1 hour ago, BLMFem said:

Because it's subsidized by Magastan's richest state.

 

Say, "Thank you, Gavin"!

 

 

Bingo …..my tax dollars at work supporting failed red states with rampant crime and lousy schools……kinda ….choke gasp 😮 hell holes!!!yeiks Donnie!!!

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

As for how supposedly great things are in the U.S., check the news elsewhere in this forum today:

 

Half of U.S. states sliding into recession, Moody’s warns

 

 

"The U.S. economy may look strong on paper — with 3.8% GDP growth and 4.3% unemployment — but underneath the surface, roughly half the country is effectively in recession, according to Moody’s Analytics chief economist Mark Zandi.

 

In an exclusive interview with Fortune, Zandi said 22 states are contracting, while 13 are “treading water.” Only 16 are still expanding, and it’s the economic strength of California, Texas, and New York keeping the national numbers afloat. “Depending on where you live and who you are,” Zandi warned, “the environment around you is recessionary.”

 

Lower- and middle-income Americans are “hanging on by their fingertips,” burdened by debt, slowing wage growth, and fading confidence despite steady employment. “They’ve got jobs,” Zandi said, “but the grip feels more tenuous … if layoffs pick up, that group is gonna get nailed — they have no savings, just debt.”

...

The underlying reality, he said, is that America’s post-pandemic economy is “tethered to the wealthy.” High earners continue to spend, masking distress below the surface. But for millions living paycheck to paycheck, “it already feels like a recession — everything except: ‘I’ve got a job.’”

 

Original Source:

 

And Mississippi seems to be on the "recession" states list, per the accompanying map with the above article:

 

 

 

 

3.8% is not the year to year growth. It's the Q2/Q1 growth rate (0.9) annualized (multiplied by 4).

 

The year to year growth is 2.1% and forecasts for 2026 are currently 1.8-1.9%.

 

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/

6 minutes ago, candide said:

 

Hahaha!

 

in 2019, UK's GDP (nominal) per Capita was around 10% higher than Mississippi's GDP per capita. 

 

So ? 

 

I wonder if anything happened after 2019 that had any effect on those numbers.

 

 

2 hours ago, freedomnow said:

UK = tax everything that moves.

 

Disincentive to go balls deep in commerce.

 

 

The Beetles, got it right with the lyrics to their song.

14 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

So ? 

 

I wonder if anything happened after 2019 that had any effect on those numbers.

 

 

The OP is about Mississippi's GDP per capita being now higher than UK's GDP per capita. It was not the case before Covid in 2019 (using 2020's GDP would be irrelevant). So it happened under Biden, and it can be explained by the fact that the US growth rate was nearly 4 times higher than UK's during Biden's mandate.

 

Of course, there are some reasons behind UK's low numbers, such as Brexit or the war in Ukraine, but they cannot explain such a large difference.

12 minutes ago, Tug said:

Bingo …..my tax dollars at work supporting failed red states with rampant crime and lousy schools……kinda ….choke gasp 😮 hell holes!!!yeiks Donnie!!!

That's not true at all.   It's another stupid leftist narrative pushed by non-thinking people. 

 

 

1 minute ago, candide said:

The OP is about Mississippi's GDP per capita being now higher than UK's GDP per capita. It was not the case before Covid in 2019 (using 2020's GDP would be irrelevant). So it happened under Biden, and it can be explained by the fact that the US growth rate was nearly 4 times higher than UK's during Biden's mandate.

 

If you say so. Please do also go into detail about covid spending of Biden vs UK. 

 

Im sure that had nothing to do with it.

14 minutes ago, Tug said:

Bingo …..my tax dollars at work supporting failed red states with rampant crime and lousy schools……kinda ….choke gasp 😮 hell holes!!!yeiks Donnie!!!

BTW...the test scores are going up in Mississippi.    CA is last.

 

Using 2025 data, New Hampshire has the highest adult literacy rate in the United States at 94.2%, while California has the lowest at 76.9%

. The national average adult literacy rate is 79%. 

 

https://www.nu.edu/blog/49-adult-literacy-statistics-and-facts/#:~:text=third-grade level.-,State-by-State Adult Literacy Statistics,$49.8 million in 2019–2020.

I mean the United States is richer than God. There's never been a nation as wealthy as America in the history of the world. To even compare Britain to an American state is frankly preposterous. 

 

Britain is a failed empire that is on its last legs, disintegrating before our very eyes, a mere shadow of the proud nation it once was, having brought forth giants such as Cecil Rhodes. Now they have Gary Neville.

 

To compare the United States to something like Britain is just, well, not cricket...

56 minutes ago, TedG said:

 

 

Mississippi has a higher GDP per person than Mississippi.  The GDP of Miss is $ 53,061 in 2024 compared to the UK's $52,636.79 in 2024.   This means that the people of Mississippi have more purchasing power than those in the UK.  

 

But as the prior article I posted noted, your kind of comparison does NOT fully take into consideration the differing prices in the two comparison areas, and thus the ensuing differences in purchasing power.

 

"Gross Domestic Product (GDP) comparisons can account for purchasing power differences through the use of Purchasing Power Parity (PPP). By adjusting GDP figures using PPP, economists can compare the real volume of goods and services produced in different countries, providing a more accurate representation of living standards and economic well-being than nominal GDP alone."

 

 

46 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Psychology studies have been conducted. One thing they found is people compare themselves to other people in their proximity. If everyone is at a similar standard of living around you, then it feels "normal". Unless you're in abject poverty.

 

So it makes no difference what the GDP in UK is. The people in Isaan don't compare themselves to people living in California. 

 

And anyway, I have found many Westerners to never be content with their lot in life, even though they have a lot. 

 

Did you happen to watch the video?  Two Brits were comparing the UK to the USA.  

11 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Did you happen to watch the video?  

 

No, I didn't watch it.

Contentment is a choice. You need to stop comparing yourself to others or there will always be someone richer than you somewhere and you will always be bitter.

Unless you're truly in poverty. 

One reason people hate Trump so much is simply because he's too rich and successful and it makes people bitter. 

 

8 minutes ago, TedG said:

BTW...the test scores are going up in Mississippi.    CA is last.

 

Using 2025 data, New Hampshire has the highest adult literacy rate in the United States at 94.2%, while California has the lowest at 76.9%

. The national average adult literacy rate is 79%. 

 

https://www.nu.edu/blog/49-adult-literacy-statistics-and-facts/#:~:text=third-grade level.-,State-by-State Adult Literacy Statistics,$49.8 million in 2019–2020.

 

 

And yet:

 

 

--AI assisted

 

10 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

If you say so. Please do also go into detail about covid spending of Biden vs UK. 

 

Im sure that had nothing to do with it.

Of course, the US stimuli played a key role in obtaining this growth rate.

 

However, as I replied already to another poster, the debt increase rates in UK and the US were similar (around 30%).

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

And yet:

 

 

--AI assisted

 

What does this have to do with the adult literacy rate that I talked about in my post?

13 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

"Gross Domestic Product (GDP) comparisons can account for purchasing power differences through the use of Purchasing Power Parity (PPP). By adjusting GDP figures using PPP, economists can compare the real volume of goods and services produced in different countries, providing a more accurate representation of living standards and economic well-being than nominal GDP alone."

The GDP per capita (PPP, in current international dollars) for the United Kingdom in 2024 is about 52,518 USD

 

GDP per capita, PPP (current international $)

For the USA in 2024 is about 75,492 USD

10 minutes ago, TedG said:

 

The GDP per capita (PPP, in current international dollars) for the United Kingdom in 2024 is about 52,518 USD

 

 

GDP per capita, PPP (current international $)

For the USA in 2024 is about 75,492 USD

 

 

I think the applicable comparison here was the UK vs Mississippi, not the UK vs the entire US.

 

19 minutes ago, candide said:

Of course, the US stimuli played a key role in obtaining this growth rate.

 

However, as I replied already to another poster, the debt increase rates in UK and the US were similar (around 30%).

 

Spending is the key. No one really cares about debt.

22 minutes ago, TedG said:

What does this have to do with the adult literacy rate that I talked about in my post?

 

There are different ways and measures of comparing different places.

 

Some people, perhaps even me, might argue that GDP is a broader and more encompassing indicator than adult literacy alone... 

 

California obviously has a very large population of non-English native language immigrants. But that hasn't stopped the state from having the fourth largest economy in the world and the largest by far among all U.S. states.

 

Diversity and the benefits immigration and immigrants bring to the native workforce are good things!

 

 

1 minute ago, blaze master said:

 

Spending is the key. No one really cares about debt.

Why do you think that UK's debt increased during and after the pandemic, as well as in France, etc...?

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

There are different ways and measures of comparing different places.

 

Some people, perhaps even me, might argue that GDP is a broader and more encompassing indicator than adult literacy alone... 

 

California obviously has a very large population of non-English native language immigrants. But that hasn't stopped the state from having the fourth largest economy in the world and the largest by far among all U.S. states.

 

Diversity and the benefits immigration and immigrants bring to the native workforce are good things!

 

 

CA has the largest population in the USA.  But, CA is not number one as far as GDP per person

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/248063/per-capita-us-real-gross-domestic-product-gdp-by-state/

 

 

9 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

I think the applicable comparison here was the UK vs Mississippi, not the UK vs the entire US.

 

If you can find better numbers, please do so.   There are no numbers per state.   They are only regional cost differences.   This favors Mississippi in this discussion. 

6 minutes ago, candide said:

Why do you think that UK's debt increased during and after the pandemic, as well as in France, etc...?

 

Failing nations. 

It's called the American Dream - because you have to be asleep to believe it - George Carlin (RIP)

Just now, blaze master said:

 

Failing nations. 

Why don't you contribute with facts and data, for a change?

4 minutes ago, candide said:

Why don't you contribute with facts and data, for a change?

 

Nope. Open your eyes for a change.

Reading this OP, one wonders if people here travel much. Mississippi is piss poor. Between that, and eastern Arkansas, my god you'd have more fun in eastern Montana. 

Jackson is nice and the people are ok, same with Oxford & Pascagoula. Saying that, most of the state is dying shells of small Ag based towns. What was that line on True Detective ... 'This place is like somebody's memory of a town, and the memory is fading . It's like there was never anything here but jungle' Never more true than Mississippi. 

A state based on slavery, then sharecropping once the civil war made that illegal. The flood destroyed the best of the delta a hundred years ago. a wasteland.

1. Australia – $34,515
2. New Zealand – $33,487
3. Luxembourg – $32,103
4. Germany – $30,529
5. United Kingdom – $29,690
6. Ireland – $28,302
7. Netherlands – $24,925
8. France – $24,259
9. Canada – $24,128
10. Monaco – $24,09
11. Minimum wages

Let me ask something...

 

You have 2 people. One is modest man, who has paid off home, no credit card or other debt, and 100,000 $ of savings.

 

The other is a wealthy man, who has a lot of bank loan access, but no real cash in hand, all properties are owned by companies of which he owns shares, and he has a significant credit card spending to keep up the image.

 

Which is richer?

10 minutes ago, still kicking said:

1. Australia – $34,515
2. New Zealand – $33,487
3. Luxembourg – $32,103
4. Germany – $30,529
5. United Kingdom – $29,690
6. Ireland – $28,302
7. Netherlands – $24,925
8. France – $24,259
9. Canada – $24,128
10. Monaco – $24,09
11. Minimum wages

Here are some of the countries with the most pet cats: 

United States: Around 95.6 million

China: Over 53 million

Russia: Approximately 23 million

Brazil: Roughly 22 million

Germany: About 16.7 million

France: Around 15.1 million

United Kingdom: Approximately 12 million

Italy: About 10 million