Thousnda of young Russians are hiding all over S.E. Asia, is it not? so much so, that Putin have to kowtow to anther despot maniac for help in manpower and equipment's, yes, big Putin asking for alms.

15 minutes ago, johng said:

Russia is already far ahead in industrial capacity..Europe has crippled itself with high energy costs, high labour costs,de industrialisation 

decades long winding down of military capabilities (cost savings)

it will take years to re skill and re industrialise  then you will have to conscript an army willing to go fight someone else's  war.

 

Not to mention that you also want to wage war on China at the same time...INSANE !

What you fail to realise is that Russia has put itself in a situation where it can't really afford to win or lose the war, as the consequences of either outcome will destroy the Kremlin, Putler, and the Russian economy/political situation.

If Russia loses, then it's a disaster and Putin will fall, sanctions will continue and Russia will collapse. If it wins, or makes peace, how will it afford to make the Donbas and other areas it has leveled inhabitable and livable again, justifying the invasion? It can't, it's a wasteland that would cost hundreds of trillions of rubbles or hundreds of billions of dollars to even make it semi-inhabitable again, which the Kremlin doesn't have. The only option is to continue the war economy... which just creates more wasteland and further exhausts Russian revenues even more.

There's no point taking over land that is an apocalyptic hellscape with nothing but rubble. What will they do with it? Basically nothing.

So many skilled and talented Russians have fled to avoid the draft, and many more have died needlessly... which means Russia is facing a huge demographic time-bomb and it can't be reversed so easily.

1 hour ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

No, sir.

 

I did not cheer Ukrainian air defense missiles missing their targets and falling back to earth, hitting the hospitals and schools the air defense batteries are hidden amongst.

Putin thanks you.

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

World's first paper Tiger with 3000 nuclear weapons.

 

Lol.

MAD still applies.

35 minutes ago, ezzra said:

What to you call a country where its young men are running away in their droves to a sunny places just not to serve in the Russian army? an act of bravery defending your country? a vote of confidence in your leaders?

There are 5 million Ukrainian men currently living abroad. Does your comment apply to them too? Russia is ten times bigger and unlike Ukraine does not have a manpower problem.

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

MAD still applies.

 

Not with Ukraine.

28 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

There's no point taking over land that is an apocalyptic hellscape with nothing but rubble. What will they do with it? Basically nothing.

Perhaps  Israel has the answer to that one ?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/more-experts-see-genocide-in-israel-s-wartime-conduct-in-gaza/ar-AA1N9Gha

2 minutes ago, Summerinsiam said:

There are 5 million Ukrainian men currently living abroad. Does your comment apply to them too? Russia is ten times bigger and unlike Ukraine does not have a manpower problem.

Very misleading as Ukraine doesn’t conscript until age 25.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Not with Ukraine.

Fallout doesn’t have borders.

That would be suicide.

2 hours ago, johng said:

...fact is Ukraine,NATO, EU is collapsing  while Russia forges ahead...

Oh, I seemed to miss that Ukraine, NATO and EU is collapsing.

While Russia has changed to wartime economy since 3 years they gained how much?! Peanuts - With how many losses?!

 

The EU hasn't even started a wartime economy yet. They don't have to either. Russia never ever will win this war. It will be a sh**holecounty (Trumps expression for such countries) for the next decades.

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Fallout doesn’t have borders.

That would be suicide.

 

I don't think it would be "suicide" as the West would be highly reluctant to trigger MAD because of Ukraine, that would be suicide.

 

But yes, clearly it is not the preferred solution and highly undesirable from Putin's perspective as he is a decent person.

8 minutes ago, Summerinsiam said:

Russia is ten times bigger and unlike Ukraine does not have a manpower problem.

Oh yes it does. Why else are they emptying the prisons to bribe prisoners to lose their lives at the front? why else are they using Little Kim's untrained boys to head in to battle?

33 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

What you fail to realise is that Russia has put itself in a situation where it can't really afford to win or lose the war

 

What you fail to realise is that this is an existential war  from the Russian perspective  (yes from Ukraine perspective too)

however it is not an existential war for the US /EU or NATO

Russia is winning at the moment   slowly,yes  but surely.

 

Does the US/EU NATO want to engage in WWIII for Ukraine ???

ohh and don't forget for 'democracy' (long forgotten) !!!!

16 minutes ago, Summerinsiam said:

There are 5 million Ukrainian men currently living abroad. Does your comment apply to them too? Russia is ten times bigger and unlike Ukraine does not have a manpower problem.

No, because when you empty the jails, asylums and "borrow" tens of thousands of foreign troops that kind of takes care of it, right?

10 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

The EU hasn't even started a wartime economy yet. They don't have to either.

They can't even if they wanted to for reasons I explained above  Russia will have taken Ukraine  to the Dnieper river before Europe even gets its boots on.

42 minutes ago, johng said:

Perhaps  Israel has the answer to that one ?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/more-experts-see-genocide-in-israel-s-wartime-conduct-in-gaza/ar-AA1N9Gha

Guess we are done here, your cherry picking of one sentence in my posts trying to sound clever but failing to respond to any of the of content is, well, lame... clearly you know nothing other than being a Kremlin Shill with no understanding of the wider topic. 

3 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

your cherry picking of one sentence in my posts trying to sound clever

Quoted for brevity there is no need to quote chapter and verse.

I answered a part of your question but you seem not to like the answer ?

5 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

clearly you know nothing other than being a Kremli Shill with no understanding of the wider topic. 

I think its you who have little understanding of the wider topic..

do you understand that Russia has said this Ukraine problem is an existential threat  they are not going to give up,retreat ,give back all the land and pay reparations , as the MSM would have you believe

the only possible way to make them is WWIII   

is Ukraine  worth that   ??

41 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I don't think it would be "suicide" as the West would be highly reluctant to trigger MAD because of Ukraine, that would be suicide.

 

But yes, clearly it is not the preferred solution and highly undesirable from Putin's perspective as he is a decent person.

Putin is a decent person??? Not even Putin claims he's a decent person!🤣

 

Cam, you need help. Lots and lots of help.

15 minutes ago, johng said:

Quoted for brevity there is no need to quote chapter and verse.

I answered a part of your question but you seem not to like the answer ?

I think its you who have little understanding of the wider topic..

do you understand that Russia has said this Ukraine problem is an existential threat  they are not going to give up,retreat ,give back all the land and pay reparations , as the MSM would have you believe

the only possible way to make them is WWIII   

is Ukraine  worth that   ??

Calling BS on that... just have to agree to disagree here. Nice trolling though, give you that. 

41 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I don't think it would be "suicide" as the West would be highly reluctant to trigger MAD because of Ukraine, that would be suicide.

 

But yes, clearly it is not the preferred solution and highly undesirable from Putin's perspective as he is a decent person.

You're tripping.

China would instantly go against them.

There would be a very serious response from NATO.

I recall seeing reports of war game scenarios concluding that there is no such thing as using tactical nukes "safely" as the result is always a global nuclear blowup.

But I get it.

You constantly argue the Putin propaganda line and it's been a major (and very effective) part of Putin's game to constantly threaten to use nukes.

Over time, those threats are being taken much less seriously.

3 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Putin is a decent person???🤣

You need to be a very indecent person to think that.

It's a big self own. 

16 minutes ago, johng said:

Quoted for brevity there is no need to quote chapter and verse.

I answered a part of your question but you seem not to like the answer ?

I think its you who have little understanding of the wider topic..

do you understand that Russia has said this Ukraine problem is an existential threat  they are not going to give up,retreat ,give back all the land and pay reparations , as the MSM would have you believe

the only possible way to make them is WWIII   

is Ukraine  worth that   ??

Standing up to the murderous dictator is not one of several options, it's the only option.

3 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Putin is a decent person??? Not even Putin claims he's a decent person!🤣

 

Cam, you need help. Lots and lots of help.

He's another in the long line of very disturbed megalomaniacs. A narcissist that cares only for power, with little regard for the troops he's lead to slaughter. The only way this nonsense will end is the quick eradication of those that think like him, in any country it happens.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

The only way this nonsense will end is the quick eradication of those that think like him, in any country it happens.

Another one all in for WWIII  must be something in the water ?

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're tripping.

China would instantly go against them.

There would be a very serious response from NATO.

I recall seeing reports of war game scenarios concluding that there is no such thing as using tactical nukes "safely" as the result is always a global nuclear blowup.

But I get it.

You constantly argue the Putin propaganda line and it's been a major (and very effective) part of Putin's game to constantly threaten to use nukes.

Over time, those threats are being taken much less seriously.

 

I wish, but sadly sober.

 

China may well express words of displeasure, but they would not "go against them" with nuclear weapons. Neiher would NATO.

 

Why? Because neither China or NATO are insane and want to end their countries and the planet.

 

There would certainly not be a nuclear blow up over Ukraine, some words, sanctions, yes, but nothing much else besides. There's nothing the West or China could do militarily.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You need to be a very indecent person to think that.

It's a big self own. 

Indecent? I'd use stronger words. Much, much stronger words.

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

I wish, but sadly sober.

 

China may well express words of displeasure, but they would not "go against them" with nuclear weapons. Neiher would NATO.

 

Why? Because neither China or NATO are insane and want to end their countries and the planet.

 

There would certainly not be a nuclear blow up over Ukraine, some words, sanctions, yes, but nothing much else besides. There's nothing the West or China could do militarily.

 

 

I didn't say China would nuke Russia.

What I meant is that China would end it's relationship with Russia as an ally.

It would be suicide for Russia even if it didn't be the trigger towards nuclear winter.

8 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Putin is a decent person??? 

 

 

Putin has been a very reliable partner for the West, until the West betrayed his confidence. He has always acted reasonably.

1 minute ago, BLMFem said:

Indecent? I'd use stronger words. Much, much stronger words.

Occasionally I err on the side of politeness. I'll try harder.

1 minute ago, johng said:

Another one all in for WWIII  must be something in the water ?

What's sad is that there's quite a few countries with dictators like Russia has. A few in Africa, the Middle East and North Korea. Hopefully their own people get fed up and take matters into their own hands.