Watching the world’s foremost democratic republic descend into a fascist, authoritarian regime is heart breaking. I honestly never thought it could happen. If we recover from this, historians will look back at how it came about, no doubt with references to Hitler’s Germany. History repeating itself is something we hear but don’t believe because we feel we have moved so much forward it could never happen again. I guess not.

Who is delegitimizing  the administration and its supporters who won a Election by a landslide with a agenda to mass deport illegals and restore law & order  antifascist while declaring Fascism ?

 

It gets a little bit tiresome to be called fascists  when the Government is enforcing law made by a Congressional bi partisian effort enacted decades ago.

 

 The usual characters USA far left extremists ,Antifa:

 

"Individuals involved in the movement subscribe to a range of left-wing ideologies, and tend to hold anti-authoritarian, anti-capitalist, and anti-state views. A majority of individuals involved are anarchists, communists, and socialists,^[7] although some social democrats also participate in the antifa movement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

 

1 hour ago, Des1 said:

Watching the world’s foremost democratic republic descend into a fascist, authoritarian regime is heart breaking. I honestly never thought it could happen. If we recover from this, historians will look back at how it came about, no doubt with references to Hitler’s Germany. History repeating itself is something we hear but don’t believe because we feel we have moved so much forward it could never happen again. I guess not.

 

Yes the Democrats need to change

 

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Yes the Democrats need to change

 

 

The Op starts with democratic republic. !  The citizens have spoken in my country Nov. 5th. 

"Watching the world’s foremost democratic republic descend into a fascist, authoritarian regime is heart breaking. I honestly never thought it could happen. If we recover from this, historians will look back at how it came about, no doubt with references to Hitler’s Germany. History repeating itself is something we hear but don’t believe because we feel we have moved so much forward it could never happen again. I guess not".

 

Ai overview:

The U.S. is a representative democracy because its citizens elect officials to represent them in government

16 minutes ago, riclag said:

Who is delegitimizing  the administration and its supporters who won a Election by a landslide with a agenda to mass deport illegals and restore law & order  antifascist while declaring Fascism ?

 

It gets a little bit tiresome to be called fascists  when the Government is enforcing law made by a Congressional bi partisian effort enacted decades ago.

 

 The usual characters USA far left extremists ,Antifa:

 

"Individuals involved in the movement subscribe to a range of left-wing ideologies, and tend to hold anti-authoritarian, anti-capitalist, and anti-state views. A majority of individuals involved are anarchists, communists, and socialists,^[7] although some social democrats also participate in the antifa movement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

 

I am not saying the government is delegitimized. Of course they won the election. What we are seeing is that leverage being used for fascist purposes. Which the majority seem to support.

6 minutes ago, Des1 said:

I am not saying the government is delegitimized. Of course they won the election. What we are seeing is that leverage being used for fascist purposes. Which the majority seem to support.

Calling   fascism  by the usual comminist /socialist  is delegitimizing a administration who won through a democratic process . It stands to reason the dark forces of Kill US /Burn US would come to that conclusion .

You people never mention past millions upon millions being deported by administrations of the past.

19 minutes ago, riclag said:

 

The Op starts with democratic republic. !  The citizens have spoken in my country Nov. 5th. 

"Watching the world’s foremost democratic republic descend into a fascist, authoritarian regime is heart breaking. I honestly never thought it could happen. If we recover from this, historians will look back at how it came about, no doubt with references to Hitler’s Germany. History repeating itself is something we hear but don’t believe because we feel we have moved so much forward it could never happen again. I guess not".

 

Ai overview:

The U.S. is a representative democracy because its citizens elect officials to represent them in government

they are still required to conduct themselves within that same structure... this is not happening

 

1 minute ago, Des1 said:

for sure but it will go unheard

Not sure what that means, but governments, suggesting democratic ideals, will represent everyone.

 

No, not socialist and communist its anti Capitalism  ,anti America .

The country rejected everything you stand for on Nov 5th and because your team can't when elections  they resort to violence.intimidation, terror tactics..

1 minute ago, riclag said:

No, not socialist and communist its anti Capitalism  ,anti America .

The country rejected everything you stand for on Nov 5th and because your team can't when elections  they resort to violence.intimidation, terror tactics..

translation into English, please

 

Shadow dockets, unsigned, unsupported from the likes of Amy Barrett are undermining the laws set by congress and giving Trump opportunities the constitution was designed to prevent.....exactly what happened in Germany......THE DUEL STATE

 

 

The Dual State by Ernst Fraenkel, a German Jewish labor lawyer who fled the Nazis in 1938. Fraenkel’s book analysed how the Nazis had created two coexistent legal systems.

 

There was the normative one that kept the economy of Germany running as usual. And then there was the separate legal system that operated alongside it, in which anyone deemed an enemy of the regime was stripped of all rights and subjected to arbitrary violence.

In the footnote, Jackson quotes The Dual States’s description of the way unchecked power is incompatible with the rule of law:

 

See E Fraenkel, The Dual State, pp xiii, 3, 71 (1941) (describing the way in which the creation of a ‘Prerogative State’ where the Executive ‘exercises unlimited arbitrariness … unchecked by any legal guarantees’ is incompatible with the rule of law)

7 minutes ago, riclag said:

Calling   fascism  by the usual comminist /socialist  is delegitimizing a administration who won through a democratic process . It stands to reason the dark forces of Kill US /Burn US would come to that conclusion .

You people never mention past millions upon millions being deported by administrations of the past.

 

36 minutes ago, riclag said:

Who is delegitimizing  the administration and its supporters who won a Election by a landslide with a agenda to mass deport illegals and restore law & order  antifascist while declaring Fascism ?

 

It gets a little bit tiresome to be called fascists  when the Government is enforcing law made by a Congressional bi partisian effort enacted decades ago.

 

 The usual characters USA far left extremists ,Antifa:

 

"Individuals involved in the movement subscribe to a range of left-wing ideologies, and tend to hold anti-authoritarian, anti-capitalist, and anti-state views. A majority of individuals involved are anarchists, communists, and socialists,^[7] although some social democrats also participate in the antifa movement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

 

a landslide...NOT

1 hour ago, Des1 said:

Watching the world’s foremost democratic republic descend into a fascist, authoritarian regime is heart breaking. I honestly never thought it could happen. If we recover from this, historians will look back at how it came about, no doubt with references to Hitler’s Germany. History repeating itself is something we hear but don’t believe because we feel we have moved so much forward it could never happen again. I guess not.

 

No source for factual claims ,"democratic republic descend into a fascist, authoritarian regime"

Ba bye

 

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

No source for factual claims ,"democratic republic descend into a fascist, authoritarian regime"

Ba bye

 

A source? Just open your eyes.

45 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Yes the Democrats need to change

 

I thought he was talking about the UK

It doesn't really matter if it's technically fascism or not.

Fascism isn't one thing.

It manifests itself very differently at different times in different cultures.

What does matter is that RIGHT NOW the USA has declined into a radically authoritarian situation and technically fascism or not, is kind of like stressing over the differences between breeds of dogs. They're all dogs. 

I realize many or most of the magas love this. That's their right but those that love this are not even close to a majority of Americans.

In my view, anyone talking about the USA reality now that denies the authoritarianism (or whatever similar label that you find more to your liking) has ZERO credibility and engaging with such people is generally a waste of time as such people are usually in the CULT. Maybe exceptions if you're a professional cult deprogrammer. Maga people converted are not going to save American democracy if it is going to be saved. It will need to be a coalition of everyone else including traditional conservative republicans, independents, the apolitical, etc.

Just now, Jingthing said:

It doesn't really matter if it's technically fascism or not.

Fascism isn't one thing.

It manifests itself very differently at different times in different cultures.

What does matter is that RIGHT NOW the USA has declined into a radically authoritarian situation and technically fascism or not, is kind of like stressing over the differences between breeds of dogs. They're all dogs. 

I realize many or most of the magas love this. That's their right but those that love this are not even close to a majority of Americans.

In my view, anyone talking about the USA reality now that denies the authoritarianism (or whatever similar label that you find more to your liking) has ZERO credibility and engaging with such people is generally a waste of time as such people are usually in the CULT. Maybe exceptions if you're a professional cult deprogrammer. Maga people converted are not going to save American democracy if it is going to be saved. It will need to be a coalition of everyone else including traditional conservative republicans, independents, the apolitical, etc.

Of course, fascism is whatever the left says it is.

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Of course, fascism is whatever the left says it is.

well, I actually read through it all. I have no reply one way or the other. Sorry

2 minutes ago, Des1 said:

well, I actually read through it all. I have no reply one way or the other. Sorry

Yet you felt obligated to rely anyways, got it. 

6 minutes ago, Des1 said:

well, I actually read through it all. I have no reply one way or the other. Sorry

Just trying to not interfere

with the USA future

 

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yet you felt obligated to rely anyways, got it. 

sorry you don"t understand

 

3 minutes ago, Des1 said:

Just trying to not interfere

with the USA future

 

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

1 minute ago, Des1 said:

sorry you don"t understand

 

 

From the OP, wasn't sure what country OP was referring to. 

 

Ah ... Just another hate spewing thread about,  USA, Left / Right, (fake fascist/Hitler) thread.   The other 100s simply don't seem to be enough.

 

Got it ... carry on ... 😎

9 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

From the OP, wasn't sure what country OP was referring to. 

 

Ah ... Just another hate spewing thread about,  USA, Left / Right, (fake fascist/Hitler) thread.   The other 100s simply don't seem to be enough.

 

Got it ... carry on ... 😎

oh, my. Does it matter which country? Hate spewing  seems to be the MO of the fascist USA regime.

 

4 minutes ago, Des1 said:

oh, my. Does it matter which country? Hate spewing  seems to be the MO of the fascist USA regime.

 

Seriously ... mentioning fascist & Adolf, and associated with anything, anyone USA is just retarded.  Poster really loses any respect or remote possibility of having any intelligence.   

 

Have a good day 

BYE BYE

People get the definition of "fascism" completely wrong these days and have no idea of what it was really like in its hay-day. People these days get called fascist for being center-ground or mildly right, or even slightly to the right of Stalin. Anyone who uses the word "fascist" for anything other than the most extreme of the extreme like ISIS is showing a complete ignorance and misunderstanding of history. People that call others in democratic societies a fascist are usually far-lefties that don't understand what real fascists are. Leaders like Trump or Farage you can have your opinion on, but they are not fascists.

The original "fascist" was Mussolini and his black stirts, not Hitler's Germany, as they were national socialists... I know, kind of an inconvenient truth for many. At the time, fascism was actually quite fashionable and Italy was praised by many for having such an effective system. Hitler's Germany adopted it, but the difference was that the Nazis believed in an Aryan race, and fascism locking in well with that, hence the future killing.

The problem is that the word "fascist" has been popularized and is thrown around so much that most people no longer realise it's true meaning... its meaning and significance has been diminished and trivialized. The closest thing to fascists now is extreme Islamic terrorists like ISIS or somewhere like North Korea. If you want an example of far-left fascism, then look at the Soviet Union under Stalin, the NKVD, 1930s purges, Bolshevics etc. People now have no idea of the terror and suffering inflicted by these 20th century entities compared to society now... it was complete and utter terror and oppression back then, and not even close to the mild stuff we see today.

21 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

From the OP, wasn't sure what country OP was referring to. 

 

Ah ... Just another hate spewing thread about,  USA, Left / Right, (fake fascist/Hitler) thread.   The other 100s simply don't seem to be enough.

 

Got it ... carry on ... 😎

good that you got it

 

38 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yet you felt obligated to rely anyways, got it. 

yes, i am allowed my opinion.. mayb it offendes you

12 minutes ago, Des1 said:

yes, i am allowed my opinion..

Like all of us. 

12 minutes ago, Des1 said:

 

mayb it offendes you

Is that what you were hoping? Silly leftist, you have not the power to offend me. 

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Like all of us. 

Is that what you were hoping? Silly leftist, you have not the power to offend me. 

OMG ..get over yourself .. lol

1 minute ago, Des1 said:

OMG ..get over yourself .. lol

OMG...another leftist starving for attention...