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There has been a lot of arguing back and forward about the pro and con about the use of Cannabis.

A lot of people (still) are convinced it is the Devils weed and all users are dope heads and good for nothing.

Just for the sake of argument,how can you know it is bad to use?

Would you try it just once so you know what you are talking about?

Some people say you should try everything once so you know,not really sure about that.

Opinions please?

 

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I did try it once and experienced paranoia. Maybe it was a bad batch, etc ...

 

Trying it once, unless you have a really bad experience like I did, is not the main issue.

 

The main issues are:

- Will it make you addicted where you are smoking it practically every day? And if so, will it make you less productive? If you are retired, maybe you don't need to be productive. 

 

- Also, there were claims it may cause lung problems like smoking cigarettes. And if true, it would only be due to prolonged use. 

 

- Apart from that, it appears to be most dangerous for pre-teens and may lead to psychotic episodes if smoked too young. 

 

Even Andrew Huberman, who did a long video about potential harms of cannabis, admits that it has therapeutic benefits. 

 

 

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Had a rather frightening episode years ago in The Hague.

 

Some really strong weed and  lost the use of both arms for about 5 mins......totally paralysed......very awkward as I was stood at a urinal at the time........fortunately I was also very drunk so didn't even panic.

I've tried it several times, student in the UK, when working in Swaziland & Namibia, and on a weekend in Amsterdam. I had various reactions, some pleasant some not, Swaziland very pleasant, Amsterdam rather unpleasant. It's the unpredictability I don't like, so I avoid it; I don't much like the smell either, it all smells a lot stronger than I recall.

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Routinely smoked it for 20 years. But the thc levels back then were not as high as they are now so on itś own was usually just a pleasant buzz . Combined with alcohol the combo did increase the effect of both although smoking decreased the appeal of excess alcohol. 

Eventually the buzz failed to eventuate and instead it was a very effective as a sleep aid!  

But I have never had a problem sleeping at any time anyway, then or now.

Lasting negative was the permanent loss of memory of insignificant events. Not as gaps but in minor detail.

Only once had a sort of "attack"of any kind but I think was due to smoking some stronger than usual while I had a low blood sugar level. Like a panic attack but somehow instinctively knew to eat something sweet  which I did and it instantly subsided. 

I had a responsible job requiring high levels of initiative and inventiveness which I excelled at so I can't agree with those who claim it dulls the mind in that sense.

I can agree that it is wise for studentś to avoid purely from the memory aspect because learning new information often requires even small details to retain that information in total context.

From a physical health perspective no doubt eating rather than inhaling would  obviously be best. Hash cookies were always a favourite.

Addiction vs habit forming is an endless debate even now. For myself there was no problem in abandoning it because it lost its appeal like chewing gum loses flavour.

It took 30 years more to quit cigarettes !

 

 

 

 

To me personally, "NO", each to his own!! I believe it is a "GATEWAY DRUG" that leads to other problems. 

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46 minutes ago, Dan747 said:

To me personally, "NO", each to his own!! I believe it is a "GATEWAY DRUG" that leads to other problems. 

ok, i can appreciate how you feel but why do you say it is a gateway drug?

I have never wanted to try any other drugs because this is working really well for me.

I only take it as an edible to help me sleep,before i used Cannabis i had to resort to sleeping pills but i think this is much better!

Do you drink alcohol? Could that be seen as a gateway drug also?

There is use and there is abuse with all kinds of drugs for sure.

Are you against Cannabis just for that reason?

Not saying you should try it but out of all the drugs out there Cannabis must be least damaging .

 

 

Bill Maher is a big pothead. Yet he's very successful, smart and super sharp. So weed can't be all that bad. 

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Weed is legal where I live.  When it was legalized there was gnashing of teeth and alarms that it would lead to higher highway deaths and more lost teens on drugs.  Neither has happened really.

 

I do partake.  Helps deal with pain and I like it.  But if I was young and worked for a living or had children still in school I would advise against it.  I am not in denial it reduces my motivation levels and I think lowers IQ a bit.  I took a gunnie last night to deal with a back issue and I am thinking and typing a bit slower than usual.

 

For an old retiree like myself who doesn't need motivation or IQ I see no big issue with it.  No more harmful than drinking certainly.  As to Bill Maher perhaps his IQ is high enough it doesn't matter if he loses a few points and maybe it helps him reduce over-achievement demands from his personality.

 

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3 hours ago, Dan747 said:

To me personally, "NO", each to his own!! I believe it is a "GATEWAY DRUG" that leads to other problems. 

LOL Dan I sterted on Acid & worked my way down to alcohol  & weed.

 

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For someone trying cannabis for the first time, starting with a 5 mg THC edible could prove to be the most sensible way to go. The reason is that smoking or vaping cannabis delivers THC straight to your brain very quickly, which can be intense or even overwhelming for someone who isn’t used to the psychoactive effects. Cannabis today is also 3X stronger on average than it was 30 or 40 years ago, so the effects of even just one or two puffs can more easily catch new users off guard.

 

People who are sensitive to THC or prone to side effects like dizziness, paranoia, or nausea are more likely to experience those symptoms through smoking or vaping. Edibles, on the other hand, tend to come on more slowly and feel more physically relaxing than mentally intense. If you do experience side effects from an edible, it’s usually milder (assuming you didn't take too strong of a dose to begin with), maybe some dizziness, but rarely the paranoia that sometimes comes with smoking. In that case, you can usually just lie down, relax, and let it wear off as you rest for a few hours if you find the feeling is a bit too intense.

 

One thing to keep in mind about any edibles you buy in Thailand is that they aren’t regulated and are technically illegal, so it’s hard to know exactly how much THC you’re getting. In contrast, edibles sold in the United States go through regulation, which helps ensure more accurate labeling. Most edibles there contain around 10 mg of THC per piece, so if you buy an edible cannabis chocolate bar, you can simply take half a square to get about 5 mg for your first experience. That’s usually a good starting point to get a feel for how THC affects you without overdoing it. 

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2 hours ago, Beardog said:

LOL Dan I sterted on Acid & worked my way down to alcohol  & weed.

 

 

Ahhh those were the days.  Orange sunshine and Pink Floyd on their "Dark side of the moon" tour.  

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8 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

 

Ahhh those were the days.  Orange sunshine and Pink Floyd on their "Dark side of the moon" tour.  

Window pane & microdots for me ... late bloomer :cheesy:

 

Zoom Zoom

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14 hours ago, Dan747 said:

To me personally, "NO", each to his own!! I believe it is a "GATEWAY DRUG" that leads to other problems. 

Alcohol was my 'gateway drug', and same with everyone I know.  Ruined many more lives than any other drugs I know.  Along with killing themselves and other people when being stupid while drunk.  

 

I don't know of anyone that killed someone while on any other drug, just themselves.

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On 10/15/2025 at 5:40 PM, Dan747 said:

To me personally, "NO", each to his own!! I believe it is a "GATEWAY DRUG" that leads to other problems. 

 

  The 1950s called....they want their slogan back.

The first drug I ever took was "junior disprin" a weak form of soluble aspirin designed for children and administered by my mother when I had toothache .   that was my gateway to drugs .lol   some years later I started on amphetamine  cannabis came later I still do not consider it a "drug"

On 10/15/2025 at 11:49 AM, jvs said:

There has been a lot of arguing back and forward about the pro and con about the use of Cannabis.

A lot of people (still) are convinced it is the Devils weed and all users are dope heads and good for nothing.

Just for the sake of argument,how can you know it is bad to use?

Would you try it just once so you know what you are talking about?

Some people say you should try everything once so you know,not really sure about that.

Opinions please?

 

No, never

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On 10/15/2025 at 5:40 PM, Dan747 said:

To me personally, "NO", each to his own!! I believe it is a "GATEWAY DRUG" that leads to other problems. 

 

Yes , a bit like wine. You start of with a glass to go with your meal and before you know it you are shooting up smack with a dirty needle.

Just now, trucking said:

 

Yes , a bit like wine. You start of with a glass to go with your meal and before you know it you are shooting up smack with a dirty needle.

 

 

Yep....been there, done that many a time......bloody wine.

On 10/15/2025 at 5:40 PM, Dan747 said:

To me personally, "NO", each to his own!! I believe it is a "GATEWAY DRUG" that leads to other problems. 

 

Yes it is. Led me strait to Alcoholism.

If only I had just stuck with the weed.

Oh what a life I could have had.

Like with booze, some can handle it and others go nuts on it... down to the individual.

On 10/15/2025 at 3:55 PM, Will B Good said:

Had a rather frightening episode years ago in The Hague.

 

Some really strong weed and  lost the use of both arms for about 5 mins......totally paralysed......very awkward as I was stood at a urinal at the time........fortunately I was also very drunk so didn't even panic.

 

Ah, that was you was it? Just 'hanging out' were we?

On 10/15/2025 at 7:58 PM, jvs said:

ok, i can appreciate how you feel but why do you say it is a gateway drug?

I have never wanted to try any other drugs because this is working really well for me.

I only take it as an edible to help me sleep,before i used Cannabis i had to resort to sleeping pills but i think this is much better!

Do you drink alcohol? Could that be seen as a gateway drug also?

There is use and there is abuse with all kinds of drugs for sure.

Are you against Cannabis just for that reason?

Not saying you should try it but out of all the drugs out there Cannabis must be least damaging .

 

 

I broadly agree that you, like myself, never felt the urge to indulge in much of anything else.

 

However, neither you nor I feel the need for further mental escapology and the need to open the gate. When I started my first Thai rodeo, I was part of a mostly happy band where beer was the primary escape route, with maybe 20% of the others doing weed. I tried it a couple of times and had generally uncomfortable experiences so stuck with beer. However, there were a couple or three from our gang who chose to "chase the dragon" which almost cost one of them his life. Twice.

 

Nowadays with methamphetamines and fentanyl and the possibility of weed being 'spiked' with other pharmaceuticals in this unregulated market, I wouldn't be tempted at all.

On 10/16/2025 at 9:23 AM, KhunLA said:

Window pane & microdots for me ... late bloomer :cheesy:

 

Zoom Zoom

 

Buying dots from the hippy looking student guy outside the gents at the Star and Garter pub on Crown Street before crossing Union Street to catch King Crimson at Aberdeen music hall where an inordinate fear of balconies coalesced...

On 10/15/2025 at 5:40 PM, Dan747 said:

To me personally, "NO", each to his own!! I believe it is a "GATEWAY DRUG" that leads to other problems. 

You could also say that about Twinkies.

On 10/15/2025 at 3:50 AM, save the frogs said:

I did try it once and experienced paranoia. Maybe it was a bad batch, etc ...

 

 

This was probably due to the type of terpene that was in the flower you smoked. 

On 10/15/2025 at 11:56 PM, jimmybcool said:

 

Ahhh those were the days.  Orange sunshine and Pink Floyd on their "Dark side of the moon" tour.  

I remember driving around Florida and listening to The Johnny Van Zant Band. Also sitting in my friend's car while he went into another friend's house and watching a patch of ice slowly move down the sidewalk. 

On 10/17/2025 at 7:42 PM, Bday Prang said:

The first drug I ever took was "junior disprin" a weak form of soluble aspirin designed for children and administered by my mother when I had toothache .   that was my gateway to drugs .lol   some years later I started on amphetamine  cannabis came later I still do not consider it a "drug"

Mine was eating a whole bottle of St. Joseph's Aspirin  (the orange flavored ones) while my mom was sleeping and brother was watching TV, then the trip in an ambulance to the hospital to pump my stomach, at 2 years old. Then it was weed, and a hit and a half of mescaline my friend stuck in a Twinkie without telling me. After that a few other things, no Heroin, and staying away for the most part because of being a gym rat, besides good wine and a few hits shared with my daughter when I'm back home.

45 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

However, there were a couple or three from our gang who chose to "chase the dragon" which almost cost one of them his life. Twice.

 

Can you elaborate on this if you are willing to.

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

 

Buying dots from the hippy looking student guy outside the gents at the Star and Garter pub on Crown Street before crossing Union Street to catch King Crimson at Aberdeen music hall where an inordinate fear of balconies coalesced...

 

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