7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

That's pretty much what I reported above. The effectiveness varies by year, depending on how well or poorly the chosen vaccine strains match what actually ends up circulating during flu season.

 

I'll take the average 43% reduction in risk vs. going unvaccinated.

 

 

Why do you take the shots?  Because you worry about getting the flu if you don't take the shots.
Why don't I take the shots?  Because I don't worry about getting the flu.

Between 2009 and today, I haven't had the flu.  Have you? How well has taking the shots annually or semi-annuals worked for you?  If you haven't been sick with the flu - good to hear!  

15 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

How do you know what you had?

 

Maybe it was all in his head. 

 

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

A TV report from 2006 is irrelevant for today's flu vaccine discussions. Totally different eras of flu vaccines... But then you already knew that and posted an outdated report anyway...

That's why I posted what I did under the video  because I knew what you would post  before you even posted....see my time machine works too 😋  🤣

 

P.S    'safe and effective'   ™  ® © 

The U.S. has a broader recommendation for the flu vaccine. But even Thailand has the following:

It Has Been a Bad Flu Season. Here Is How You Can Prevent It

Who should get vaccinated?

• People aged 65 years or over
• People aged between 19-64 years who have asthma, heart disease, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
• People who have to be admitted at least 1 time per year from chronic disease such as diabetes, kidney disease, hematologic condition
• Weakened immune system due to disease or medication

 

https://www.bangkokhospital.com/en/bangkok/content/influenza-can-prevented-by-vaccination

 

Have You Received Your Flu Vaccination Yet?
 
"The influenza vaccine remains one of the most effective measures to prevent infection. By receiving the vaccine, your body develops immunity against the influenza virus, significantly lowering the risk of falling ill. Even if infection does occur, vaccination helps reduce symptom severity and minimizes the likelihood of serious complications.

 

Who should receive the influenza vaccine?
The influenza vaccine is especially important for groups at higher risk of severe illness, such as:

• Young children
• Pregnant women
• Older adults
• People with chronic conditions (e.g., asthma, chronic lung disease, heart disease, diabetes, chronic kidney disease, stroke, or weakened immune systems)

 

https://www.bumrungrad.com/en/health-blog/march-2025/new-strain-of-flu-vaccine-2025

 

 

51 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

That's pretty much what I reported above. The effectiveness varies by year, depending on how well or poorly the chosen vaccine strains match what actually ends up circulating during flu season.

 

I'll take the average 43% reduction in risk vs. going unvaccinated.

 

 

Let's face it. You'd take it if the average was ONE percent. 

2 minutes ago, alex8912 said:

Let's face it. You'd take it if the average was ONE percent. 

 

No, I would NOT.

 

Only hard-core anti-vaxers say that kind of nonsense.

 

 

6 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

--AI assisted

 

Also:

Factors affecting the number of influenza patients before and during COVID-19 pandemic, Thailand

2024 May 10

 

"In Thailand, the new influenza A strains (H1N1) 2009 (Influenza A novel H1N1: Pandemic strain) emerged in 2009 which was similar to global situation. There were 120,400 reported cases with the morbidity of 189.73 per 100,000.

...

Morbidity rate had gradually decreased until year 2014, however, it was increasing since then to the year 2019 showed morbidity rate of 596.16 per 100 000.

...

In 2020, influenza cases had decreased during Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic showing morbidity rate of 186.82 per 100 000 population and case fatality rate of 0.002%.

...

During the study period, influenza morbidity rate reached the highest point in year 2019 (606 per 100,000 population), followed by 308.99 per 100,000 (in year 2017), and 282.09 per 100,000 (in year 2018)."

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11086856/

 

yet another thread of you spouting off COVID crap.  Give it a rest...but I don't think it's in your DNA 🤣

12 minutes ago, howlee101 said:

yet another thread of you spouting off COVID crap.  Give it a rest...but I don't think it's in your DNA 🤣

 

The post is about influenza cases, not COVID cases, if you had bothered to read it.

 

8 hours ago, Lorry said:

Are 700,000 more cases than every year?

This has very little to do with the flu. What you are  probably seeing is the side effects of the "vaccines". I have a friend that went to see the doctor  today and she told me that emergency room was full of sick people. 

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

And from Johns Hopkins, tracking COVID death rates in the U.S. cumulatively thru early 2023, which included 2+ years of the impacts of widespread COVID vaccination:

 

 

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

 

 

John Hopkins as your source of "trust the science"...It reminds of Event 201. And the rest is today's history.

26 minutes ago, GoodieAfterDark said:

 

John Hopkins as your source of "trust the science"...It reminds of Event 201. And the rest is today's history.

 

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This has very little to do with the flu. What you are  probably seeing is the side effects of the "vaccines".

 

So you're a believer in made-up conspiracy theories.... in addition to being an anti-vaxer...   Color me not surprised.

 

Event 201 didn’t predict the Covid-19 pandemic

27 April 2020

 

“Event 201” was an exercise organised in October 2019 to simulate what might happen if there was a severe pandemic....

 

The event was real but the fact it took place just before the pandemic started doesn’t mean the organisers had any secret knowledge, which has been suggested by some.

 

The organisers said they ran the exercise because the world has seen a “growing number of epidemic events.” Previous similar exercises run by the same organisations and others have not been followed by similar outbreaks.

 

The specifics of the exercise should not be taken as predictions for the Covid-19 pandemic."

 

https://fullfact.org/health/event-201-coronavirus-pandemic/

 

 

Event 201 isn’t evidence that authorities knew or planned the COVID-19 pandemic

2022-05-20

 

"Awareness of the risks of a pandemic existed before the emergence of COVID-19. The pandemic potential of coronaviruses has been known since at least the SARS outbreak of 2003. This group of viruses is therefore a logical choice for pandemic preparedness events such as Event 201. Thus, the fact that Event 201 occurred months before the COVID-19 is not evidence that the COVID-19 was already known or planned."  [emphasis added]

 

https://science.feedback.org/review/event-201-isnt-evidence-authorities-knew-planned-covid-19-pandemic-robert-f-kennedy-jr/

 

 

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

So you're a believer in made-up conspiracy theories.... in addition to being an anti-vaxer...   Color me not surprised.

 

Event 201 didn’t predict the Covid-19 pandemic

27 April 2020

 

“Event 201” was an exercise organised in October 2019 to simulate what might happen if there was a severe pandemic....

 

The event was real but the fact it took place just before the pandemic started doesn’t mean the organisers had any secret knowledge, which has been suggested by some.

 

The organisers said they ran the exercise because the world has seen a “growing number of epidemic events.” Previous similar exercises run by the same organisations and others have not been followed by similar outbreaks.

 

The specifics of the exercise should not be taken as predictions for the Covid-19 pandemic."

 

https://fullfact.org/health/event-201-coronavirus-pandemic/

 

 

Event 201 isn’t evidence that authorities knew or planned the COVID-19 pandemic

2022-05-20

 

"Awareness of the risks of a pandemic existed before the emergence of COVID-19. The pandemic potential of coronaviruses has been known since at least the SARS outbreak of 2003. This group of viruses is therefore a logical choice for pandemic preparedness events such as Event 201. Thus, the fact that Event 201 occurred months before the COVID-19 is not evidence that the COVID-19 was already known or planned."  [emphasis added]

 

https://science.feedback.org/review/event-201-isnt-evidence-authorities-knew-planned-covid-19-pandemic-robert-f-kennedy-jr/

 

 

 

Please remember the OP is about the flu, not Covid, as you quoted yourself! Thanks.

1 hour ago, GoodieAfterDark said:

This has very little to do with the flu. What you are  probably seeing is the side effects of the "vaccines". I have a friend that went to see the doctor  today and she told me that emergency room was full of sick people. 

Bang on the money there Buddy.

10 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

--AI assisted

 

Also:

Factors affecting the number of influenza patients before and during COVID-19 pandemic, Thailand

2024 May 10

 

"In Thailand, the new influenza A strains (H1N1) 2009 (Influenza A novel H1N1: Pandemic strain) emerged in 2009 which was similar to global situation. There were 120,400 reported cases with the morbidity of 189.73 per 100,000.

...

Morbidity rate had gradually decreased until year 2014, however, it was increasing since then to the year 2019 showed morbidity rate of 596.16 per 100 000.

...

In 2020, influenza cases had decreased during Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic showing morbidity rate of 186.82 per 100 000 population and case fatality rate of 0.002%.

...

During the study period, influenza morbidity rate reached the highest point in year 2019 (606 per 100,000 population), followed by 308.99 per 100,000 (in year 2017), and 282.09 per 100,000 (in year 2018)."

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11086856/

 

Thx for being the one who answered my question.

I was hoping you woul do this.

 

And the antivaxxers who use each and every thread to spray their vitriolic covid nonsense should have a special playground. Just disgusting.

On 10/10/2025 at 4:00 PM, Bacon1 said:

Had it for the last 10 days, felt absolutely vile. Fever, cough, sneezing, not eat.

 

Yes, me too. Had a very bad cold, initially causing breathing problems and fever, and, as I still had to go to work, it lasted for not less than 14 days.

Tall guy in Bangkok as you can see calls anyone who even presses him an anti-vaxer. What a winner! 

8 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

No, I would NOT.

 

Only hard-core anti-vaxers say that kind of nonsense.

 

 

Yes you WOULD. 

5 hours ago, alex8912 said:

Tall guy in Bangkok as you can see calls anyone who even presses him an anti-vaxer. What a winner! 

 

Actually, I only call anti-vaxers as anti-vaxers.

 

Like people who write the word vaccines using "quote" marks as you did above, trying to suggest they're not really actual vaccines.

 

Which is a common anti-vaxers' refrain.

 

 

20 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

How do you know what you had?

That's a comya trouble maker would make....bit like me

1 hour ago, Aussie999 said:

That's a comya trouble maker would make....bit like me

Very droll Sir.

 

What I'm getting at, is how do you know that the sickness wa  anything other that a natural body reaction to remove undesirables from an overloaded body.

 

Not saying he was not sick/ill. But he never had any disease. His sickness might have started a year earlier, and the body was taking care of business evey since.

19 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

This just is not so.

 

Influenza is not caused by a virus. To say so is anti-science, anti-nature and downright untruthful.

Stop spreading lies and false information Stiddle Mump, are you just out to cause troble on threads.

 

 

20 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

That's pretty much what I reported above. The effectiveness varies by year, depending on how well or poorly the chosen vaccine strains match what actually ends up circulating during flu season.

 

I'll take the average 43% reduction in risk vs. going unvaccinated.

 

 

And I will take the unvaccinated state as I am very healthy and do not want to put unnatural crap in my body:

 

The influenza viruses contained in the egg-based trivalent 2024 to 2025Trusted Source flu vaccine are:

• the influenza A virus H1N1, also known as the Victoria strain
• the influenza A virus H3N2, also known as the Thailand strain
• an influenza B virus known as the Austria strain

The viruses in the cell- or recombinant-based trivalent vaccines are:

• the influenza A virus H1N1, also known as the Wisconsin strain
• the influenza A virus H3N2, also known as the Massachusetts strain
• an influenza B virus known as the Austria strain

 

NO, THANKS, no way for me. I do not want to put that crap in my body. 

27 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

And I will take the unvaccinated state as I am very healthy and do not want to put unnatural crap in my body:

 

 

The strange history of the anti-vaccine movement

7 September 2025

...

"one common trope was that immunisations should be avoided because they were "unnatural" – making vaccines the latest victim of the "appeal to nature" fallacy, a rhetorical technique that frames something as "good" by virtue of it being natural (and "bad" if it's thought not to be). This isn't a logical argument – arsenic, Ebola and uranium are perfectly natural but ill-advised additions to one's breakfast cereal."

 

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20250905-the-strange-history-of-the-anti-vaccine-movement

 

 

Youv'e been rumbled Stiddle Mump caught our spreading false information. Your better off waiting for another rhread you can try and poisen.

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The strange history of the anti-vaccine movement

7 September 2025

...

"one common trope was that immunisations should be avoided because they were "unnatural" – making vaccines the latest victim of the "appeal to nature" fallacy, a rhetorical technique that frames something as "good" by virtue of it being natural (and "bad" if it's thought not to be). This isn't a logical argument – arsenic, Ebola and uranium are perfectly natural but ill-advised additions to one's breakfast cereal."

 

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20250905-the-strange-history-of-the-anti-vaccine-movement

 

 

Well the cemetry's are full of fallen hero's for their beliefs.

19 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The post is about influenza cases, not COVID cases, if you had bothered to read it.

 

gave up reading years ago

22 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The figure you're selectively citing above was from 2020 when widespread COVID containment measures -- which you undoubtedly opposed -- cut the flu incidence in the U.S., Thailand and elsewhere to very low levels.

 

You selectively left out the more real-world flu mortality data pertinent to today's non lockdown environment:

'

"During the study period, influenza morbidity rate reached the highest point in year 2019 (606 per 100,000 population), followed by 308.99 per 100,000 (in year 2017), and 282.09 per 100,000 (in year 2018)."

 

The above 2019 flu morbidity rate reported for Thailand was 0.6%, and that in the context of COVID during the initial years of the pandemic have a much higher morbidity rate than the flu.

 

 

Compared to 2020 with COVID pre-vaccines:

 

"By April 25, the U.S. had more than 905,000 confirmed coronavirus cases and nearly 52,000 deaths, giving it a mortality rate around 5.7 percent. (In comparison, Spain's mortality rate was 10.2 percent and Italy's was 13.5 percent.)

...

As of early August 2020, among the 45 countries that had over 50,000 cases, the U.S. had the eighth highest number of deaths per-capita. Its case fatality ratio, however, was significantly better where it ranked 24th in the world, with 3.3% of its cases resulting in death.^[95] Several studies suggested that the number of infections was far higher than officially reported, and thus that the infection fatality rate was far lower than the case fatality rate.

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_States

 

 

 

only influenza huh?  More of your propaganda about COVID

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Stop spreading lies and false information Stiddle Mump, are you just out to cause troble on threads.

 

 

Watched the short vid. absolute claptrap.

 

Completely wrong about the Spanish Flu.

Your rumbled and a liar. You said  " Influenza was not a virus " I have prooved to you it is a Virus, unless of course you disbelieve National Geographic and all the other videos. Back up your claim with a reputible piece of evidence that it is not a virus and not from a anti Vac dark web Source that is accepted on here.

22 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Your rumbled and a liar. You said  " Influenza was not a virus " I have prooved to you it is a Virus, unless of course you disbelieve National Geographic and all the other videos. Back up your claim with a reputible piece of evidence that it is not a virus and not from a anti Vac dark web Source that is accepted on here.

Thanks for the reply Sir.

 

As I say; the vid is nonsense. 

 

Who has found a virus that causes disease? Dr Enders came closest in 1954.