I don't have time to watch the entire video now.

Will watch it later and post again.

 

This is kind of a "conspiracy" Youtube channel ... but ... is the mainstream media dumbing everyone down and no one sees what Trump is really doing?

 

Mainstream media focused on the escalator malfunction ... 

 

But anyway, there was another channel I was following that was making the same argument as this guy, ie that Trump is going to war with the globalists.

 

So if it's true, it means Trump is on the side of the average person because the globalists maybe were not? 

 

 

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

I don't have time to watch the entire video now.

Will watch it later and post again.

 

This is kind of a "conspiracy" Youtube channel ... but ... is the mainstream media dumbing everyone down and no one sees what Trump is really doing?

 

Mainstream media focused on the escalator malfunction ... 

 

But anyway, there was another channel I was following that was making the same argument as this guy, ie that Trump is going to war with the globalists.

 

So if it's true, it means Trump is on the side of the average person because the globalists maybe were not? 

 

 

 

Trump is on the side of Trump.

End of discussion.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

I don't have time to watch the entire video now.

Will watch it later and post again.

 

Redacted news is good   I watch it regularly

Trump pointing out the climate change scam  a classic 👍

31 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

 

Trump is on the side of Trump.

End of discussion.

And also assorted Russian oligarchs, etc.

 

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I don't have time to watch the entire video now.

Will watch it later and post again.

 

This is kind of a "conspiracy" Youtube channel ... but ... is the mainstream media dumbing everyone down and no one sees what Trump is really doing?

 

Mainstream media focused on the escalator malfunction ... 

 

But anyway, there was another channel I was following that was making the same argument as this guy, ie that Trump is going to war with the globalists.

 

So if it's true, it means Trump is on the side of the average person because the globalists maybe were not? 

 

 

Why are right wingers so allergic to reading? Are there no texts you can offer that address this issue? I think the reason right wingers are so enamored of videos is that they are more difficult to fact check.

1 hour ago, johng said:

 

Redacted news is good   I watch it regularly

Trump pointing out the climate change scam  a classic 👍

Well, it's certainly classic Trump and of a piece with his general ignorance and curious love of carbon.

20 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

curious love of carbon.

 

Carbon is essential for life on earth..and don't forget humans are a carbon based life form..those that hate carbon and want to eliminate it are possibly  not carbon based life forms ?

 

21 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I think the reason right wingers are so enamored of videos is that they are more difficult to fact check.

ha ha what a load of rubbish...fact check..why not watch or even just listen with your own ears (assuming you are not deaf)

to what is said and then make up your own mind..why do you need a fact checker ?   who fact checks the fact check checkers ?

11 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Why are right wingers so allergic to reading? Are there no texts you can offer that address this issue? I think the reason right wingers are so enamored of videos is that they are more difficult to fact check.

 

We'd had this discussion before.

I'm a visual person. 

 

41 minutes ago, johng said:

 

Carbon is essential for life on earth..and don't forget humans are a carbon based life form..those that hate carbon and want to eliminate it are possibly  not carbon based life forms ?

 

Disingenuous much?

YouTube as a credible source of information.  

 

 

43 minutes ago, johng said:

ha ha what a load of rubbish...fact check..why not watch or even just listen with your own ears (assuming you are not deaf)

to what is said and then make up your own mind..why do you need a fact checker ?   who fact checks the fact check checkers ?

First off, why should I devote so much time to listening to something that could take a minute or 2 to read? Especially when it's likely to be BS.

 

Second, it's a lot harder to fact check a video. Unlike most right-wing video fans  here I don't just listen passively and accept what is said on a vvideo. Especially given the large number of falsehoods it's likely to contain.

11 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Second, it's a lot harder to fact check a video

 

No, it's not.

Information is information.

Fine if you prefer text, but video is a not so new medium and Youtube is the biggest site after Google. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

First off, why should I devote so much time to listening to something that could take a minute or 2 to read? Especially when it's likely to be BS.

 

Second, it's a lot harder to fact check a video. Unlike most right-wing video fans  here I don't just listen passively and accept what is said on a vvideo. Especially given the large number of falsehoods it's likely to contain.

 

  The "YouTube is fact" people may be able to read but reading makes their lips sore and thus they prefer to avoid the effort and ensuing discomfort.

8 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Disingenuous

I thought it was just science  ™ ® ©

....but perhaps since the end of 2019  ???

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, it's not.

Information is information.

Fine if you prefer text, but video is a not so new medium and Youtube is the biggest site after Google. 

 

 

It's not harder? You mean it's just as easy to rewind a video as it is to move your eyeballs? And do the same a third or fourth time? And if you want to check the validity of what has been uttered All you have to do is cut and paste it into a search engine or AI.  It seems clear you don't have much experience questioning what it is you view on videos. Your taking at face value that video snippet of Trump and alleged disrespect supports my point.

Trump gives worldwide hope.  He wages the good fight against an increasingly leftist and Muslim-encroaching world.

7 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

First off, why should I devote so much time to listening to something that could take a minute or 2 to read? Especially when it's likely to be BS.

 

Because the maker of the video has taken time and effort to bring you information..you could listen to the video at 2 or 3 times speed  or use some AI  program  to convert speech to text

a lot of Youtube videos  now have auto generated subtitles for the hard of hearing.

 

Also using AI to  do your thinking for you (fact checking) ..what could possibly go wrong 🤣

11 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And if you want to check the validity of what has been uttered All you have to do is cut and paste it into a search engine or AI.  It seems clear you don't have much experience questioning what it is you view on videos.

 

Too much information out there.

No time to fact-check everything. 

And impossible to fact-check everything even if you had the time.

It's a giant complex puzzle and we're just given scraps to piece together.

Not even sure what to make of the UN speech, Trump pushing coal, and not even saying this video's analysis is totally accurate.

Just putting it out there.

Which other president has spoken against the climate change issue? Trump is the only one, so it's interesting. 

 

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Too much information out there.

No time to fact-check everything. 

And impossible to fact-check everything even if you had the time.

It's a giant complex puzzle and we're just given scraps to piece together.

Not even sure what to make of the UN speech, Trump pushing coal, and not even saying this video's analysis is totally accurate.

Just putting it out there.

Which other president has spoken against the climate change issue? Trump is the only one, so it's interesting. 

 

But it is possible to fact check something you produce as evidence. In fact, given the resources at hand, it's easier than ever.

3 hours ago, BLMFem said:

 

Trump is on the side of Trump.

End of discussion.

End of discussion in your mind I'm sure. I'm guessing your mind also avoids thinking about shutting down the borders is a good thing. No way your mind would think about men in women's sports being a bad thing, One thing I'm certain of though is Trump is constantlly in your mind as is the hate for him. 

 

He's at war with everything.

10 minutes ago, johng said:

 

Because the maker of the video has taken time and effort to bring you information..you could listen to the video at 2 or 3 times speed  or use some AI  program  to convert speech to text

a lot of Youtube videos  now have auto generated subtitles for the hard of hearing.

 

Also using AI to  do your thinking for you (fact checking) ..what could possibly go wrong 🤣

And stopping it and rewinding and playing it again and again. And then cutting and pasting how? As for AI, anybody who doesn't ask it for links deserves to get false answers. Do you have a problem asking it for links and checking what those links lead to?

11 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And stopping it and rewinding and playing it again and again. And then cutting and pasting how? As for AI, anybody who doesn't ask it for links deserves to get false answers. Do you have a problem asking it for links and checking what those links lead to?

 

At some point, you just have to go with your gut and common sense.

So much of the media has hidden agendas ... including Youtube. 

 

Just now, save the frogs said:

 

At some point, you just have to go with your gut and common sense.

So much of the media has hidden agendas ... including Youtube. 

 

If you choose low bars to clear, that's your right. Just as it's mine to point out how useless such low bars are.

23 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

As for AI, anybody who doesn't ask it for links deserves to get false answers. Do you have a problem asking it for links and checking what those links lead to?

I don't ask AI for anything    I listen,watch or read what the author presents and then make up my own mind.

Just now, johng said:

I don't ask AI for anything    I listen,watch or read what the author presents and then make up my own mind.

So when you're looking for relevant information on the internet, do you use telepathy? Because search engines have been so gamed to gain hits with the result that they are a lot less useful than they used to be.

27 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Because search engines have been so gamed to gain hits with the result that they are a lot less useful than they used to be.

Exactly the same with AI  same players  same method  they return the result most likely to be favourable  except with Ai it could be even worse it could be lying to you  because it thinks that is what you want to see/hear/view.

 

3 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

It's not harder? You mean it's just as easy to rewind a video as it is to move your eyeballs? And do the same a third or fourth time? And if you want to check the validity of what has been uttered All you have to do is cut and paste it into a search engine or AI.  It seems clear you don't have much experience questioning what it is you view on videos. Your taking at face value that video snippet of Trump and alleged disrespect supports my point.

 

yeah dont read stuff yourself, just let IA tell you what it says..

What if AI is wrong?  It's a computer program digging up information on the internet, anything and everything someone post and compiling that information, so how do you know it's correct and didn't get wrong information or only information on what someone thinks is correct!!! 

 

here's a good example: My friend never heard of Charlie Kirk before he died. She went online and checked google, MSN, AI etc and what she originally came up with was that he 

was a racist and a bully.  However, when we met for lunch and started talking about him and I told her she needs to watch his full videos.

A few days later she came to a different opinion because she found the original information was incorrect, small clips with only part of the conversation that makes it looks bad and then other material written by someone with an agenda. She admitted she was wrong about him and saw he was respectful to everyone he debated with, found out he financially supported allot of young black men business.

 

Maybe I'm old school but I would never let anyone tell me what to think. I take what is said and check into things myself. Sometimes it takes days and I might change my mind a few times during that period. I dont let other people tell me what to think no way am I going to let a computer program tell me what to think. I'll take in all the information available and then dig in myself.  

 

For the AI program all someone has to do is change the code to push their agenda. 

4 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, it's not.

Information is information.

Fine if you prefer text, but video is a not so new medium and Youtube is the biggest site after Google. 

 

 

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