11 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Why do we get sick?

 

Free radicals / oxidative stress is a main factor in illness. 

 

Need vitamins / minerals / antioxidants / polyphenols to fight off the bad guys (free radicals).

 

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

We do get sick; some more often than others. But, what does 'getting sick/ill' actually mean? What is actually happening in our bodies to make us feel poorly? Why do illnesses do us harm, and even kill us? Why do we get the runs? Why do we get headaches? Why do we get rashes? What are coughs and sneezes actually for?

 

The dreaded cancer. What is it? Is it a good thing to detect a tumor? Obviously, it's better not to develop one. But what would have been the result if a tumor had not been formed?

 

What should we do, as we age (70+) to ensure the best of health?

 

If this topic gets you thinking, and you'd like to hear what I've got to say, and discuss aspects of it; then let's get to it. But!! Be prepared to read some stuff that you might never of thought of; and probably not read anywhere else.

 

And! Just as a side issue: I'm not one for copying and pasting huge extracts from the www. If I don't know it; I'll not be searching Google, looking it us.

All questions you cannot answer. Sell it somewhere else.

I don't know if I will live longer than most.  Much depends on luck when determining lifespan.  My goal is to live mentally and physically healthy as long as possible.  To do that I do things everyday that I would rather not but because of them I am extremely healthy physically.  Mentally - I'm working on it  but not as simple.

 

Don't rely on doctors! Doctors are great when you need them but how often do most see doctors? Rarely and usually when something is terribly wrong.   Measure cardiovascular and metabolic (blood sugar monitor) health daily or at least every couple weeks is a good start. If blood pressure numbers and metabolic health are exceptional then the odds are you are healthy.  Throw in some blood tests periodically and learn about what the results indicate.

 

Might slip in the shower tomorrow and break my hip but today I'm healthy.

3 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

All questions you cannot answer. Sell it somewhere else.

Ask a question Sir. I'll try to answer it as best I can.

Was listening to a song and then looked up the singer's death.

 

This guy had multiple complications and sometimes the medications themselves can cause problems. 

 

One of the medications actually suppressed his immune system and he wasn't able to fight off the pneumonia. 

 

Please don't tell me "the immune system does not exist". I don't want to hear it!

 

12 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Was listening to a song and then looked up the singer's death.

 

This guy had multiple complications and sometimes the medications themselves can cause problems. 

 

One of the medications actually suppressed his immune system and he wasn't able to fight off the pneumonia. 

 

Please don't tell me "the immune system does not exist". I don't want to hear it!

 

TBH, I've never heard of the guy.

 

As for the immune system; I think the term has been hi-jacked by the immunologists and virologists. Our whole body is a defense and maintenance system. Working 24-7-365 to keep us in good health and to ensure that we are able to fight of the nasties when - and they surely will - come our way.

7 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

I'd say there are a few things that lead to bad health other than the obvious lifestyle ones that everyone knows about (like smoking, alcohol consumption, and obesity etc.).

1. If you have poor mitochondrial function, as this is increasingly being recognised as playing a large roll in many diseases. Basically, they produce energy and regulate the life span of cells etc. and when not working properly can damage organs in the body (a very basic description though, I admit). Best way to get this working properly is to have a healthy gut, so that means eating healthy, taking pro-biotics/sterols etc., amongst other things.

 

2. Poor quality of ubiquitous mass-produced food and UPF. When you look at the ingredient list of many things it reads like some long list of things you've never even heard of (i.e. Frankenstein foods) that belongs in a chemistry lesson at university.

 

3. Environmental pollution. Most people have no idea how much environmental pollution they are subjected to each day in so many different ways, especially from the air and plastics... even many food and water sources are compromised. It's impossible to avoid and can only be limited a bit through your actions. Many foods are simply toxic because of corner-cutting and greed to make profit... better to cook at home as these days you just don't know what you are eating at many (not all) restaurants etc.

 

4. Sugar. Sugar is one of the most detrimental things you can eat and has only recently found its way into our general diet to such a huge extent. It's cheap, makes things taste better, gives you instant energy and all that, but it is not in sink with our body or health. For many tens of thousands of years, there was pretty much no sugar in our diet really, other than fruit (fructose not the refined nonsense), and many places would have had little fruit, so when our bodies did get sugar the body quickly turned any excess into fat so it could be used later and helped us to survive harsher times. Nowadays, sugar is so widerspread that the very function that saved us long ago now works against us, as the body still converts any excess into fat... hence the obesity problem everywhere now. Best thing you can do is only eat limitted amounts of sugar, even though it is everywhere and in so many things... hard to avoid.

 

5. Genes and DNA. Some are more blessed with this than others and it's a spin of the wheel when born. Hard to explain sometimes when a 32 year-old athelete gets cancer and dies whereas many functioning alcoholics live into their late 70s etc.

 

There are likely others too, but that will do for today.

 

 

Sugar 100%.

 

I will add that people drink too little water and don't sleep enough – those two factors are very harmful to the body and cause a plethora of ailments.

5 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Ask a question Sir. I'll try to answer it as best I can.

You already posed the questions. Nice deflection try. Regardless, your medical ramblings are all based in lies, so your conclusions are irrelevant.

8 hours ago, atpeace said:

I don't know if I will live longer than most.  Much depends on luck when determining lifespan.  My goal is to live mentally and physically healthy as long as possible.  To do that I do things everyday that I would rather not but because of them I am extremely healthy physically.  Mentally - I'm working on it  but not as simple.

 

Don't rely on doctors! Doctors are great when you need them but how often do most see doctors? Rarely and usually when something is terribly wrong.   Measure cardiovascular and metabolic (blood sugar monitor) health daily or at least every couple weeks is a good start. If blood pressure numbers and metabolic health are exceptional then the odds are you are healthy.  Throw in some blood tests periodically and learn about what the results indicate.

 

Might slip in the shower tomorrow and break my hip but today I'm healthy.

I only see my doctor when I need my prescription renewed, which i can't get without seeing my doctor, but that is only every 10 months. 

 

8 hours ago, still kicking said:

I only see my doctor when I need my prescription renewed, which i can't get without seeing my doctor, but that is only every 10 months. 

How do you monitor your health and how old are you? 

 

Not many healthy people here that are constantly seeing doctors and relying on meds to normalize their existence. Diabetes and cardiovascular health can be controlled regardless of genetics 99% of the time up to the time where they become a major issue and outside experts are needed to remedy the mess the person created.

 

Like I said Docs are great when you need them and I "think" many vaccinations are a good idea.   Hard to figure it all out but why people just take the easy route and then expect good health is odd.

19 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

Your beliefs don't begin to describe the real world and thankfully also do not impact it.  It remains what it is despite your faulty thinking.

 

In reality the infectious agents are also evolving via natural selection.  Those variants that successfully reproduce displace the less successful variants over time.  The result is a constant slowly unfolding battle between us and the 'bugs'.

The body is a fortress and agree with the OP.  All fortresses are eventually overwhelmed given time.  More bugs or whatever but it is a fortress and the stronger it is will increase the odds of living a quality life. 

 

We are all going to die but why not live large as long as possible especially if the process of living a moderately healthy life isn't too intrusive and for many the process bring great satisfaction.

20 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

What is 'good health'? Why do we get sick? 

Good health starts with your gut, a good diet will determine your health, along with exercise. 

 

BUT, if you have inherited poor genes, if you received DNA from your parents that is not good, good health may be difficult. 

 

14 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Ask a question Sir. I'll try to answer it as best I can.

Is the earth flat?

Is RFK jnr your mentor ?

Is your God a man, woman, or lgbt etc?

13 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Sugar 100%.

 

I will add that people drink too little water and don't sleep enough – those two factors are very harmful to the body and cause a plethora of ailments.

Don't disagree with that Sir.

 

As was mentioned in an earlier post; gut health is so important. And this is where a balanced, and well sourced diet, comes in. Food is our future cells. The future 'us'. We are what we eat.

 

On the flip side. Last March's smoke inhalation is next week's flu.

2 hours ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Is the earth flat?

Is RFK jnr your mentor ?

Is your God a man, woman, or lgbt etc?

Wow!! Off to the joke section with you Sir.

 

What about debate? That word too long for you to understand?

 

 

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Don't disagree with that Sir.

 

As was mentioned in an earlier post; gut health is so important. And this is where a balanced, and well sourced diet, comes in. Food is our future cells. The future 'us'. We are what we eat.

 

On the flip side. Last March's smoke inhalation is next week's flu.

You STILL haven't answered my question about hereditary illnesses, and how your eating grass in a field will deal with it.......🥴

54 minutes ago, transam said:

You STILL haven't answered my question about hereditary illnesses, and how your eating grass in a field will deal with it.......🥴

Not as common as we are led to believe.

 

Nature works in mysterious ways Sir.

4 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Not as common as we are led to believe.

 

Nature works in mysterious ways Sir.

Your nuts, chap, you have just shown all you are.......😵‍💫..........🤣

1 hour ago, transam said:

Your nuts, chap, you have just shown all you are.......😵‍💫..........🤣

We do inherit stuff from our parents, as they did from theirs'; down thousands of generations. But changes do take time to kick in. The body needs time to adapt and change.

 

I reckon hereditary illnesses are uncommon; if indeed they are even factual.

 

A true gene disorder - as in the lobster hand people - is extremely rare. And there is evidence to suggest that nature will get these people back to normality in a few generations.

 

34 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

We do inherit stuff from our parents, as they did from theirs'; down thousands of generations. But changes do take time to kick in. The body needs time to adapt and change.

 

I reckon hereditary illnesses are uncommon; if indeed they are even factual.

 

A true gene disorder - as in the lobster hand people - is extremely rare. And there is evidence to suggest that nature will get these people back to normality in a few generations.

 

Another gem from la-la-land.

 

Since the human genome was decoded much work has been done associating diseases with genetic causes.  As usual you're wandering off the reservation and into the weeds with your overly simplistic tropes about toxins.

 

The real info is out there.  Here is what AI says about the strongest association between genetics and disease:

 

While no single disease is definitively "strongest," single-gene disorders like cystic fibrosis and Huntington's disease have the most direct and powerful genetic component, as they are caused by a mutation in a single gene. In contrast, complex diseases like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and autoimmune diseases also have strong genetic influences, but they result from the interaction of multiple genes and environmental factors. 

15 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

We do inherit stuff from our parents, as they did from theirs'; down thousands of generations. But changes do take time to kick in. The body needs time to adapt and change.

 

I reckon hereditary illnesses are uncommon; if indeed they are even factual.

 

A true gene disorder - as in the lobster hand people - is extremely rare. And there is evidence to suggest that nature will get these people back to normality in a few generations.

 

🤣..............Says the bloke with no credeonals for anything, spending the day spouting nonsense on a Thai based farang forum that is not read by most of the planet.......🤣

Now let's turn to the "GENES" we are born with, you know, hereditary stuff...............🤣

 

Oh, watch this, the only member of a family with the problem, I look forward to your explanation, and how medical science, which you don't like, gave the chap some sort of a life.

 

Not for the squeamish....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ayv0lOdXJw

 

1 hour ago, transam said:

🤣..............Says the bloke with no credeonals for anything, spending the day spouting nonsense on a Thai based farang forum that is not read by most of the planet.......🤣

Now let's turn to the "GENES" we are born with, you know, hereditary stuff...............🤣

 

Oh, watch this, the only member of a family with the problem, I look forward to your explanation, and how medical science, which you don't like, gave the chap some sort of a life.

 

Not for the squeamish....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ayv0lOdXJw

 

Steady on there Boss. Don't over do it on the rowing machine.

 

No credentials? What about my reputation? And Trans Buddy, I do publish work in other places other than this 'Thai based farang forum'.

 

I'll watch the (whatever it is) later. Thanks for the link. I'm off to the farm right now as I've just heard there is a little fish trapped in some heavy weed and cannot get back into the main water area. 

 

Have to look after nature. Then it will look after us. Just like our bodies.

20 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Wow!! Off to the joke section with you Sir.

 

What about debate? That word too long for you to understand?

 

 

Jokes? Not at all ! Such questions are legitimate in establishing your capacity to grasp the reality the vast majority of people including myself recognize.

Deflecting questions to avoid identifying lucidity rules out for me any point or purpose in commencing debate on anything at all.

Nor does an attempt at establishing some superior level of language comprehension enhance any likely merit in the intent.

12 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Steady on there Boss. Don't over do it on the rowing machine.

 

No credentials? What about my reputation? And Trans Buddy, I do publish work in other places other than this 'Thai based farang forum'.

 

I'll watch the (whatever it is) later. Thanks for the link. I'm off to the farm right now as I've just heard there is a little fish trapped in some heavy weed and cannot get back into the main water area. 

 

Have to look after nature. Then it will look after us. Just like our bodies.

🤣......Very funny, but now an easy medically related question for you, do you think folk who are crackers, know they are crackers.......?........🤔

 

Before you answer, go look in a mirror and ask yourself that question.......😟

31 minutes ago, transam said:

🤣......Very funny, but now an easy medically related question for you, do you think folk who are crackers, know they are crackers.......?........🤔

 

Before you answer, go look in a mirror and ask yourself that question.......😟

Off to the joke section with you Buddy.

 

Are you trying to ruin my reputation? It won't work Sir. I have truth on my side.

34 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Jokes? Not at all ! Such questions are legitimate in establishing your capacity to grasp the reality the vast majority of people including myself recognize.

Deflecting questions to avoid identifying lucidity rules out for me any point or purpose in commencing debate on anything at all.

Nor does an attempt at establishing some superior level of language comprehension enhance any likely merit in the intent.

Right you are Sir.

 

But what is your question. Could you repeat it please?

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Off to the joke section with you Buddy.

 

Are you trying to ruin my reputation? It won't work Sir. I have truth on my side.

The only thing you have, is a disorder..................🤕

14 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Off to the joke section with you Buddy.

 

Are you trying to ruin my reputation? It won't work Sir. I have truth on my side.

 

Here, perhaps you can ruminate on this.

 

Monaco has the world's highest life expectancy because people are rich and have access to good healthcare. It has one of the highest ratio of doctors per citizen in the world. 

 

Nigeria has one of the world's lowest life expectancy rates because of poverty so many people can not even afford healthcare. But not only that, the doctor in the video says a lot of NIgerians believe they don't need doctors. When they have a health problem, they believe it can be cured by praying and fasting and they don't go to doctors. 

 

 

21 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Here, perhaps you can ruminate on this.

 

Monaco has the world's highest life expectancy because people are rich and have access to good healthcare. It has one of the highest ratio of doctors per citizen in the world. 

 

Nigeria has one of the world's lowest life expectancy rates because of poverty so many people can not even afford healthcare. But not only that, the doctor in the video says a lot of NIgerians believe they don't need doctors. When they have a health problem, they believe it can be cured by praying and fasting and they don't go to doctors. 

 

 

There is this thinking that now (as of 2025) that people are healthier than ever before. TBH, I think they are sicker than ever before.

 

Many of today's ills are man-made.

 

The WHO has lost its way. Obviously being compromised by private doners clip their wings. But people are still dying from lack of clean water to drink.

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

There is this thinking that now (as of 2025) that people are healthier than ever before. TBH, I think they are sicker than ever before.

 

Many of today's ills are man-made.

 

The WHO has lost its way. Obviously being compromised by private doners clip their wings. But people are still dying from lack of clean water to drink.

In my country, at a time when the water was not good, we developed beer, a gallon a day did the trick...

Though after becoming a First World country, via our efforts, the beer is now for pleasure.

 

You still haven't given me a comprehensive answer to hereditary illnesses, you know, in the genes, like cancer, etc....😏

Many species of animals have eaten the same food since they were created, but some die of cancer, perhaps you can enlighten us on that too. 🤗