11 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

A lot of information to unpack from this video.

-thousands of IDF soldiers with PTSD flying  into Thailand to stay at a so-called “healing space” named “David’s circle”

 

-many Israelis were killed by the “Hannibal Directive” by the IDF to prevent Hamas taking hostages 

 

-Soldiers Save Lives is raising money for traumatized IDF soldiers and for developing weapons, namely drones and promotes pro- Israel content on social media 

 

- Thais and other foreigners are saying the whole vibe of Pai has changed in a negative way as a result

 

-they are cheering and clapping killed Palestinians on Thai beaches.

 

-pro Israeli posters are being posted on public electricity poles and in public areas

 

- many are working illegally and setting up companies illegally 

 

-signs are going up saying No Israelis in Thai businesses. Israelis are then flooding the restaurants with bad social media reviews and calling for boycotts. Israelis are telling Thais that Israeli money built Thailand

 

-even some Israelis are complaining about this behavior 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That looks like an objecrive news site. 

10 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

They killed about 5% of the Gazan population and maimed about another 10%.

Most homes, businesses and cars have been destroyed though as long with schools, hospitals, nursing homes the power and water supply

This is what happens when the people of Palestine started a war on October 7, 2023. 

21 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You're wrong.

 

The population of Pai district, Thailand was 29,526 in 2005. 

 

The district and the town are 2 different areas. Supposedly the town has around 3,000 people.

There is also a relatively large Muslim population in Pai (town) who are Chinese descent.

 

It is worth noting that the Israeli tourists have had rather a reputation for many years. Anyone involved in the tourist industry will have a number of stories to tell!

 

Just now, cmsally said:

 

The district and the town are 2 different areas. Supposedly the town has around 3,000 people.

There is also a relatively large Muslim population in Pai (town) who are Chinese descent.

 

It is worth noting that the Israeli tourists have had rather a reputation for many years. Anyone involved in the tourist industry will have a number of stories to tell!

 

 

Well, I would have loved to visit Pai, and see for myself, but sadly now that I see drug-crazed IDF soldiers holding sex parties there I'm not so sure it's my kind of vibe anymore.

 

Not to mention giant Jewish festivals, I mean, that would really ruin my whole holiday. I remember when I was in Hua Hin and a giant Indian wedding led to the usual breakfast room being closed off for the Indian guests, it was most vexing. Even if the Indians graciously invited us to attend the wedding and all was well in the end.

4 minutes ago, cmsally said:

 

The district and the town are 2 different areas. Supposedly the town has around 3,000 people.

There is also a relatively large Muslim population in Pai (town) who are Chinese descent.

 

It is worth noting that the Israeli tourists have had rather a reputation for many years. Anyone involved in the tourist industry will have a number of stories to tell!

 

Tell us your stories

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well, I would have loved to visit Pai, and see for myself, but sadly now that I see drug-crazed IDF soldiers holding sex parties there I'm not so sure it's my kind of vibe anymore.

 

 

Very strange. Personally, for me, the mention of sex parties is usually an extra reason to visit a place, not to avoid it.

12 minutes ago, cmsally said:

It is worth noting that the Israeli tourists have had rather a reputation for many years. Anyone involved in the tourist industry will have a number of stories to tell!

And probably none of those stories good or pleasant.

6 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

Very strange. Personally, for me, the mention of sex parties is usually an extra reason to visit a place, not to avoid it.

They are mostly male on male sort of parties.

35 minutes ago, TedG said:

This is what happens when the people of Palestine started a war on October 7, 2023. 

They were not the People of Palestine.

They were a few hundred terrorists who should have been apprehended and jailed or executed.

I have watched the videos of that day and I didn’t see any women and children attacking the Israelis.

But they make up the majority of Palestinian casualties.

 

When someone commits murder in civilized countries the police don’t kill entire families with nothing to do with the murder.

They punish the murderer.

8 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

They were not the People of Palestine.

They were a few hundred terrorists who should have been apprehended and jailed or executed.

I have watched the videos of that day and I didn’t see any women and children attacking the Israelis.

But they make up the majority of Palestinian casualties.

 

When someone commits murder in civilized countries the police don’t kill entire families with nothing to do with the murder.

They punish the murderer.

Hamas is holding the civilian population of Gaza hostage. Unfortunately, during hostage rescue operations, it's not uncommon for the hostages to die along with the hostage-takers

8 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

Hamas is holding the civilian population of Gaza hostage. Unfortunately, during hostage rescue operations, it's not uncommon for the hostages to die along with the hostage-takers

.. and if a few hundred Hamas fighters are holding thousands of Gaza civilians hostage, you would think that these civilians, having huge weight of numbers, would turn on their kidnappers and 'eliminate' them.  But they don't do that do they....?  I wonder why.

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

You know it is more, you are just trolling.

 

   I was asking a question .

How many is it ?

Is your 25 year old sign from Koh Samui still valid or was it removed ?

39 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

They were not the People of Palestine.

They were a few hundred terrorists who should have been apprehended and jailed or executed.

I have watched the videos of that day and I didn’t see any women and children attacking the Israelis.

But they make up the majority of Palestinian casualties.

 

When someone commits murder in civilized countries the police don’t kill entire families with nothing to do with the murder.

They punish the murderer.

They voted for Hamas and supported the Oct 7th attack. 

9 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well, by sheer numbers you'd have to agree the Russians are an even bigger problem than the Israelis. For now at least.

Only on phuket not elsewhere

13 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Where I live several Israeli families have moved in the past few months.  They all know each other and home school their kids.  They do not appear to work here they are always at their residences. They are ok as neighbors say Hello and smile,  except they do not seem to discipline their kids very well.

Not to digress too far from the subject at hand, but how many parents do you know that do discipline their kids very well, and how many parents do you know are still familiar with the "art of parenting"? 

Another quality israeli, it gives a good impression how it is with virtually all down south.

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17YutJwEqk/?mibextid=wwXIfr

This arises the risk in having people from war torn countries, with potential PTSD or other more harmful issues that can be a threat to their host nation. This could call to rethink the rules and clauses of asylum mainly in the woke trend western and mainly European nations....

9 hours ago, TedG said:

That looks like an objecrive news site. 

 

Middle East Eye has been described as an English-language front for the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.

 

Delving into the details of MEE, however, show that it acts far less as a traditional journalistic outlet and far more as an English-language front for Qatari-supported groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. British corporate records, for example, show that Jamal Awn Jamal Bessasso, a former official for both Al Jazeera in Qatar and the Hamas-affiliated al-Quds TV in Lebanon, owns and operates MEE through M.E.E. Ltd. 

Qatar’s Other Covert Media Arm

https://www.aei.org/foreign-and-defense-policy/middle-east/qatars-other-covert-media-arm/

Just now, Evil Penevil said:

 

Middle East Eye has been described as an English-language front for the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.

 

Delving into the details of MEE, however, show that it acts far less as a traditional journalistic outlet and far more as an English-language front for Qatari-supported groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. British corporate records, for example, show that Jamal Awn Jamal Bessasso, a former official for both Al Jazeera in Qatar and the Hamas-affiliated al-Quds TV in Lebanon, owns and operates MEE through M.E.E. Ltd. 

Qatar’s Other Covert Media Arm

https://www.aei.org/foreign-and-defense-policy/middle-east/qatars-other-covert-media-arm/

I agree. 

20 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

While I am sure the Palestinians will be happy that Israel are pulling out Thai businesses owners will be busy putting up signs.

 

I think the best way to control the situation might be to be very hard on them and deport the troublemakers quickly so they know where they stand.

 

Catch and deport. The very non-confrontational and reactive Thai way that's doomed to fail. Just look at how well it has worke/is working with the dodgy Chinese.

 

Take Israel off the 60-day visa-exempt entry bandwagon. That's being proactive and would shut off the flood. Unfortunately, the authorities will see that as too confrontational so they'll carry in with catch and release.

24 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Middle East Eye has been described as an English-language front for the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.

 

Delving into the details of MEE, however, show that it acts far less as a traditional journalistic outlet and far more as an English-language front for Qatari-supported groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. British corporate records, for example, show that Jamal Awn Jamal Bessasso, a former official for both Al Jazeera in Qatar and the Hamas-affiliated al-Quds TV in Lebanon, owns and operates MEE through M.E.E. Ltd. 

Qatar’s Other Covert Media Arm

https://www.aei.org/foreign-and-defense-policy/middle-east/qatars-other-covert-media-arm/

 

In other words, it is offering an alternative view and opinion, same as Fox, Time, CNN, BBC, RT, Al Jazeera, Newsweek, Nikkei, Xinhua, SCMP, The Economist, etc., etc. Someone's free speech is another man's demagoguery.

 

People should use the brain and intellect that they're born to examine the vast panoply of fact, fiction, lies and opinion and make their own, free-formed, and hopefully unbiased opinions.

9 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

They are mostly male on male sort of parties.

 

Oh goody. I like a good round of 'Pin the Tail on the Donkey"

21 hours ago, Cameroni said:

The problem is most likely the usual, Thai politicians know that if they took resolute action against Chabad houses and Israelis this would have massive economic effects, as the Israel lobby would then work to curtail foreign investment into Thailand.

If true that would be fair wouldn't?

1 hour ago, Peter Crow said:

If true that would be fair wouldn't?

 

It would be perfectly understandable, given that Thailand would be taking action against criminals and undesirables, I wouldn't necessarily say it's fair, as the economic measures would affect ordinary Thai people, but it certainly would be understandable.

8 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Only on phuket not elsewhere

 

Not so, in Pattaya too.

10 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Not to digress too far from the subject at hand, but how many parents do you know that do discipline their kids very well, and how many parents do you know are still familiar with the "art of parenting"? 

My neighborhood is multi national.  In a three block radius there are families with children from Korea, Russia, England, Sweden, Australia, Khakastan, China, United States, Japan and of course many Thai children.  All pretty much well behaved. Not to sound racist, but the Israeli children are loud, screaming and out of control. No parental control. I’m waiting for one of the kids to be hit by a car or truck because they run amok without any regard to anything or anyone around them.  It’s very sad for the kids, in my opinion.  

2 minutes ago, LivingNThailand said:

My neighborhood is multi national.  In a three block radius there are families with children from Korea, Russia, England, Sweden, Australia, Khakastan, China, United States, Japan and of course many Thai children.  All pretty much well behaved. Not to sound racist, but the Israeli children are loud, screaming and out of control. No parental control. I’m waiting for one of the kids to be hit by a car or truck because they run amok without any regard to anything or anyone around them.  It’s very sad for the kids, in my opinion.  

 

Wow... They're behaving just like the Ayrab kids on the Qatar flights to Manchester. Running amok, up and down the aisles, shouting and screaming while their fat minders graze.

16 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well, I would have loved to visit Pai, and see for myself, but sadly now that I see drug-crazed IDF soldiers holding sex parties there I'm not so sure it's my kind of vibe anymore.

 

Not to mention giant Jewish festivals, I mean, that would really ruin my whole holiday. I remember when I was in Hua Hin and a giant Indian wedding led to the usual breakfast room being closed off for the Indian guests, it was most vexing. Even if the Indians graciously invited us to attend the wedding and all was well in the end.

I've been 3 times this year so far, will be going back beginning of December, not seen any problem with young Israelis, spoke to quite a few of them. 

3 minutes ago, roo860 said:

I've been 3 times this year so far, will be going back beginning of December, not seen any problem with young Israelis, spoke to quite a few of them. 

 

Well that's a  relief. Did you go inside the Chabad House?

I passed through Pai many years ago for a lunch break. It did look pretty. All this fear mongering talk about how those inscrutable Israelis are taking over and destroying the places makes me feel like going an extended visit!