1 minute ago, candide said:

6 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That doesn't make him a traitor; he successfully fought the second impeachment attempt and was subsequently re-elected President.   Some "traitor", eh?

So how do you call someone who tried to overturn a legitimate election?

I don't call him anything but it sure does not make him a traitor to the US as disputing the results of an election is not illegal.

4 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Could you repost that in intelligible English?

Sorry, was gonna start me diet today but me ma made scouse, so obviously I’m startin’ tomorrow, la.

4 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I don't call him anything but it sure does not make him a traitor to the US as disputing the results of an election is not illegal.

Disputing? Lou mate, are you taking the p**s??🤣

 

Calling a Governor and tells him to "find" some votes?

Getting fake electors.

Pushing the VP to break the law.

Urging a mob to head to the Capitol and fight like hell.

20 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Sorry, was gonna start me diet today but me ma made scouse, so obviously I’m startin’ tomorrow, la.

What?

38 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I don't call him anything but it sure does not make him a traitor to the US as disputing the results of an election is not illegal.

He did not only dispute it, he tried to steal it!

16 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What?

 

Told me bird I’d start eatin’ healthy — now I’m sat in Maccies wi’ a Diet Coke. Progress, la.

18 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

28 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I don't call him anything but it sure does not make him a traitor to the US as disputing the results of an election is not illegal.

Disputing? Lou mate, are you taking the p**s??🤣

 

Calling a Governor and tells him to "find" some votes?

Getting fake electors.

Pushing the VP to break the law.

Urging a mob to head to the Capitol and fight like hell.

Doesn't make him a traitor, particularly when you misquote what he actually said. 

 

You omitted "peacefully and patriotically", he did not say "Head to the Capitol and fight like hell".   He said, "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

 

"Separately, he did say "'If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore" which has been widely accepted as his speaking figuratively".

 

 It's you taking the piss.

 

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Doesn't make him a traitor, particularly when you misquote what he actually said. 

 

You omitted "peacefully and patriotically", he did not say "Head to the Capitol and fight like hell".   He said, "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

 

"Separately, he did say "'If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore" which has been widely accepted as his speaking figuratively".

 

 It's you taking the piss.

 

How convenient that you only commented on one of the points I listed that, each on their own, make him a traitor!👍

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Exactly, who could possibly know, you could never possibly know and there have been no allegations of that happening so why make the suggestion that it happened?

He should be in jail for taking the documents and storing in a non-secure facility just as any normal employee would be arrested and charged.  However, normally if something like this happened, the holders/orignators of the classified would consider that it had been exposed and act accordingly.  One would have to be really dumb to make unsubstantiated allegations against the #one law suit initiator in the US IMHO anyway.  A moot point and you obviously have no clue about the handling of classified material.

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I don't call him anything but it sure does not make him a traitor to the US as disputing the results of an election is not illegal.

Well any citizen that takes the oath to the US Constitution and then encourages an insurrection IMHO is a traitor to the US.  Whether have a clue anyway is IMHO in doubt.

Another glorious moment and outstanding achievement by President Trump to secure peace in the war torn middle east. This POTUS knows no boundaries to success and achievement for all mankind. America, and certainly Israel is lucky to have President Trump in their sphere. Remarkable achievement by what is the greatest POTUS in a lifetime.

 

 

5 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

More fool you, then.

 

He is not a convicted sex offender, he is not a traitor but, for the time being, he has a pathetic and inconsequential felony on his record.

And the fact he defrauded his own charity and now he, and his family are banned from running a charity. Like, forever. A charity. For kids and veterans. 
Helluva guy. 

1 hour ago, armagetiton said:

Another glorious moment and outstanding achievement by President Trump to secure peace in the war torn middle east. This POTUS knows no boundaries to success and achievement for all mankind. America, and certainly Israel is lucky to have President Trump in their sphere. Remarkable achievement by what is the greatest POTUS in a lifetime.

 

 

Oh get a room. 

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

6 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

 

He is not a convicted sex offender, he is not a traitor but, for the time being, he has a pathetic and inconsequential felony on his record.

And the fact he defrauded his own charity and now he, and his family are banned from running a charity. Like, forever. A charity. For kids and veterans. 
Helluva guy. 

But not a traitor, which was the point I was making.

 

"...he, and his family are banned from running a charity. Like, forever".

Nonsense, neither he, nor his family are "banned from running charities".  Millions of dollars was distributed to many charities, veteran's included, before the foundation was wound down, so quite a guy.

On 10/12/2025 at 6:51 AM, Lucky Bones said:

Spidey, I find it interesting that you are continually so anti (insert name), USA President or whoever.

If I understand correctly, you have been based in Bkk for a while?

Why are you still so angry with the country you have left behind?

Have you not moved on?🙃🙃

 

I'm not angry with America, I'm just extremely disappointed in the direction that it's taking. There is a big difference and it is my native country and I still have an active business there, so it's not like I don't have interests there. 

11 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

As you said, there is no evidence of his ever saying that, only third party hearsay which does not get less false by reposting it time after time.  No one has ever produced evidence of the "suckers and losers" assertion.  Pointing out accuracy over unsubstantiated hearsay is not being  "Mr Pedant", Mr Liar.  The suckers and losers are actually the likes of you and your ilk who continually promulgate that false narrative.  

Knowing the incredibly sad and nasty nature of the man, and knowing how little respect he has for the military, and how deeply the military disrespects him, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he had said that. I would expect something like that coming out of the mouth of the creep. Never forget what he said about John McCain, a true American Hero. 

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Knowing the incredibly sad and nasty nature of the man, and knowing how little respect he has for the military, and how deeply the military disrespects him, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he had said that. I would expect something like that coming out of the mouth of the creep. Never forget what he said about John McCain, a true American Hero. 

Liverpool lou - suggest you google Trump calling US soldiers losers et al and you will see a multitude of witnesses quoting him!

22 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I'm not angry with America, I'm just extremely disappointed in the direction that it's taking. There is a big difference and it is my native country and I still have an active business there, so it's not like I don't have interests there. 

Fair call Spidey. Your response is appreciated. 🙃🙃

12 hours ago, Presnock said:

Liverpool lou - suggest you google Trump calling US soldiers losers et al and you will see a multitude of witnesses quoting him!

Not really. 

12 hours ago, TedG said:

Not really. 

not really only if one cannot read English language!

11 hours ago, Presnock said:

not really only if one cannot read English language!

Please list the multitude of people who claimed it happen. 

On 10/14/2025 at 8:50 AM, Presnock said:

Liverpool lou - suggest you google Trump calling US soldiers losers et al and you will see a multitude of witnesses quoting him!

One disgruntled general that Trump fired claimed Trump said it, the other 35 people at the event say he did not, so the left just regurgitates the lie over and over pretending it's a fact. 

 

That you can find a multitude of leftists telling the same lie means nothing. 

 

How could "a multitude of witnesses" have even heard it? Too funny. 

 

And we are supposed to believe this is something Trump said to a general. 

24 minutes ago, TedG said:

Please list the multitude of people who claimed it happen. 

It's the same people that are still telling the "good people on both sides" lie.  

10 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

One disgruntled general that Trump fired claimed Trump said it, the other 35 people at the event say he did not, so the left just regurgitates the lie over and over pretending it's a fact. 

 

That you can find a multitude of leftists telling the same lie means nothing. 

 

How could "a multitude of witnesses" have even heard it? Too funny. 

 

And we are supposed to believe this is something Trump said to a general. 

I also recall him claiming that POW's were examples of losers  especially was talking about John Mccain.

7 minutes ago, Presnock said:

I also recall him claiming that POW's were examples of losers  especially was talking about John Mccain.

What he said about McCaine was disgraceful. 

 

This is what he actually said: “He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

 

So why the need to continue telling the suckers and losers lie? 

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What he said about McCaine was disgraceful. 

 

This is what he actually said: “He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

 

So why the need to continue telling the suckers and losers lie? 

He did say that to general Kelley WHO LOST HIS SON k.i.a. HE did insult Senator McCain who’s grandpa was the first commander of the catcus Air Force (squadron nick name) during the Guadalcanal campaign who went on to command a carrier task force during ww2 Senator McCain who’s dad was a submarine commander during ww2 to jhon McCain who was a carrier qualified pilot POW getting his ass kicked daily FOR YEARS in the Hanoi Hilton…..as your deity was riding daddy’s limo to the disco a nursing those pesky bone spurs…..HE DID SAY those things …it’s who he is it’s a sickness within his soul that’s one of the reasons so many are against that man.enlighten yourself.

19 minutes ago, Tug said:

He did say that to general Kelley WHO LOST HIS SON k.i.a.

This is a lie, and there is no evidence that is anything but a lie. 

19 minutes ago, Tug said:

 

HE did insult Senator McCain who’s grandpa was the first commander of the catcus Air Force (squadron nick name) during the Guadalcanal campaign who went on to command a carrier task force during ww2 Senator McCain who’s dad was a submarine commander during ww2 to jhon McCain who was a carrier qualified pilot POW getting his ass kicked daily FOR YEARS in the Hanoi Hilton…..as your deity was riding daddy’s limo to the disco a nursing those pesky bone spurs…..HE DID SAY those things …it’s who he is it’s a sickness within his soul that’s one of the reasons so many are against that man.enlighten yourself.

And McCain (RIP) was a hero, but it was McCain that got up from his deathbed to flush American healthcare down the toilet for no other reason than to spite Trump, 

Just now, Yellowtail said:

This is a lie, and there is no evidence that is anything but a lie. 

And McCain (RIP) was a hero, but it was McCain that got up from his deathbed to flush American healthcare down the toilet for no other reason than to spite Trump, 

You are mistaken McCain said he voted against it because there was no plan for a replacement…..and trump did say that to Kelley a man who lost his son that is sick in a really really deep way.

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What he said about McCaine was disgraceful. 

 

This is what he actually said: “He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

 

So why the need to continue telling the suckers and losers lie? 

 

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What he said about McCaine was disgraceful. 

 

This is what he actually said: “He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

 

So why the need to continue telling the suckers and losers lie? 

There have been several stories about his comments and yeah the publishers IMHO would not have written the comments unless there was irefutable evidence and those making the statements also didn't want their names published as DJT is well known for suing people even when he has no standing.  I personnally believe he made those comments IMHO but whether you believe them or any of the lies that he tells, that is your choice.  

10 minutes ago, Tug said:

You are mistaken McCain said he voted against it because there was no plan for a replacement…..and trump did say that to Kelley a man who lost his son that is sick in a really really deep way.

Just like the Repubicans have fought against Obama care but even after all these years, where is the Republican Health Plan?  now they have written the death knell for wiping out health care for over 10 million people in the Big beautiful bill!