Trump (or RFK Jr? ) might come out soon linking Tylenol to increased risk of autism.

 

Will Tylenol get banned?

 

I never heard about this before. 

 

 

Anti vaxxers might be happy to hear that the reporter asked Trump about vaccines.

 

Trump doesnt seem to like all the vaccines being given to children.

 

But his solution is not to stop giving vaccines to children, but to spread them out over 5 years. 

 

 

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

Anti vaxxers might be happy to hear that the reporter asked Trump about vaccines.

 

Trump doesnt seem to like all the vaccines being given to children.

 

But his solution is not to stop giving vaccines to children, but to spread them out over 5 years. 

 

 

Why should anybody takes Trump's solution seriously? Because his uncle was a genius?

More ridiculous B.S. from Trump! 🤣

 

This large-scale study, involving nearly 2.5 million births in Sweden, found no causal link between prenatal acetaminophen exposure and increased risk of autism, ADHD, or intellectual disability. It’s one of the most comprehensive investigations to date on this topic.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2817406

12 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Why should anybody takes Trump's solution seriously? Because his uncle was a genius?

 

Dr. John G. Trump reviewed Tesla's Death Ray.

 

Which is more than I can say about any relative of Tim Walz.

 

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Because his uncle was a genius?

Who was that so called genius?

26 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Dr. John G. Trump reviewed Tesla's Death Ray.

 

Which is more than I can say about any relative of Tim Walz.

 

The lameness of the MAGA diversions..........

11 hours ago, BLMFem said:

The lameness of the MAGA diversions..........

 

Just messing wit' u guys. 

 

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Why should anybody takes Trump's solution seriously? Because his uncle was a genius?

Nooo.... because drinking bleach would kill the covid virus, he's the genius not his uncle  555

Despite you people insisting that he's demented, there is some science behind it. 

 

I personally never heard about it before and I appreciate the public service he's doing by bringing it to my attention.

 

Instead of constant petty bickering, maybe be appreciative when someone is doing something positive. 

 

https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/using-acetaminophen-during-pregnancy-may-increase-childrens-autism-and-adhd-risk/

 

When children are exposed to acetaminophen—also known by the brand name Tylenol or as paracetamol—during pregnancy, they may be more likely to develop neurodevelopmental disorders (NDDs) including autism and ADHD, according to a new study.

 

22 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Despite you people insisting that he's demented, there is some science behind it. 

 

I personally never heard about it before and I appreciate the public service he's doing by bringing it to my attention.

 

Instead of constant petty bickering, maybe be appreciative when someone is doing something positive. 

 

https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/using-acetaminophen-during-pregnancy-may-increase-childrens-autism-and-adhd-risk/

 

When children are exposed to acetaminophen—also known by the brand name Tylenol or as paracetamol—during pregnancy, they may be more likely to develop neurodevelopmental disorders (NDDs) including autism and ADHD, according to a new study.

 

From your link:

 

The researchers noted that while steps should be taken to limit acetaminophen use, the drug is important for treating pain and fever during pregnancy, which can also harm the developing fetus. “We recommend judicious acetaminophen use—lowest effective dose, shortest duration—under medical guidance, tailored to individual risk-benefit assessments, rather than a broad limitation,” they wrote.

 

And also this:

 

Baccarelli noted in the “competing interests” section of the paper that he has served as an expert witness for plaintiffs in a case involving potential links between acetaminophen use during pregnancy and neurodevelopmental disorders.

10 hours ago, candide said:

ndividual risk-benefit assessments, rather than a broad limitation,”

 

Yeah, rather than a broad limitation because we wouldn't want too many Big Pharma reps to have to sell their yacht in Monaco.

 

Quite frankly, I don't even think I've barely had a fever in decades and I haven't taken any Tylenol in decades.

 

How many fevers are life-threatening? How many subside on their own with rest and chicken soup? 

 

21 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Yeah, rather than a broad limitation because we wouldn't want too many Big Pharma reps to have to sell their yacht in Monaco.

 

Quite frankly, I don't even think I've barely had a fever in decades and I haven't taken any Tylenol in decades.

 

How many fevers are life-threatening? How many subside on their own with rest and chicken soup? 

 

 

 

????

 

 

This about a woman's own immune reaction to the fever and high temperature which can raise the risk of autism. in her unborn.......the paracetamol can reduce that risk.

 

 

12 hours ago, Will B Good said:

This about a woman's own immune reaction to the fever and high temperature which can raise the risk of autism. in her unborn.......the paracetamol can reduce that risk.

 

that's not my understanding

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

that's not my understanding

 

A high temp fever is the mother's immune system to react.ing to an infection.....one of the consequences is an increased risk of autism occurring. The biological pathway is seemingly well understood (not by me).

 

Paracetamol reduces that risk by lowering the temp, but may carry it's own risk of increases the chance of autism.....although a meta-study involving 2 million pregnancies seems to say that isn't the case.

 

So what is your understanding?

11 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

A high temp fever is the mother's immune system to react.ing to an infection.....one of the consequences is an increased risk of autism occurring. The biological pathway is seemingly well understood (not by me).

 

Paracetamol reduces that risk by lowering the temp, but may carry it's own risk of increases the chance of autism.....although a meta-study involving 2 million pregnancies seems to say that isn't the case.

 

So what is your understanding?

 

Ok, I understand what you are saying.

 

And a quick Google search showed a bunch of links supporting this hypothesis about mother's fever linked to autism. 

 

But this article claims there is no such link.

I don't want to debate the science as it's too complex and time-consuming.

The likelihood of a mother getting sick during a 9 month pregnancy is quite high. So statistically, most of us would have autism. Doesn't make sense to me. 

 

Then the question is does the use of Tylenol by the mother during pregnancy increase the risk of autism?

Again, I'm sure there will be conflicting articles and data and I will not debate it.

 

But to label Trump as a crackpot is probably fake news, because there do appear to be some studies showing some probable causality. 

 

https://nyulangone.org/news/no-evidence-maternal-sickness-during-pregnancy-causes-autism

No Evidence That Maternal Sickness During Pregnancy Causes Autism

 

 

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Ok, I understand what you are saying.

 

And a quick Google search showed a bunch of links supporting this hypothesis about mother's fever linked to autism. 

 

But this article claims there is no such link.

I don't want to debate the science as it's too complex and time-consuming.

The likelihood of a mother getting sick during a 9 month pregnancy is quite high. So statistically, most of us would have autism. Doesn't make sense to me. 

 

Then the question is does the use of Tylenol by the mother during pregnancy increase the risk of autism?

Again, I'm sure there will be conflicting articles and data and I will not debate it.

 

But to label Trump as a crackpot is probably fake news, because there do appear to be some studies showing some probable causality. 

 

https://nyulangone.org/news/no-evidence-maternal-sickness-during-pregnancy-causes-autism

No Evidence That Maternal Sickness During Pregnancy Causes Autism

 

 

 

Not an organisation to be sneezed at for sure!

 

An impressive resume.

 

NYU Langone Health has been a strong advocate for mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, both in clinical research and public health messaging. 

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Ok, I understand what you are saying.

 

And a quick Google search showed a bunch of links supporting this hypothesis about mother's fever linked to autism. 

 

But this article claims there is no such link.

I don't want to debate the science as it's too complex and time-consuming.

The likelihood of a mother getting sick during a 9 month pregnancy is quite high. So statistically, most of us would have autism. Doesn't make sense to me. 

 

Then the question is does the use of Tylenol by the mother during pregnancy increase the risk of autism?

Again, I'm sure there will be conflicting articles and data and I will not debate it.

 

But to label Trump as a crackpot is probably fake news, because there do appear to be some studies showing some probable causality. 

 

https://nyulangone.org/news/no-evidence-maternal-sickness-during-pregnancy-causes-autism

No Evidence That Maternal Sickness During Pregnancy Causes Autism

 

 

The best and most plausible reason is genetics ! 

 

 

10 hours ago, Hummin said:

The best and most plausible reason is genetics ! 

 

 

 

Not even sure if it's a "bad" thing to be autistic. 

Anyway, there are theories that autistic people are smarter than the rest of us. 

Or their brains work differently somehow. 

 

 

 

Put Donald Trump, one of the biggest liars and misinformation peddlers in the political realm, together with RFK Jr., one of the biggest liars and misinformation peddlers in the health realm, and what does anyone really expect the result to be?  Abject Nonsense!

 

Yes, there have been some studies that suggest a possible link between Tylenol use and autism... But as other posters above have well-documented, that research is widely considered to have flaws/weaknesses in the way the studies were done. And the best and highest-quality research done on the topic has NOT found that Tylenol connection to be justified... And that's a finding repeated across multiple high-quality studies in many places through the years.

 

""The [Trump-RFK] move comes despite recent court rulings and large-scale studies finding no causal connection. In late 2023, a federal judge dismissed more than 400 lawsuits alleging prenatal Tylenol exposure caused autism, calling the evidence “flawed.” A 2024 Swedish study involving 2.5 million sibling births also found no increased risk." [emphasis added]

 

The Swedish study was considered a very compelling confirmation of the no causal connection hypothesis, because by comparing only birth siblings in the study, some who got Tylenol and others who didn't, the researchers were able to eliminate potentially other confounding factors from their results.

 

 

And earlier this month from the Yale School of Public Health:

 

"For decades, acetaminophen—best known under the brand name Tylenol—has been the most commonly recommended pain reliever for pregnant women. Pain and fever during pregnancy can create risks to the pregnancy and the fetus. [emphasis added]

...

Unfortunately, there is no equivalent alternative for Tylenol at the moment, as other over-the-counter pain medications, such as ibuprofen, are recommended to be avoided during pregnancy, especially after 20 weeks of gestation.

...

"Thus, it is recommended that pregnant women consult with their health care providers and, if pain relief is necessary, that they use the lowest effective dose and duration for Tylenol to alleviate these conditions."

 

https://ysph.yale.edu/news-article/what-the-research-says-about-autism-and-tylenol-use-during-pregnancy/

 

Anyone who believes this man below has credibility really needs to check again:

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

"Since 2005, Kennedy has promoted vaccine misinformation[1] and public-health conspiracy theories,[2] including the chemtrail conspiracy theory,[3] HIV/AIDS denialism,[4] and the scientifically disproved claim of a causal link between vaccines and autism.[5] He has drawn criticism for fueling vaccine hesitancy amid a social climate that gave rise to the deadly measles outbreaks in Samoa and Tonga.[6]

 

Kennedy is the founder and former chairman[7] of Children's Health Defense, an anti-vaccine advocacy group and proponent of COVID-19 vaccine misinformation."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr.

 

 

 

34 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Not even sure if it's a "bad" thing to be autistic. 

Anyway, there are theories that autistic people are smarter than the rest of us. 

Or their brains work differently somehow. 

 

 

 

 

Being autistic is not easy if you do not have someone who have resources and want to make sure you have a good life. Autistics is more or less depending on other people to have a quality life. 

 

Life expectancy is 15 - 20 years shorter than average. Autism doesnt automatically links to intelligence, but there is some examples out there who have higher intelligence than average and also those who is super intelligent not different from Musk, who have self diagnosed himself as bipolar, Asperger which broader term is autism. Bipolar also linked to higher intelligence, but not everyone who are diagnosed with bipolarity have any artistic or higher intelligence than normal people. 

 

Intelligence do also comes with genetics, but not only genetics. 🧬 

 

So cutting through all the fluff this whole issue seems to boil down to.....

 

1. Avoid paracetamol if possible, but if you have a high fever take it

 

2. Take folic acid......which women in the UK have been taking during pregnancy as far back as the 1970's....although guidance wasn't issued until 1992.

 

 

What a load of fuss over nothing.

On 9/22/2025 at 1:59 PM, save the frogs said:

But his solution is not to stop giving vaccines to children, but to spread them out over 5 years. 

 

He also said to take out the aluminium and mercury

to separate the MMR  into separate 'vaccines' again 

give the hepatitis vaccine at a later age 12+  as it is sexually transmitted, and  also mentioned in passing  the Amish.

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

 

A high temp fever is the mother's immune system to react.ing to an infection.....one of the consequences is an increased risk of autism occurring. The biological pathway is seemingly well understood (not by me).

 

Paracetamol reduces that risk by lowering the temp, but may carry it's own risk of increases the chance of autism.....although a meta-study involving 2 million pregnancies seems to say that isn't the case.

 

So what is your understanding?

It's just Trump giving crumbles to his cult. He cannot adopt a strong antivax position as it wouldn't be accepted by moderate voters. So he satisfies them on a minor issue to keepvthem happy. 🤣

By the way, the nation's major autism groups are pretty pissed at Trump and RFK Jr. over their latest nonsense.... So let's hear from the folks and groups directly involved:

 

'We've regressed so horribly': Autism groups respond to Trump administration's Tylenol claims

September 23, 2025

 

"The Trump administration announced on Monday, Sept. 22, that it had found the "answer to autism" - a claim experts, advocacy groups and the autism community are calling dangerous and regressive. [emphasis added]

...

The Trump administration has made repeated claims about its plans to find the "cause" for autism, despite decades of medical and scientific consensus indicating that there is no singular source, including medication, that can be attributed to the condition, and that it is likely the result of multiple contributing factors like genetics. Kennedy has argued, without evidence, that the country has a "preventable" "autism epidemic" fueled by "environmental toxins."

...

The oversimplification of a complex developmental difference that exists on a spectrum of many different abilities and experiences is dehumanizing at best and dangerous at its worst, autism experts, advocacy groups and members of the community told USA TODAY. [emphasis added]

 

"The claim that Tylenol causes autism has been shown to be false by actual scientific research ... Autism is a very complex neurodevelopmental condition," said Dr. Sara Rodrigues, Executive Director of Balanced Learning Center, a nonprofit providing services, coaching, advocacy and therapy for autistic and neurodivergent people.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/weve-regressed-horribly-autism-groups-235336465.html

 

 

12 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Yes, there have been some studies that suggest a possible link between Tylenol use and autism...

 

They are still bringing it to people's attention. I wasn't even aware of these studies until now.

 

There is still a risk, as we don't know for sure yet. They are raising awareness of a possible risk. 

 

So then the question becomes "Are people too relaxed about taking Tylenol" or should people be more cautious and take it only when the fever is dangerously high? How often do fevers subside on their own with rest? 

 

I asked ChatGPT this question and here is what I got:

 

 

12 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

"The claim that Tylenol causes autism has been shown to be false by actual scientific research ...

 

That's not what ChatGPT told me.

There are studies linking Tylenol, but not enough evidence yet to prove causality. 

 

But the other point are valid maybe. I don't know. I am not an expert on autism. 

11 hours ago, save the frogs said:

So then the question becomes "Are people too relaxed about taking Tylenol" or should people be more cautious and take it only when the fever is dangerously high? How often do fevers subside on their own with rest? 

 

More from ChatGPT about fevers.

In fact, taking a Tylenol for a fever in most cases is a bad idea because you do not want to bring the fever down. The fever is doing sth positive in the body. 

 

So how many people jump to take a Tylenol right away rather than let the fever take its course? 

 

22 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

More from ChatGPT about fevers.

In fact, taking a Tylenol for a fever in most cases is a bad idea because you do not want to bring the fever down. The fever is doing sth positive in the body. 

 

So how many people jump to take a Tylenol right away rather than let the fever take its course? 

 

 

We all taking Tylenol, and we will continue to take Tylenol no matter what, because it is very convenient and it is working. 

 

This is just another distraction from the Government, nothing else! 

On 9/22/2025 at 1:57 PM, save the frogs said:

Will Tylenol get banned?

Thai Doctors do not allow pregnant woman to take Tylenol (paracetamol).