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We're all old, why does nobody want to talk about death?

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2 minutes ago, IsaanT said:


I guess we're different people with different circumstances.  I've been retired in Thailand for three years now and the time has flown by.

A definition of a poor retirement is not having any particular reason or motive to get up in the morning.  I am half-way through building a house I designed, I've just started planting an orchard (aim: 100 fruit trees of many different varieties), I have hundreds of fish to feed (and catch to eat) in my lake, two young boys to get to school in the morning, and a great partner.

I have many reasons to enjoy life.
 

Absolutely right, it's a shame we have some miserable old death wishers on here, go through life finding fault with everything, even who they live with....😟

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    When the reaper decides it's time, there is nothing you can do. I am not afraid of death. Don't think about it much. I've had a good life. I won't do chemo, and if the time comes, so be it. 

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@BritManToo, this might amuse you.

My bricklayers have just built me a three-bay compost shed (my fruit trees are going to need some goodness).  It's a week old and I've already starting filling the first bay with rice straw and cow dung.

It's an interesting circular cycle with the cow dung because our village headman cuts all the long grass on my land to feed to his cows.  I am now going to his cow shed to shovel up the dung to recycle on my land again as compost.  So, in three years I have gone from being an IT executive to a sh*t-shoveller!  Happy days! 😄

 

p.s. I've added a pic of my fish pond.  What's not to like about life?

 

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"Live like you'll die tomorrow, plan like you'll live forever."

9 minutes ago, farangkinok said:

 

RIP Sundance 

It isn't really about how long we live but how well we live the last years of our life .

Beeing independent is a priority for me and I am working to keep my body n mind in good shape to be able to enjoy the years to come . 

8 hours ago, WDSmart said:

You'll never know if I was right or wrong about death, because when you die, there is no you. There is nothing.

Of course, but if there is life after death, you won't have to wait long for an answer LOL. The second your temporal existence ends, your afterlife begins. I might see you there...

You wannna talk about death?

 

Sure.

 

No problemo.

 

 

I love this film.

 

This is the SUPREME discussion of DEATH.....

 

Let's talk about it....

 

OK?

 

 

On 9/21/2025 at 8:39 AM, BritManToo said:
On 9/21/2025 at 8:38 AM, Nemises said:

At 70 I freely admit that the best chapter of my life has just begun

But it's likely to be a very short chapter.

How much longer are you expecting?

@ 70 ..  I'm in way better shape than I was when I was  50 .... wake up every morning and say Thank you before my feet hit the floor !

 Got my wife and my son covered for..   tomorrow's..    so ...

Short  True story ..    when I was about 35 I went on a 2 week vacation .   somewhere about day #20  my employer called me and said where are you,   why are you not back here yet ? .     my reply ..    I ain't done yet !

Now at 70 ,       the same holds true ..  I ain't done yet .    and 100 seems like a fair target !

On 9/20/2025 at 7:52 PM, Henk Langeweg said:

In my opinion it's just the big nothing and so there's nothing to worry about.

 

Possibility #1:

When you die you will be bombarded with deceitful entities posing as your dead loved ones / friends / relations / etc.

 

Their goal is to trick you into going thru the light tunnel. (Don't go to the light unless you really want to reincarnate again on earth... there is no telling what kind of life condition you'll have)

 

If you enter the light tunnel you will be recycled back to earth in a new body, your memories of your just lived life wiped clean.

 

Possibility #2:

You blink out into eternal blackness, eternal oblivion.

On 9/20/2025 at 8:47 PM, Harrisfan said:

Death is great. No worries. No hassles. 

 

Well..... if the reincarnation / soul trick is true, then there could be PLENTY of worry and hassle to come.

36 minutes ago, Woke to Sounds said:

 

Possibility #1:

When you die you will be bombarded with deceitful entities posing as your dead loved ones / friends / relations / etc.

 

Their goal is to trick you into going thru the light tunnel. (Don't go to the light unless you really want to reincarnate again on earth... there is no telling what kind of life condition you'll have)

 

If you enter the light tunnel you will be recycled back to earth in a new body, your memories of your just lived life wiped clean.

 

Possibility #2:

You blink out into eternal blackness, eternal oblivion.

My guess I will never realize that i'm dead because that is what death is, like a computer without UPS and storage, just volatile memory, losing it's power.

So I agree with #2.

1 hour ago, Woke to Sounds said:

If you enter the light tunnel you will be recycled back to earth in a new body, your memories of your just lived life wiped clean. 

Possibility #2:

You blink out into eternal blackness, eternal oblivion.

If your previous memories are wiped (of your just lived life), it's no longer you, so what happens is irrelevant (to you). It's exactly the same outcome as possibility #2.

1 hour ago, Henk Langeweg said:

My guess I will never realize that i'm dead because that is what death is, like a computer without UPS and storage, just volatile memory, losing it's power.

So I agree with #2.

Or possibility#3. You die, then go to heaven if you're  believer in God, and to a not so nice place if you don't. If there was reincarnation, there would be millions of people remembering what their past lives were, and it wouldn't matter how you lived your life, let the next life deal with it, which would take away possibility #3, where you only get one chance to do things right. 

On 9/21/2025 at 9:47 AM, Harrisfan said:

Death is great. No worries. No hassles. 

 

There is a problem with this notion. You won't be able to enjoy your worry-free, no-hassle life. The world only exists through your conscious mind; it's hard to comprehend non-existence.

6 hours ago, Luuk Chaai said:

@ 70 ..  I'm in way better shape than I was when I was  50 .... wake up every morning and say Thank you before my feet hit the floor !

 Got my wife and my son covered for..   tomorrow's..    so ...

Short  True story ..    when I was about 35 I went on a 2 week vacation .   somewhere about day #20  my employer called me and said where are you,   why are you not back here yet ? .     my reply ..    I ain't done yet !

Now at 70 ,       the same holds true ..  I ain't done yet .    and 100 seems like a fair target !

Are you trying to imply that working is dying? The point of life is jobs

On 9/21/2025 at 8:33 AM, BritManToo said:

At 70 I freely admit I'm almost dead, all I have in front of me is increasing aches, pains, odd and more frequent illnesses, my mobility reducing and my body failing.

Im with you bro. Every day is my last one and Im using the minime as often as possible on 25 year old hardbodies while smoking as much weed as I can.

 

My last debauch, coordinated with layovers on the loooong trip hurt me so bad that 3 days later Im still laid up. Nevertheless, I have accepted that at 70, reaching the depths of perversion will require days of recovery later. 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Or possibility#3. You die, then go to heaven if you're  believer in God, and to a not so nice place if you don't. If there was reincarnation, there would be millions of people remembering what their past lives were, and it wouldn't matter how you lived your life, let the next life deal with it, which would take away possibility #3, where you only get one chance to do things right. 

I am not sure or it's even a mathematical possibilty that everyone can be reborn ....

Besides reborn w/o memory of former lives, I don't see that as a return. Return of what?

I like Budhism because it's not based on fear for the afterlife, it's just, can't you make in this lifetime then there will be a new chance to reach enlightment. 

Whatever that is ...

 

1 hour ago, angryguy said:

Are you trying to imply that working is dying? The point of life is jobs

No not talking about working ..  I did start  working @14  1969. For $1 and hour. And retired @ 62  with all the bases  covered

35 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Im with you bro. Every day is my last one and Im using the minime as often as possible on 25 year old hardbodies while smoking as much weed as I can.

 

My last debauch, coordinated with layovers on the loooong trip hurt me so bad that 3 days later Im still laid up. Nevertheless, I have accepted that at 70, reaching the depths of perversion will require days of recovery later. 

 

 

 

 

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No actually, not talking about death isn't denying it. You want to talk about go ahead. As far as I'm concerned it'll come when it comes, what's to talk about? I'm happily living my life in the meantime. I'm 68 by the way. 

5 hours ago, Henk Langeweg said:

I am not sure or it's even a mathematical possibilty that everyone can be reborn ....

Besides reborn w/o memory of former lives, I don't see that as a return. Return of what?

I like Budhism because it's not based on fear for the afterlife, it's just, can't you make in this lifetime then there will be a new chance to reach enlightment. 

Whatever that is ...

 

Mate, unless you've been very good you'd maybe not come back a human anyway, that's why we have so many cockroaches around? 

On 9/21/2025 at 9:08 AM, scubascuba3 said:

Interesting, may not happen

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Most people that die "in their sleep" are suffering from massive sudden bodily misfunctions. Heart failure mostly. A hearth failure takes 2 minutes, the patient knowing that he is dying with nobody around. Knowing that he fights his last hopeless fight.

 

Next day: He passed away  "peacefully in his sleep". Pacifiying relatives in their grief.

9 hours ago, Speedhump said:

Mate, unless you've been very good you'd maybe not come back a human anyway, that's why we have so many cockroaches around? 

Nah, that's just an inficient cleaning detail. Cats can solve that ,,, but then you will get an ant invasion to get rid of the CR cadavers .... 

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8 hours ago, swissie said:

Most people that die "in their sleep" are suffering from massive sudden bodily misfunctions. Heart failure mostly. A hearth failure takes 2 minutes, the patient knowing that he is dying with nobody around. Knowing that he fights his last hopeless fight.

 

Next day: He passed away  "peacefully in his sleep". Pacifiying relatives in their grief.

 

I've known several people dying in their sleep and the person in bed with them not noticing until the next morning (NancyL).

I think it's because we've removed it from our daily lives, medicalized it, made it invisible. Death has even disappeared from our vocabulary. And this makes us more fragile and unprepared.

We don't talk openly about death, but we're terrified of it, precisely because we don't know what to expect. Fear and inadequacy increase as the improbability of the event increases (the death of a husband, a wife, a young partner, a son, a daughter). And so, too, do the vexing questions, the wrong words, the inappropriate comments. Is it to avoid them, then, that so many people disappear from the lives of those grieving?

On 9/24/2025 at 1:20 PM, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Another one who, on the face of it, has selfishly missed the point about the reasons for talking about death.

 

 

It's not about you.

If one is sensible enough to get their affairs in order early enough, then there is no need to talk about it !

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

 

I've known several people dying in their sleep and the person in bed with them not noticing until the next morning (NancyL).

Agree. Worked with a guy who died aged 34. He had previously suffered a massive heart attack which had reduced his heart function to below one third. We were receiving training in a classroom. He was on the back row and someone commented; 'Come on now, it's not that boring'. However, he hadn't fallen asleep. First aiders were unable to resuscitate him. There wasn't a sound from him, let alone a struggle for breath. He had literally fallen asleep and died.

 

I'm 81.

What do you want to know?

Why worry - it will come soon enough - we're fortunate to have made it to this age.

Millions of others don't.

Just enjoy what you have.

It's not difficult.

 

Then ......... Pouft! .... you're gone!

That's all there is to know, OK?

10 hours ago, trainman34014 said:

If one is sensible enough to get their affairs in order early enough, then there is no need to talk about it !

 

 

Correct.

 

But I still recommend reviewing Wills, and other arrangements, on a regular basis. 

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