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Patong Bans Jewish New Year Event on Public Beach

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4 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

I don't think there was a need to  celebrate jewish new year in a public space, and it was rather stupid of whoever suggested it be done.

That would be the rabbi of the local synagogue. The same guy who first suggested the event to be held at Rawai but got shut down.

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  • Maybe the land thieves should return the land to the originals land owners and end the Palestine conflict.

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    Israel is doing a pretty good job right now alienating the entire planet, making themselves into a pariah, showing that they are not a democracy on any level, and committing multiple forms of genocide

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45 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

so by ur thoughts, since usa won the war they took the land from mexico, so if Israel wins the war,  same applies?
IF Russia wins the war against Ukraine, thye get the land? 
what does the black man have to do with anything?? 

USA STOLE the Indians land and gave them BS treaties 

LOOK< i agree Israel is and has been stealing Palestinian land BUT all these countries recognize Palestine as a state>
where is this said state? The occupied zone?  The west bank?

Who runs the government? 

I think you misunderstood, I'm saying that historically things were viewed differently in terms of land conquest. However starting in the 20th century people started taking a more civilized approach about victories during a war, and one of the few nations that is ignoring a civilized approach to land acquisition is Israel. They are total barbarians. 

22 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Really? You haven't attended the Taoist festival and its barbaric piercing activity that occurs on public lands, How do you feel about the Eid Al-Adha event when the locals"sacrifice" a cow or goat in public, hacking a terrified animal to death in front of a braying mob?  At Christmas, Patong would put up its lame Christmas decorations and encourage people to go eat diarrhea inducing food and drink beer at the beach.

I don't think there was a need to  celebrate jewish new year in a public space, and it was rather stupid of whoever suggested it be done. My issue is the manner in which it was forbidden. The initiators should have just been told no and to have some common sense, instead of this being made into some political episode that allows the idiot bigots to come out from under their  rocks.

".....encourage people to go eat diarrhea inducing food and drink beer at the beach."

 

I missed that last new year on the beach while watching the fireworks, where do I queue for such food, it sounds tasty. 🤣

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3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I think you misunderstood, I'm saying that historically things were viewed differently in terms of land conquest. However starting in the 20th century people started taking a more civilized approach about victories during a war, and one of the few nations that is ignoring a civilized approach to land acquisition is Israel. They are total barbarians. 

 

I suppose when the Yanks murdered 3 million women and children in Vietnam it was all done by accident? 

 

How barbaric was that?

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I think you misunderstood, I'm saying that historically things were viewed differently in terms of land conquest. However starting in the 20th century people started taking a more civilized approach about victories during a war, and one of the few nations that is ignoring a civilized approach to land acquisition is Israel. They are total barbarians. 

 

    Mike .

They don't want to keep the beach on Phuket ,

They just wanted to hold a festival there for 2 days .

They would have given the beach straight back after 2 days .

Wasn't you invited ?

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Just now, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

I suppose when the Yanks murdered 3 million women and children in Vietnam it was all done by accident? 

 

How barbaric was that?

I don't justify American atrocities. I don't justify the current atrocity that's taking place with Trump supporting Israel, and I was adamantly opposed to the Vietnam War, which was ugly, ridiculous, genocidal, and unnecessary. I'm not a supporter of war in general, unless confronted with mad maniacal Japanese or Germans during an era like World War II. So, I don't know why you're just assuming these kinds of things. 

58 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

It highlights discrimination based upon religion. That's the prerogative of the Thais. I expect this was Chabad proposing the celebration. Very stupid on their part as they would be setting up jews  to be targeted and providing an opportunity for ignorant bigoted people to accuse  people of being baby killers. Thais should not complain when they are not allowed to undertake their idol worship or veneration of pictures, amulets and  other "magic"  in muslim nations.

No,

It's not discrimination but a foreseen conflict/disruption of public peace.

Therefore it's a good decision

3 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

No,

It's not discrimination but a foreseen conflict/disruption of public peace.

Therefore it's a good decision

 

    Would you join in an  attack on Jews , if they congregated in Ireland for a festival ?

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Would you join in an  attack on Jews , if they congregated in Ireland for a festival ?

Good morning. Weed or booze? What make you ask that silly question?

Guarda is well equipped and ready to sort all incidents.

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Good morning. Weed or booze? What make you ask that silly question?

Guarda is well equipped and ready to sort all incidents.

 

    You seemed to favour cancelling events due to thugs potentially attacking participants  .

  If you were on the Puckett beach would you side with the Jews or the protestors ?

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Cann someone tell me why none of the other Arab nations in the Middle East accept the Palastinians to live in their countries?  After all, Saudi has a huge land area, for example.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   British didn't give anything to anyone .

British's just packed up their bags and went home in 1947 and left the mess for the U,N to sort out 

The Balfour Declaration, which resulted in a significant upheaval in the lives of Palestinians, was issued on November 2, 1917. The declaration turned the Zionist aim of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine into a reality when Britain publicly pledged to establish “a national home for the Jewish people” there.

33 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I don't justify American atrocities. I don't justify the current atrocity that's taking place with Trump supporting Israel, and I was adamantly opposed to the Vietnam War, which was ugly, ridiculous, genocidal, and unnecessary. I'm not a supporter of war in general, unless confronted with mad maniacal Japanese or Germans during an era like World War II. So, I don't know why you're just assuming these kinds of things. 

 

I am assuming nothing but replying to what you wrote which was ".....However starting in the 20th century people started taking a more civilized approach about victories during a war..."

 

Which part of the war in Vietnam in the twentieth century was "civilised"?

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6 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Cann someone tell me why none of the other Arab nations in the Middle East accept the Palastinians to live in their countries?  After all, Saudi has a huge land area, for example.

 

It's because even Arab muslim countries don't want muslim terrorists in their country.

2 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

The Balfour Declaration, which resulted in a significant upheaval in the lives of Palestinians, was issued on November 2, 1917. The declaration turned the Zionist aim of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine into a reality when Britain publicly pledged to establish “a national home for the Jewish people” there.

 

    That was done to get Jewish support for the UK when the uk was fighting against the ottomans in the region .

   It wasn't the UKs land for them to give away to other people , it was Turkish land at the time  

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1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

 

It highlights discrimination based upon religion. That's the prerogative of the Thais. I expect this was Chabad proposing the celebration. Very stupid on their part as they would be setting up jews  to be targeted and providing an opportunity for ignorant bigoted people to accuse  people of being baby killers. Thais should not complain when they are not allowed to undertake their idol worship or veneration of pictures, amulets and  other "magic"  in muslim nations.

The Thais are more pissed off with the way these people are behaving in their country, not to mention them blatantly slaughtering their neighbour. Take the word ‘Jew’ out of the equation and there is no more bigotry, just the observation of an aggressive, somewhat arrogant people acting up. 

28 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    You seemed to favour cancelling events due to thugs potentially attacking participants  .

  If you were on the Puckett beach would you side with the Jews or the protestors ?

Hahaha, do you think, I would like to be killed? 

How can you ask so silly question?

 

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   British didn't give anything to anyone .

British's just packed up their bags and went home in 1947 and left the mess for the U,N to sort out 

Just like the yanks left Afgahn and let the Taliban take it back.

44 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

I am assuming nothing but replying to what you wrote which was ".....However starting in the 20th century people started taking a more civilized approach about victories during a war..."

 

Which part of the war in Vietnam in the twentieth century was "civilised"?

Okay let me be more specific for you. I was not intimating that Vietnam was a civilized war, nor that America behaved in a civilized manner. After all America did kill over 2 million people in and around Hanoi alone, and it is estimated that tens if not hundreds of thousands were killed in Laos, just because the planes didn't want to go back to the bases in Thailand with armaments intact. That is the very definition of absolute and total moral bankruptcy. Which America is. Especially now, under the goon. 

 

This was strictly a discussion about taking over territory, and then not handing it back after the war was over and things were settled. 

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Okay let me be more specific for you. I was not intimating that Vietnam was a civilized war, nor that America behaved in a civilized manner. After all America did kill over 2 million people in and around Hanoi alone, and it is estimated that tens if not hundreds of thousands were killed in Laos, just because the planes didn't want to go back to the bases in Thailand with armaments intact. That is the very definition of absolute and total moral bankruptcy. Which America is. Especially now, under the goon. 

 

This was strictly a discussion about taking over territory, and then not handing it back after the war was over and things were settled. 

 

OK

51 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    That was done to get Jewish support for the UK when the uk was fighting against the ottomans in the region .

   It wasn't the UKs land for them to give away to other people , it was Turkish land at the time  

 

And the Brits gave it to the Jews.

Remember October 6th.

 

What Phuket did was shameful.

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Israel is doing a pretty good job right now alienating the entire planet, making themselves into a pariah, showing that they are not a democracy on any level, and committing multiple forms of genocide against their neighbors. It used to be that there were a few different organizations in the Middle East that committed terror, now Israel has taken up that mantle committing terror against six different nations in the region, and completely decimating Gaza while trying to eliminate the Palestinian population entirely as a neighbor.

 

It would appear to me as a Centrist American Jew that Israel has not learned much from the Holocaust. 

You call yourself a 'centrist American Jew'. On the 7th of October 2023 Israeli civilians were brutally murdered by palestinians. Girls and women were tortured, raped and killed, and babies were beheaded and burned alive. Hostages were taken, then starved and tortured.

I am a centrist Anglo Christian. If that happened to my people there would be hell to pay. All those who were responsible, directly or indirectly  for the torture and death of my people would suffer a similar fate, in spades.

1 hour ago, daveAustin said:

Take the word ‘Jew’ out of the equation and there is no more bigotry, just the observation of an aggressive, somewhat arrogant people acting up.

well said

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Really? You haven't attended the Taoist festival and its barbaric piercing activity that occurs on public lands, How do you feel about the Eid Al-Adha event when the locals"sacrifice" a cow or goat in public, hacking a terrified animal to death in front of a braying mob?  At Christmas, Patong would put up its lame Christmas decorations and encourage people to go eat diarrhea inducing food and drink beer at the beach.

I don't think there was a need to  celebrate jewish new year in a public space, and it was rather stupid of whoever suggested it be done. My issue is the manner in which it was forbidden. The initiators should have just been told no and to have some common sense, instead of this being made into some political episode that allows the idiot bigots to come out from under their  rocks.

The southern states of Thailand were once part of Malaysia and were ceded to Thailand by the British in the 19th century under the Burney Agreement. As a result, the region has maintained a strong Islamic cultural presence for centuries, which has largely coexisted peacefully within Thailand’s predominantly Buddhist and culturally inclusive society.

Much of the unrest in the South is less about jihadist ideology and more rooted in localized conflicts, where Muslim gangs and power groups compete for control over their territories. However, tensions were significantly exacerbated by the Tak Bai massacre in 2004 under Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, which deepened grievances and inflamed the situation further.

26 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

You call yourself a 'centrist American Jew'. On the 7th of October 2023 Israeli civilians were brutally murdered by palestinians. Girls and women were tortured, raped and killed, and babies were beheaded and burned alive. Hostages were taken, then starved and tortured.

I am a centrist Anglo Christian. If that happened to my people there would be hell to pay. All those who were responsible, directly or indirectly  for the torture and death of my people would suffer a similar fate, in spades.

If you were truly a Christian, you would understand the core teachings of forgiveness and turning the other cheek principles at the heart of the Christian faith that, in their compassion and emphasis on peace, closely resemble the spirit of Buddhism. I think you are using the term “Christian” more as a cultural identifier than as a deeply held spiritual compass.

1 hour ago, daveAustin said:

Take the word ‘Jew’ out of the equation and there is no more bigotry, just the observation of an aggressive, somewhat arrogant people acting up. 

 

    Where is the aggression in this story ?

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Israel is doing a pretty good job right now alienating the entire planet, making themselves into a pariah, showing that they are not a democracy on any level, and committing multiple forms of genocide against their neighbors.

Good post but… they are a democracy, most Israelis support forced expulsion.

 

A majority of 56 percent of Jews supported the "transfer (forced expulsion) of Arab citizens of Israel to other countries." And when asked directly whether they agreed with the position that the IDF, "when conquering an enemy city, should act in a manner similar to the way the Israelites acted when they conquered Jericho under the leadership of Joshua, namely, to kill all its inhabitants?" nearly half, 47 percent, agreed.

 

https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/poll-show-most-jewish-israelis-support-expelling-gazans

2 hours ago, simon43 said:

Cann someone tell me why none of the other Arab nations in the Middle East accept the Palastinians to live in their countries?  After all, Saudi has a huge land area, for example.

Silly question. Why would Arab nations help in ethnic cleansing?
They want Palestinians to have their own land.

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