President Trump was wrong,” Pence said during remarks at the annual white-tie Gridiron Dinner attended by politicians and journalists. “I had no right to overturn the election. And his reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol that day, and I know history will hold Donald Trump accountable.”

 

Anarchist/left-wing violent extremism, often referred to in United States government parlance with the catch-all term “anarchist violent extremism” (AVE), has a long-standing history in the U.S. 

 

A recent Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) joint report that reviewed significant domestic terrorism incidents in the U.S. between 2015 and 2019 found that AVEs were among the extremist groups “presenting the greatest threats of violence.” Reviewing these incidents and charting the potential for future escalation of AVE-related attacks, this paper highlights three trends:

Violence committed by AVEs in this period was largely locally organized, event-driven, and/or opportunistic. However, individual AVEs inspired by the movement and its ideologies also planned mass-casualty terrorist attacks, predominantly against law enforcement, private property, and those they associate with opposing violent extremist groups.

 

https://extremism.gwu.edu/anarchistleft-wing-violent-extremism-america

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Maybe they are, but your statement was that “Every outspoken right winger is the target of violence.”

 

I doubt you have evidence that this is true or that outspoken right wingers are subjected to threats of violence more tan outspoken left wingers.

 

There have been two political assassinations this year in the U.S., the first victim was a Democrat. 

Which outspoken right wingers dont get hate?

Because it’s America, where violence begets more violence, it’s a sad bet there will be more shootings in the next week or two. Will we see the same outrage from the right when it’s a progressive news person or talk show host or podcaster or politician?

 

We have a guy on this site---who has admitted he’s old and obese---calling for a  'counterrevolution', whatever that means. Okay, you first, Rambo.

 

Rather than try to calm things and bring sides together, Trump is going off on his usual 'deranged' Dem rants.

 

I recall when Speaker Pelosi’s husband was beaten with a hammer by a MAGA, a couple people on Fox made jokes about it. Right wing podcasters spoke of an old Peter, Paul & Mary song from the 1960s.

 

I've already noted the vast difference in rightist (lack of) outrage when a Trumper slaughters innocents, or tries to do so. People directly radicalized and inspired by Trump---like the El Paso murderer, the Pittsburgh synagogue murderer, and the guy who sent bombs to people Trump specifically named as enemies---do not result in the same rightist outrage or calls for 'counterevolution'. That's called hypocrisy. Let's not forget Trump pardoned the people who wanted to hang his own Vice President, and wants a military funeral for a terrorist who attacked the Capitol.

 

I also recall a different Republican President, after the attacks occurring 24 years ago today, trying to calm things by visiting a mosque. THAT is how to lay blame only where it belongs, plus try to get in the way of any revenge killings of innocents. For all the criticism Bush II might have gotten for some of his actions, he has infinitely more class than Trump will ever have.

 

50 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, it means the exact opposite. Skilled military snipers NEVER EVER target the head or neck. They target the chest. The neck shot means this is a non-military amateur.

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No most political violence comes from the left. It always came from the left. The left was born out of violence, the 1848 protests, the Russian revolution, the 1930s and of course ANTIFA today.

 

Most likely the person who killed Kirk is an ANTIFA member. The left have always been viciously violent. All the heroes of the left, Che Guevara, Castro, Trotsky, Lenin, Mao, all vicious violent killers.

 

Fascism was a REACTION against the vicious violence of the left. Much like Trumpism is a reaction against the excesses of the woke left.

Opposition will always be at the other end, and now we see the right wing had enough with the left wing, so what we see today, is because of false democracy where people have been left out, and feel they do not have their rights anymore, or also being taken advantage of when government fails to do their job

 

The French and Russian revolution was a class revolution where the masses had been extorted to long and also unfair treatment and no legal rights. 

 

These comes and goes and just wait when everything is controlled by AI tools, and we cant even think anything wrong before we wil be detained. 

1 minute ago, Wingate said:

Because it’s America, where violence begets more violence, it’s a sad bet there will be more shootings in the next week or two.

 

Won't take a week, this just in:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/colorado-evergreen-high-school-shooting-b2824195.html

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Rightist scum?

 

 

Deflection

2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Mossad is Israeli.

This is unsupported BS - basically saying the jews did it. 

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Opposition will always be at the other end, and now we see the right wing had enough with the left wing, so what we see today, is because of false democracy where people have been left out, and feel they do not have their rights anymore, or also being taken advantage of when government fails to do their job

 

The French and Russian revolution was a class revolution where the masses had been extorted to long and also unfair treatment and no legal rights. 

 

These comes and goes and just wait when everything is controlled by AI tools, and we cant even think anything wrong before we wil be detained. 

 

The real tragedy is that the right has finally excercised its democratic rights, and took the country back from the woke ,pro-trans, pro LGBT, pro DEI, pro immigration left, however, leftist extremists can't accept the democratic process and are resorting to deadly violence to impose their twisted and false ideology.

 

Targeted assassination is not a political right. It's a crime. 

 

And the person responsible will be found and punished. And it will be clear he is not "Mossad" not an experienced military man, but yet another leftie loser.

Just now, beautifulthailand99 said:

This is unsupported BS - basically saying the jews did it. 

If you want to go full on conspiracy theory, who had most to win by eliminating Kirk, and blaim the left? 

 

Think about it, left have nothing to gain by eliminating their opponents, it will just make it worse and more sympathy for the right. 

 

This is most likely a hate murder, and nothing else, but still the conspiracy will live

11 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Which outspoken right wingers dont get hate?

It’s you who claimed without evidence that they are all subjected to hate.

 

I’ve said I have no idea if that is true.

 

It’s now for you to produce the evidence to substantiate the claim you made.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

The real tragedy is that the right has finally excercised its democratic rights, and took the country back from the woke ,pro-trans, pro LGBT, pro DEI, pro immigration left, however, leftist extremists can't accept the democratic process and are resorting to deadly violence to impose their twisted and false ideology.

 

Targeted assassination is not a political right. It's a crime. 

 

And the person responsible will be found and punished. And it will be clear he is not "Mossad" not an experienced military man, but yet another leftie loser.

 

You might be right, and you might be wrong, but still the hate is very much alive and you are one part who feeding it right now 

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

The real tragedy is that the right has finally excercised its democratic rights, and took the country back from the woke ,pro-trans, pro LGBT, pro DEI, pro immigration left, however, leftist extremists can't accept the democratic process and are resorting to deadly violence to impose their twisted and false ideology.

 

Targeted assassination is not a political right. It's a crime. 

 

And the person responsible will be found and punished. And it will be clear he is not "Mossad" not an experienced military man, but yet another leftie loser.

If you have evidence on who the shooter was send it to the FBI.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s you who claimed without evidence that they are all subjected to hate.

 

I’ve said I have no idea if that is true.

 

It’s now for you to produce the evidence to substantiate the claim you made.

 

 

So you can't name any. Thought so. You are beaten again.