9 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I am not an immigrant, I am an expat. But yes I have assimilated to a large extent. Speak Thai, work for a Thai limited company, pay income tax to the Thai government, own a Thai condo, Thai GF and friends as well as foreign friends, live in a mostly Thai suburb of BKK, eat Thai food, enjoy a draft Singh occasionally. 

 

Is that sufficient for you?

No need to spit the dummy; my main point was you are confusing “assimilate” with “integrate”. 
Ah, so when brown people move for opportunity they’re “immigrants’, but when you do it, you’re an ‘expat’? Colonial arrogance dies hard, huh. You didn’t land, you immigrated. 

Your homework is to look up assimilate and integrate, and also immigrant. I’ll help - an immigrant - a person living in a country other than that of his or her birth.

26 minutes ago, RobKray said:

No need to spit the dummy; my main point was you are confusing “assimilate” with “integrate”. 
Ah, so when brown people move for opportunity they’re “immigrants’, but when you do it, you’re an ‘expat’? Colonial arrogance dies hard, huh. You didn’t land, you immigrated. 

Your homework is to look up assimilate and integrate, and also immigrant. I’ll help - an immigrant - a person living in a country other than that of his or her birth.

Let me guess, public schools? English major?

 

(just kidding) 

 

So you think Integration is the way in the UK RobKray, well most of the problems in the UK are caused my Muslims mostly. Let me give you some things to think about before you think we should look at more than Muslims. ALL the Rape Gangs ( Grooming Gangs ) are Muslim all British Pakistanis. All the Terrorist Attacks in london and Other parts such as the Manchester Arena was commited my Muslims, A Head Master in a School in Batley had to move his entire family to a safe location due to Death threats by Muslim parents demonstrating outside his School. Demanding HAL AL meat in supermarkets and in some Northern areas of the UK  Sharia Courts are allowed. and you think they want to integrate with the UK population.

8 hours ago, RobKray said:

I agree with much of what you say. I didn’t realize posters here are so vehemently opposed to Muslims. There are loads of other religions amongst immigrants.

 

i think if you were to check the religion followed by the illegal immigrants to the UK the result would show that 70% or more are Muslims

There are other religions amongst them , but the other religions do not have a history of violence against us. Yes we know they are not all muslims are terrorists, but as its impossible to tell who is and who isn't, we are naturally wary of them all, Rightly or wrongly that's how it is 

7 hours ago, Kinnock said:

 

However there are concerns within NATO and the UN that the geneva convention may have been seriously broken  following horrendous and sickening reports of "mis-gendering"    However LGBGGTJNB+ volunteers have been providing counselling and support following the establishment of a "safe space" 

8 hours ago, RobKray said:

No need to spit the dummy; my main point was you are confusing “assimilate” with “integrate”. 
Ah, so when brown people move for opportunity they’re “immigrants’, but when you do it, you’re an ‘expat’? Colonial arrogance dies hard, huh. You didn’t land, you immigrated. 

Your homework is to look up assimilate and integrate, and also immigrant. I’ll help - an immigrant - a person living in a country other than that of his or her birth.

 

It's always amusing when lefties try to blur the lines between immigrant and expat. 😃

 

I suggest you learn the difference "RobKray", although I suspect I already educated 'you' on this a few months back. You can start here.

 

 

As someone who was invited (nay, persuaded) to come here to work for a UK company to assist setting up a factory in Thailand, I am most definitely an expat. I am not seeking permanent residency or citizenship, I'm quite happy with my LTR non-immigrant visa (note - the clue is in the name NON-immigrant).  

 

I suspect you are another lefty economic migrant who overlooks the human rights issues here in Thailand because the [cough] "services" are cheap, but maybe it's best you don't project your own inadequacies/failures/hypocrisy onto others. 

20 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

It's always amusing when lefties try to blur the lines between immigrant and expat. 😃

 

I suggest you learn the difference "RobKray", although I suspect I already educated 'you' on this a few months back. You can start here.

 

 

As someone who was invited (nay, persuaded) to come here to work for a UK company to assist setting up a factory in Thailand, I am most definitely an expat. I am not seeking permanent residency or citizenship, I'm quite happy with my LTR non-immigrant visa (note - the clue is in the name NON-immigrant).  

 

I suspect you are another lefty economic migrant who overlooks the human rights issues here in Thailand because the [cough] "services" are cheap, but maybe it's best you don't project your own inadequacies/failures/hypocrisy onto others. 

At last, I can agree with you!  The Thai government is very careful to label most of us "non-immigrants", no matter how long we may have lived here.  That said, technically asylum seekers/refugees are not "immigrants" as they will, or should, return to their home country when they can. 

11 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

So you'd like the UK to copy Thailand and make it easier for immigration? Ok then, but it kind of defeats your anti-immigrant mindset.

 

 

I am not against immigration.

 

I want a sensible immigration policy, properly implemented. 

 

I don't want any illegal immigrants 

 

Now that sounds a lot like Thailand, who I suggest the UK government looks at as a start point for immigration policy.

 

Perhaps the UK should also consider a dual pricing policy...........

12 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

Now that sounds a lot like Thailand, who I suggest the UK government looks at as a start point for immigration policy.

 

I'd like the UK to model it's immigration detention facilities on the IDC in Bangkok also.

 

Maybe not quite as comfortable as the one in Bangkok, but at least a similar level.  

 

It would be a good deterrent for those who already made it to a safe country (France) to stay there. 

On 9/14/2025 at 6:14 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

Two bunches of thugs competing for attention.  Not surprising there was violence.  You have to feel sorry for the police.

The police ?  I have to say that many of the police looked like kids or choir boys . Then there were the women police , many of whom looked very young , vulnerable and scared . Nothing like the police of old when I was  living in the UK . Farage has the right idea saying that ex military would make good police . 

There is a police recruitment drive in the UK but as fast as there are recruits , at the same time there are many long term experienced police leaving , because of static wages and dangers in their day to day work . The condition of the UK has deteriorated to an abyss that has all the ingredients for a revolution . UK indigenous folks are being treated like second class citizens but illegal immigrants , invaders and over stayers are given special treatment with some cases of compensation of £ 100,000 for being deported etc . They are causing housing shortages , overwhelming the NHS , making doctors appointments impossible with the crime rates soaring , especially shop lifting and working in the black economy thus paying no taxes but claiming benefits .

43 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I'd like the UK to model it's immigration detention facilities on the IDC in Bangkok also.

 

Maybe not quite as comfortable as the one in Bangkok, but at least a similar level.  

 

It would be a good deterrent for those who already made it to a safe country (France) to stay there. 

 

 

The 'international community' (whatever that is supposed to be) needs to take collective responsibility for correctly dealing with refugees and illegals.

Of the 25 that were arrested in London, where violence erupted, caused by the nasty Right Wingers.

 

9 were from the main event, the right wingers

 

16 were from the supporting act, the Unions and anti-fascists.

 

Let the howls commence 😀😀

A interesting video from Saturdays Freedom March. Notice the hidden faces and the welcome this young lad recieves from the Far right Anti Migrant Squad and the chants, I know who caused the trouble but judge for yourselves. Watch the 1st 5 minutes.

 

 

9 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

So you think Integration is the way in the UK RobKray, well most of the problems in the UK are caused my Muslims mostly.

I never said that, all I did was point out the difference between assimilation and integration 🙂

I read something recently that said most rapes in England were by white males. 
We can’t ban immigrants because of their religion, that would be illegal.
 

A lot of Muslims do not or wont Integrate they want and have Muslim only Schools where the koran is taught. There kids are taught from very young Christian values are being fazed out. Nativity plays are banned in most Schools yet EID Festivals are Encouraged.

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

It's always amusing when lefties try to blur the lines between immigrant and expat. 😃

 

I suggest you learn the difference "RobKray", although I suspect I already educated 'you' on this a few months back. You can start here.

 

 

As someone who was invited (nay, persuaded) to come here to work for a UK company to assist setting up a factory in Thailand, I am most definitely an expat. I am not seeking permanent residency or citizenship, I'm quite happy with my LTR non-immigrant visa (note - the clue is in the name NON-immigrant).  

 

I suspect you are another lefty economic migrant who overlooks the human rights issues here in Thailand because the [cough] "services" are cheap, but maybe it's best you don't project your own inadequacies/failures/hypocrisy onto others. 

So you are a migrant factory worker.

How double dare you to insult me as a sex immigrant, with inadequacies. I came here to study Buddhism.

You are thinking anyone who doesn’t parrot your views is a ‘lefty’ , grow up.
I back Trump and vote Reform because they challenge the establishment. If that’s what you call ‘left,’ you’ve completely lost the plot.

You, sir are a prime example of why the country is so polarized. Try meditation, it might help you integrate into society too, or is that below you?

2 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

A lot of Muslims do not or wont Integrate they want and have Muslim only Schools where the koran is taught. There kids are taught from very young Christian values are being fazed out. Nativity plays are banned in most Schools yet EID Festivals are Encouraged.

Was similar in my school many years ago, except change Muslims to Irish Catholics.

13 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Let me guess, public schools? English major?

 

(just kidding) 

Nearly 😂

10 minutes ago, RobKray said:

I never said that, all I did was point out the difference between assimilation and integration 🙂

I read something recently that said most rapes in England were by white males. 
We can’t ban immigrants because of their religion, that would be illegal.
 

You also said immigration meant anyone living in a foreign country 

 

Sure, more rapes are committed by white men, but there are many more white men, in the same way that men with two legs commit more crimes than men with one leg.

 

I think the argument is that male, Muslim immigrants commit a disproportionate number of rapes. 

There was a few hundred thousand from what I saw. To blame Tommy Robinson for any outbreaks is ridiculous. Notting Hill festival had far more violent attacks but was never reported by the main stream media.

Your Deflecting RobKray, if your a true Christian why do you support Budism as oposed to go to a C of E Church service.

13 minutes ago, RobKray said:

So you are a migrant factory worker.

 

Expat working for a multi-national exporter. 

 

13 minutes ago, RobKray said:

How double dare you to insult me as a sex immigrant, with inadequacies. I came here to study Buddhism.

 

I believe the term is sexpat. Although rubbing your beer belly on soi 6 hardly qualifies for that.  

 

13 minutes ago, RobKray said:

You are thinking anyone who doesn’t parrot your views is a ‘lefty’ , grow up.
I back Trump and vote Reform because they challenge the establishment. If that’s what you call ‘left,’ you’ve completely lost the plot.

 

Righto. A Pro immigration Reform/Trump supporter. Got it. 

 

13 minutes ago, RobKray said:

You, sir are a prime example of why the country is so polarized. Try meditation, it might help you integrate into society too, or is that below you?

 

I prefer Tai Chi to meditation. 

 

You sound stressed though. Lucky for you I think there's a LB massage next soi up on soi 7. Go flaunt those intersectionality credentials. 

31 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

There was a few hundred thousand from what I saw. To blame Tommy Robinson for any outbreaks is ridiculous. Notting Hill festival had far more violent attacks but was never reported by the main stream media.

 

A good point. 

 

This year's Notting Hill Carnival had "far fewer" incidents of serious violence than in recent years, the Metropolitan Police has said.

As of Monday evening, there had been 423 arrests over two days. There were two stabbings, but the Met said neither led to serious injury. 

Last year, eight people were stabbed, leaving one person dead. Another person was killed in a separate attack.

Met Assistant Commissioner Matt Ward said the use of live facial recognition, metal detectors and stop-and-search had "prevented some of the serious violence we have seen at previous carnivals".

There were 223 arrests on Monday, the day of the adult parade, and 200 on Sunday. 

The most common was for cannabis possession (70), possession of an offensive weapon (46), and drug supply (44). The police recorded 18 sexual offences and five robberies.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpdj7lnx40xo

 

2 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

 

A good point. 

 

 

This year's Notting Hill Carnival had "far fewer" incidents of serious violence than in recent years, the Metropolitan Police has said.

As of Monday evening, there had been 423 arrests over two days. There were two stabbings, but the Met said neither led to serious injury. 

Last year, eight people were stabbed, leaving one person dead. Another person was killed in a separate attack.

Met Assistant Commissioner Matt Ward said the use of live facial recognition, metal detectors and stop-and-search had "prevented some of the serious violence we have seen at previous carnivals".

There were 223 arrests on Monday, the day of the adult parade, and 200 on Sunday. 

The most common was for cannabis possession (70), possession of an offensive weapon (46), and drug supply (44). The police recorded 18 sexual offences and five robberies.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpdj7lnx40xo

 

40 police were injured. That is nothing? 

15 hours ago, RobKray said:

Ah, so when brown people move for opportunity they’re “immigrants’, but when you do it, you’re an ‘expat’? Colonial arrogance dies hard, huh. You didn’t land, you immigrated. 

It's nothing to do with skin colour or 'colonial arrogance' and all to do with legality.

 

Continuing to allow tens of thousands of people - brown, black, yellow, pink, blue ... colour is irrelevant - to float across the Channel annually, and then stay in UK at taxpayers' expense, is untenable. 

 

These are ILLEGAL immigrants, regardless of what motivates them. 

 

The Conservatives failed; now Labour are doing the same. Hence the strength of public opinion which led to the weekend's march. The government does itself no favours by trying to characterise anyone who objects to untrammelled ILLEGAL immigration as 'Far Right'.

 

'Stop The Boats' ... 'Smash The Gangs'. Empty words.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/12/more-than-50000-people-crossed-channel-in-small-boats-since-labour-took-power

 

 

 

24 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

It's nothing to do with skin colour or 'colonial arrogance' and all to do with legality.

 

Continuing to allow tens of thousands of people - brown, black, yellow, pink, blue ... colour is irrelevant - to float across the Channel annually, and then stay in UK at taxpayers' expense, is untenable. 

 

These are ILLEGAL immigrants, regardless of what motivates them. 

 

The Conservatives failed; now Labour are doing the same. Hence the strength of public opinion which led to the weekend's march. The government does itself no favours by trying to characterise anyone who objects to untrammelled ILLEGAL immigration as 'Far Right'.

 

'Stop The Boats' ... 'Smash The Gangs'. Empty words.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/12/more-than-50000-people-crossed-channel-in-small-boats-since-labour-took-power

 

 

 

it always amuses me when they refer to those organising the boats as   "evil" "vile"  or "people traffickers"  The reality is nobody is dragged kicking and screaming into a boat, the go willingly' The "evil people smugglers" are actually providing a valued service to the illegals.

However all along the french coast are "service centers" staffed by british leftists the sole purpose of which is to provide assistance and support to the would be illegals ,  including advice on how to avoid the authorities and guidance on finding illegal employment in the UK etc etc 

Not one word of criticism has been directed at these people by either the government , the immigration authorities or of course the media who, with the exception of GB News are maintaining a silence on the  issue

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

You also said immigration meant anyone living in a foreign country 

 

Sure, more rapes are committed by white men, but there are many more white men, in the same way that men with two legs commit more crimes than men with one leg.

 

I think the argument is that male, Muslim immigrants commit a disproportionate number of rapes. 

There are many stats online.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a820725e5274a2e87dc0c4f/number-convicted-sexual-offenders-by-ethnicity-tables.xlsx

2 minutes ago, RobKray said:

There are many stats online.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a820725e5274a2e87dc0c4f/number-convicted-sexual-offenders-by-ethnicity-tables.xlsx

Wow, I was right, thanks!

3 hours ago, BKKBike09 said:

It's nothing to do with skin colour or 'colonial arrogance' and all to do with legality.

 

Continuing to allow tens of thousands of people - brown, black, yellow, pink, blue ... colour is irrelevant - to float across the Channel annually, and then stay in UK at taxpayers' expense, is untenable. 

 

These are ILLEGAL immigrants, regardless of what motivates them. 

The post I replied to was about colonial arrogance. Why are people assuming I am pro illegal immigration, I am not! I am against Islamic hate, which seems to upset people here.
I agree with, ALL illegal immigrants should be put in a jail in Rwandan or a Trump like alligator jail.